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Yep. I thought that he was. I'm sorry. I just seem to be noticing a recurring theme on this forum. It seems to me, that certain individuals, feel it's ok to attack some one else in a message, and be rude, and then expect the other person to just let it slide. As if.....well, as if you think everyone should kiss your ass because your a member of a certain group. While what you have achieved in your lifetime is truly extraordinary and granted few can make the cut....you are still just mortal men. Time and time again I read on this site, some of you referring to not getting upset, and being able to take criticism, while all the while, you the men that us mere mortals are supposed to be looking up to, get emotionally upset when you think that some one is being disrespectful. I see a huge disconnect between the label and that self proclaimed professionalism. I mean it makes one wonder if you walk around town with a big sign that says, "Bow before the awe inspiring awesomeness that is I" You know what I mean? I know 'Read More and post less", I get that. I've read far more than I've posted. I've held my tongue on this as well. For the short time that I've been here, and the many posts that I have read, this is a recurring theme. WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think you take yourselves a little too seriously, and you do not afford the same respect that you would have others give you. The next post will be somebody saying, "Respect is earned not given" and that is wrong as well. You can't earn it. It is given in small amounts until such time as you deem that person not worthy of it. Otherwise we would all be pissing on each others shoes and going to blows.
With that being said. My point of view however irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition. Was that one of you was verbally attacking a mere mortal of a man and when he defended himself, the immortal got butt hurt, and the other immortals started crying foul. Get real. You either want men, that can stand up for themselves, or you want people to suck up, kiss your feet, and move on. You can't have it both ways. If it takes being a man who says what he means, and means what he says, to be a member of your outfit, then except it when a man stands up for himself. If he can't and has to revert to being a suck up....did you really want him anyways? I'm sure someone will come on here and tell me that I am out of line, and tell me I am warned and how many strikes I will have against me. It's ok. I have broad shoulders. I'm not 19 or 20. It takes a lot to impress me these days. If you choose to see this as an attack, or a disrespectful post that is your choice. It's the truth, and the truth will either offend you or it will change you. I wonder will you ban me for speaking my mind and calling it like I see it? Are you professional? Can you take the same criticism that you dish out? It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
ZonieDiver
10-02-2011, 04:30
I will resist the temptation to respond to your post with: "Piss up a rope!"
You think Intel Geek was treated harshly? I had to go back and re-read the string of posts to which you refer. It seemed rather innocuous to me. Obviously, it set you off on your rant that took you to some areas that mystify me.
The first is your reference to QPs thinking of themselves as "immortals"! Few people in this world are more aware of their mortality than the men of SF. While I am blessed to have not seen a single day of combat, I have had friends who were injured, many who were injured severely, and some who died during different aspects of Special Forces TRAINING. I am offended by your remarks in that regard.
You don't mention if you have served in the military. I couldn't check about that in your profile, because you do not have one. Despite all your reading, you seem to have missed the request that you fill out a profile. Perhaps you just decided to ignore it. I'd get on that task PDQ.
We do not walk down the street with a sign proclaiming our awesomeness and the demand that people bow down before us. This site is not "the street"! It is our living room. Brothers-in-arms are having a conversation and have been nice enough to invite interested people from the street to come in and join that conversation, given that they follow our rules, since (as even you are kind enough to notice) it is "our house". If one of those people doesn't like the conversation, or one of the people conversing, or the topics at hand, what that person should do is simply say "Excuse me, I need to leave" - and go.
On final reflection... piss up a rope.
Team Sergeant
10-02-2011, 10:18
OMG, we were rude to someone?
I moved this "discussion" to the general discussions forum. (I almost moved it into the comedy zone.)
If you read the rules there's a few points I'm sure you caught, this is a "Special Forces" forum, not to be confused with a "tactical forum, gun forum, police forum, martial arts forum etc."
Here you are considered a "guest". We're not here to amuse you. (Although many of you guests do that to us...)
This is our house, we speak our minds. Yeah, some of us can be a bit harsh, you would not be wrong in that assumption. Others that believe we can be a bit harsh include the taliban, terrorists, drug cartels, arab dictators, etc. Trust me, we're much harsher on them.
We don't "coddle" individuals and will call an idiot and idiot in a Texas heartbeat. Most of us have a very low tolerance for stupid. If you don't like it go elsewhere. (Might I suggest Dr. Phil (http://www.drphil.com/), he's nice to people, all people.)
First of all.....WTF? You don't specify, other than inferences, who or what you are referring to.
So, at the risk of you getting your feelings hurt, I will say:
"pound sand"
instead of
"pound sand up your a--"
".......Self-defense, reading, writing, playing fetch with my dog, working out, the occassional video game, increasing my knowledge, church, playing guitar, al ot of hobbies..........."
