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akv
10-08-2011, 19:47
So it goes...What happens if they deport the first applicant and his/her family?
Governor Brown Signs Second Half of California Dream Act

Published October 08, 2011 | Associated Press

Illegal immigrants can now apply for state-funded scholarships and aid at state universities after Gov. Jerry Brown announced Saturday that he has signed the second half of a legislative package focused on such students.

AB131 by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, is the second half of the California Dream Act. Brown signed the first half of the package in July, which approved private scholarships and loans for students who are illegal immigrants.

Under current law, illegal immigrant students who have graduated from a California high school and can prove they're on the path to legalize their immigration status can pay resident tuition rates. The bill would allow these students to apply for state aid.

The contentious second half of the package requires that immigrant students meet the same requirements as all other students applying for financial aid at state universities but specifies that they only qualify for financial aid after all the other legal residents have applied.

"The signing of now both parts of the California Dream Act will send a message across the country that California is prepared to lead the country with a positive and productive vision for how we approach challenging issues related to immigration," Cedillo said.

The bills are different from the federal Dream Act, which includes a path to citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

Brown says the bill expands educational opportunities for all qualified students.

"Going to college is a dream that promises intellectual excitement and creative thinking," Brown said. "The Dream Act benefits us all by giving top students a chance to improve their lives and the lives of all of us."

Critics of the bills say it undermines immigration laws and encourages illegal immigration by granting access to state resources reserved for legal residents. Many Republican lawmakers say legal students have had their grants cut in light of recent budget cuts to higher education.

Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, said the bill's passage will the biggest mistake the Democratic Party makes.

"The polling indicates that 80 to 90 percent of Californians are against this, and it crosses party lines," Donnelly said. He said he hopes to get a ballot initiative overturning the law started as soon as the bill is officially included in state statutes.

"It is absolutely, fundamentally wrong and unfair and it is an insult to people who have worked and played by the rules, including those who have come to this country legally," he said.

Ginny Rapini, coordinator for the NorCal Tea Party Patriots, said there should be consequences for illegal immigrants and giving them an education funded by California taxpayers isn't fair to the legal residents who can't afford to pay for their own tuition.

"What part of illegal do we not get? When people come here illegally they need to come here with the same rules and regulations that other people came here with," Rapini said.

Supporters argue that children whose were brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents shouldn't be punished.

The state Department of Finance estimates that 1 percent of all Cal Grant funds, the state student financial aid program, will be affected by the legislative package when it goes into effect in January 2013. The department says that 2,500 students would qualify for aid under the bill and estimates the costs to equal $14.5 million of a $1.4 billion program.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/08/california-gov-brown-signs-bill-for-illegal-immigrant-student-aid/print#ixzz1aFCzqU1N

PSM
10-08-2011, 20:45
Two weeks from today...we're out of here!

Moonbeam was first elected governor when I moved here and elected governor again as I leave. Bookends. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5V-Y53ad4) :(

Pat

monsterhunter
10-10-2011, 00:23
I can't imagine what the hell this idiot is thinking, unless he is just looking for Hispanic votes. We're in so much trouble already, they want to cut retirement benefits for police and fire, but were gong to throw money at illegal aliens. Son of a bitch!

craigepo
10-10-2011, 07:41
The California government uses public money to buy votes. California is in dire need of a balanced budget amendment.

My hope is that the US government doesn't bail California out when the state files for bankruptcy protection.

Dusty
10-10-2011, 07:46
Two weeks from today...we're out of here!

Moonbeam was first elected governor when I moved here and elected governor again as I leave. Bookends. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5V-Y53ad4) :(

Pat

Congratulations.

greenberetTFS
10-10-2011, 15:17
I can't imagine what the hell this idiot is thinking, unless he is just looking for Hispanic votes. We're in so much trouble already, they want to cut retirement benefits for police and fire, but were going to throw money at illegal aliens. Son of a bitch!

How in the hell did he get elected?.....:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

mark46th
10-10-2011, 16:36
Charles Manson is still alive because this asshole made Rose Bird the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court during his first reign of error...

It is still illegal to get a yob(Spanish for 'Job') in California if you are an illegal alien. If these people get degrees because of government assistance, where are they going to work? California employers can't hire them. Maybe he plans to deport them AFTER they graduate. The cartels need more lawyers and accountants...

mojaveman
10-10-2011, 16:46
I knew we were in for trouble when he was elected.

Ok, come to California illegally, enroll in a University and when you're finished go back to Mexico with an education paid for by the California taxpayers. Anyone want to bet that's going to happen? Are we not offering illegal immigrants an incentive to come here? 80%-90% of the population here are opposed to this? Hell yes!

I've been wanting to leave for some time now but just haven't decided where.

Gimme a hillbilly girl with a low IQ, a beer, a nice rifle and a place in the Ozarks.

Susa
10-10-2011, 16:49
Don't forget that 12 (yes 12) year olds can now get an HPV vaccination without consent from Mommy or Daddy.

Paslode
10-10-2011, 19:41
Add this to the list: California Bans Open Carry of Handguns.

Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday that he had signed the ban into law late Sunday night amid heavy opposition from gun enthusiasts.

AB144 by state Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-Pasadena, makes it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in public or in vehicles, with violators facing up to a year in prison or a potential fine of $1,000 when the law takes effect on Jan 1.


Two of the most moronic statements I have ever heard..........

“Main Street California is not the Old West, and you don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger,” Portantino said.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/california-bans-open-carry-of-handguns/


“By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante,” Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement.

BigJimCalhoun
10-11-2011, 06:04
How soon before illegals are allowed to vote in state contests? I can see them saying, "Oops, we accidently gave ballots with federal contests to the illegals instead of the state only ones."

monsterhunter
10-11-2011, 20:40
How in the hell did he get elected?.....:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

We have a lot of idiots in our state who will vote in anything that they believe ought to make them feel warm and fuzzy inside. Logic has nothing to do with it and history is not considered when votes are cast.

USANick7
10-12-2011, 07:50
Two weeks from today...we're out of here!

Moonbeam was first elected governor when I moved here and elected governor again as I leave. Bookends. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5V-Y53ad4) :(

Pat

I'm trying to convince my family to leave as well...we hailed from Chico originally. CA will be a nice place to settle again in about 20-30 years when the smoke settles...but that is one place that has crossed the line and will have to crash before it self corrects.

USANick7
10-12-2011, 07:53
Charles Manson is still alive because this asshole made Rose Bird the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court during his first reign of error...

My dad was LAPD for 20 years and he was telling me a story about being in a court room when the defense attorney objected based off of some grounds...and the judge looked at him and said "what, in whose court room would that be acceptable?". The attorney gave him the name and the judge replied..."must have been a Brown appointee...overruled" :p

BOfH
10-12-2011, 08:39
Mike Royko put it best:


“If it babbles and its eyeballs are glazed,” he noted in April 1979, “it probably comes from California.”


Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07mckinley.html