Sigh........
kcphoenix
10-02-2011, 11:45
MadDogG ~ as a guest myself, I strongly disagree with what you are saying and your protrayal of the SF members. From a civilian's point of view, these men are bound by a mindset, purpose and brotherhood. The personal fortitude they must possess within themselves even prior to going into the SF training is a rare quality. To devote their lives to rigors required to become SF in order to protect our country at a level beyond what 99% of the population even knows about says a lot about a person. The mortality they know is much greater than you or I or any other person sitting here in the comforts of our own homes non directly engaging those who want nothing more than to destroy your way of life, cut your head off and send it home to your family. How many times do you leave home knowing many people are going to be trying to kill you, yet you still go? How many of your friends/brothers have you seen body parts blown off of? How many of your friends/brothers have you watched die? Until you can answer with the same response of these men, you need to stand the fuck down when it comes to portraying them as believing they are immortal. [sorry, but this one pisses me off...I've been there when many of the WIA men are medevac'd in and helped them through their recoveries and I've held the hand of some of them as they passed of those who didn't make it, so don't even begin to pretend you know anything about understanding their mortality beliefs]
Their world, SF, does not allow the 'touchy feely' shit of let me give you respect just because, nor should it have to. There is no room for that on the battlefield and they will always maintain the warrior mindset. I truly believe respect is earned, it is never just given. What's with all the bullshit entitlement mentality I see so much of now days? Do you respect everyone you meet upon first meeting them? In the SF world, I imagine that could get you killed. Hell, I'm just a civie and even I don't believe in just giving respect. These men have earned the respect by the level of dedication they have shown.
I for one don't have a problem if I say something or make a post about something and get bitch slapped for it, like I'd say to anyone else, "suck it up buttercup." I'm not going to get my panties in a wad and cry about it. I will read what was said, analyze it and either respectfully disagree or realize their point of view is legit too. Hell, sometime, maybe I can enlighten them on something too one day[:D]
If I don't like the host of a party or want to complain about the decor in their living room, then I simply find one I like better. I'm not going to just hang out like dog balls at the one I don't like. Personally, their living room offers a great view and I like the fresh air that flows through it.
Quite simply put...Nut Up, Cowboy!
QP's, please delete [or bitch slap me] if I've overstepped my bounds. I am certainly NOT speaking for you, just putting another civie's point of view out there.
MadDogG
You know if I posted a response I might hurt someones feelings so I will not.
Screw this ...... This is our House and if you do not like it hit the road.
Follow the rules and life is great just like in our Society. If you walk in to court and do not follow the rules the Judge will hurt your feelings.
If you do not follow Driving rules the Police will hurt your feelings.
If you do not follow orders in the military the Sergeant or officers will hurt your feelings.
Life is full of things that you cause you stress and hurt feelings with what you may perceive as a harsh response. Well Man Up and get over it and follow our rules. Like others said if you do not like it pack up you play things and move on. NO ONE MAKES ANYONE STAY HERE......
SORRY IF I HURT YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE'S FEELINGS WITH MY HARSH RESPONSE.:p
While what you have achieved in your lifetime is truly extraordinary and granted few can make the cut....you are still just mortal men.Mortal men doing truly extraordinary things...
"Sounds like penis envy...."
Just saying...;)
Yep. I thought that he was. I'm sorry. I just seem to be noticing a recurring theme on this forum. It seems to me, that certain individuals, feel it's ok to attack some one else in a message, and be rude, and then expect the other person to just let it slide. As if.....well, as if you think everyone should kiss your ass because your a member of a certain group. While what you have achieved in your lifetime is truly extraordinary and granted few can make the cut....you are still just mortal men. Time and time again I read on this site, some of you referring to not getting upset, and being able to take criticism, while all the while, you the men that us mere mortals are supposed to be looking up to, get emotionally upset when you think that some one is being disrespectful. I see a huge disconnect between the label and that self proclaimed professionalism. I mean it makes one wonder if you walk around town with a big sign that says, "Bow before the awe inspiring awesomeness that is I" You know what I mean? I know 'Read More and post less", I get that. I've read far more than I've posted. I've held my tongue on this as well. For the short time that I've been here, and the many posts that I have read, this is a recurring theme. WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think you take yourselves a little too seriously, and you do not afford the same respect that you would have others give you. The next post will be somebody saying, "Respect is earned not given" and that is wrong as well. You can't earn it. It is given in small amounts until such time as you deem that person not worthy of it. Otherwise we would all be pissing on each others shoes and going to blows.
With that being said. My point of view however irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition. Was that one of you was verbally attacking a mere mortal of a man and when he defended himself, the immortal got butt hurt, and the other immortals started crying foul. Get real. You either want men, that can stand up for themselves, or you want people to suck up, kiss your feet, and move on. You can't have it both ways. If it takes being a man who says what he means, and means what he says, to be a member of your outfit, then except it when a man stands up for himself. If he can't and has to revert to being a suck up....did you really want him anyways? I'm sure someone will come on here and tell me that I am out of line, and tell me I am warned and how many strikes I will have against me. It's ok. I have broad shoulders. I'm not 19 or 20. It takes a lot to impress me these days. If you choose to see this as an attack, or a disrespectful post that is your choice. It's the truth, and the truth will either offend you or it will change you. I wonder will you ban me for speaking my mind and calling it like I see it? Are you professional? Can you take the same criticism that you dish out? It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
Kiss my ass.
blue02hd
10-02-2011, 13:39
I think MaddogG is absolutely right!!! I have always felt intimidated and pressured by many of the QP's who post here, and now I know I am not only not alone but my feelings are justified thanks to the heroic and courageous post of our esteemed guest.
Hell I want to buy this man a beer!!! Problem is I wouldn't recognize him if I struck out to is neck of the woods. So I would like to announce right now that I have a bar tab with his name on it waiting at Charlie Mikes just outside of Bragg if he, or anyone else who feels slighted by the warrior elite who endlessly boast of their feats and care little about those others around them, would like to come claim it.
All you have to do is walk in and announce how fucked up Green Berets are, and that you have the shoulders and skin thick enough to speak your mind! Say it loudly and proudly! I find that the truth spoken loudly from strangers who visit is usually the most liberating!!!
I truly feel as if a new chapter in my life is about to begin!
Eagle5US
10-02-2011, 13:54
If you choose to see this as an attack, or a disrespectful post that is your choice. It's the truth, and the truth will either offend you or it will change you. I wonder will you ban me for speaking my mind and calling it like I see it? Are you professional? Can you take the same criticism that you dish out? It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
What kind of crap is this? You can speak your mind and say whatever you want - but HERE you will be held accountable for what you say.
Your point of view regarding the truth is exactly that - your point of view. The real question is whether or not WE CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Which, I personally don't. You toss out this gauntlet of "are you Professional?... can you take criticism or will I get banned" childish bullshit. As if it is supposed to demonstrate that you should be allowed to run your suck unchecked because holding you responsible will somehow validate your lame attempt at tossing a zinger in there. If your wife asked you if she looked fat in a certain pair of jeans, you would probably say no regardless. We on the other hand say "Yup - but you asked".
You don't like it here? LEAVE. Man, what a concept! Feel free to take your puppy with you.
We police our own quite regularly on this site. People speak their minds in a debate / point - counterpoint method frequently. As long as VALID (i.e. verifiable) points are made or positions are supported, things move along appropriately. Differing opinion or not.
But you should understand your surroundings as a guest in "our house", which you obviously do not. No more than someone walking into Abu Hannifa mosque with a Bible singing Christmas Carols.
You being here is a luxury for you, and now little more than entertainment for us.
Yep. I thought that he was. I'm sorry. I just seem to be noticing a recurring theme on this forum. It seems to me, that certain individuals, feel it's ok to attack some one else in a message, and be rude, and then expect the other person to just let it slide. As if.....well, as if you think everyone should kiss your ass because your a member of a certain group. While what you have achieved in your lifetime is truly extraordinary and granted few can make the cut....you are still just mortal men. Time and time again I read on this site, some of you referring to not getting upset, and being able to take criticism, while all the while, you the men that us mere mortals are supposed to be looking up to, get emotionally upset when you think that some one is being disrespectful. I see a huge disconnect between the label and that self proclaimed professionalism. I mean it makes one wonder if you walk around town with a big sign that says, "Bow before the awe inspiring awesomeness that is I" You know what I mean? I know 'Read More and post less", I get that. I've read far more than I've posted. I've held my tongue on this as well. For the short time that I've been here, and the many posts that I have read, this is a recurring theme. WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think you take yourselves a little too seriously, and you do not afford the same respect that you would have others give you. The next post will be somebody saying, "Respect is earned not given" and that is wrong as well. You can't earn it. It is given in small amounts until such time as you deem that person not worthy of it. Otherwise we would all be pissing on each others shoes and going to blows.
With that being said. My point of view however irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition. Was that one of you was verbally attacking a mere mortal of a man and when he defended himself, the immortal got butt hurt, and the other immortals started crying foul. Get real. You either want men, that can stand up for themselves, or you want people to suck up, kiss your feet, and move on. You can't have it both ways. If it takes being a man who says what he means, and means what he says, to be a member of your outfit, then except it when a man stands up for himself. If he can't and has to revert to being a suck up....did you really want him anyways? I'm sure someone will come on here and tell me that I am out of line, and tell me I am warned and how many strikes I will have against me. It's ok. I have broad shoulders. I'm not 19 or 20. It takes a lot to impress me these days. If you choose to see this as an attack, or a disrespectful post that is your choice. It's the truth, and the truth will either offend you or it will change you. I wonder will you ban me for speaking my mind and calling it like I see it? Are you professional? Can you take the same criticism that you dish out? It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
OH.....Piss Up a Rope....stomp....stomp...stomp
No offense MSG, but I find your rant reeks of whining, a bit lispy and has a Nellie twang to it.
Big difference between his 1st and 8th posts. Seems to have been written by two different people.
Wonder if his ex hacked his account or if that's the way he really thinks?
MTN Medic
10-02-2011, 14:12
Mortal men doing truly extraordinary things...
"Sounds like penis envy...."
Just saying...;)
Ding ding ding!
There are 1000's of other forums, I suggest you try one. You think we are harsh to outsiders, you should see how harsh we are to each other. If you really want to see harsh, you should see how hard we are on ourselves.
I don't like to be the asshole that says, "I'm taking my ball and going home," but it is our ball...
I think I have an antidote for MadDogG's problem(s)..
http://www.fullstoppain.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50
:D
It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
Sure, and yes you can, but you will have to state your qualification, or bona fides, that establish beyond a reasonable doubt that you have BTDT.
In addition, it will be necessary that you establish your SME, so that the board can confirm your expertise. Otherwise, you are just more tissue paper clogging the lines, in a word mastabatory.
this guy should be on a Team for awhile and see how much slack everyone gets....might re eval his experience....
let's see..got shot in the shoulder and a buddy punched me in the shoulder at the field hospital to see 'if I was faking'......
Once asked a legless SF friend if he was up 'for a foot race'.....etc,etc,etc......
Barbarian
10-02-2011, 15:47
Free entertainment, right here.
:munchin :munchin :munchin
What post brought this on, just wondering?
Blue
What post brought this on, just wondering?
Blue
PMS
PMS
Yep, it appears to me his vagina is bothering him.
What post brought this on, just wondering?
Blue
This thread: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20073&page=1
But in response to post 81 and what follows: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20073&page=3
Pat
greenberetTFS
10-02-2011, 16:48
Kiss my ass.
I concur................;) :D
Big Teddy :munchin
This thread: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20073&page=1
But in response to post 81 and what follows: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20073&page=3
PatPat--
FWIW, I think that it was the "DADT only the first step" thread here (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35181), the responses to Intel Cop's posts in that thread, and then post numbers 101 to 104.
(In spite of his claims, I don't think MadDogG has read that extensively.)
Nope, nope, nope. I'm not pissed off. I don't have any hurt feelings. I just made an honest evaluation. I gave my opinion. ANd as I said before, the truth will either change you or it will offend you. It obviously offended. Truth hurts sometimes. As far as my wife goes, I told her many times that she looked fat in those jeans. Don't want to know, don't ask. Must be why she left. Huh. I guess I finally figured that one out....now on to important matters.
You are constantly referring to this as your house. It is. I will easily admit that. But did it ever dawn on you, that as much of a 'priviledge' as it is for us weaklings on this planet to come to this website and perhaps converse with our 'heroes', (for lack of a better word) that it is just as much a priviledge for you to be invited into there homes? It is after all on there computer screen and in there home? Did it ever occur to you that some of these people just might not like smart ass comments as much as you? And when attacked, will respond in kind. As far as not liking the website or the people, that is far from the contrary. I do, but I do think you are a little aloof. You know, just because your a Green Beret doesn't make every person on the planet that isn't, a sack of crap. It just makes them not green berets. Doesn't mean that they can do things that you can't. It just means they couldn't do that. Right? I know for a fact there are some things, even you guys can't do. Does that make me better than you? No, it just means I've done different things in my life. I have different experiences. It doesn't make you or me any less of a person, it just makes us different. You guys on here, not all, but a good majority of you have an attitude, that you can say or do whatever you want, and nobody is supposed to say anything about it. Well, I'm saying it, "You were wrong with Intel Geek." Flat out. I have seen it in several other posts on this website. Your like, a little cyber gang. You get your jollies off of being assholes, and when anybody says anything to you about it, you get pissed. YOur able to say rude comments, and nasty things to others, but oh hell no, you'd better not say nothing back to a green beret, you might hurt his f#$%ing feelings.
As far as the immortal comments. It was the only thing I could think of besides just flat out saying that you guys think your 'gods'. You know. I know that you know that your mortal. I'm not totally ignorant. But yeah. You think that your crap don't stink. That's a good thing....to a certain point. And as far as worrying about being shot...yep every morning, every time I step out side my front door, I worry about the asshole down the street that threatened to do it. No big deal. Dealt with guys like him before. So now that I think I've responded to everything. Oh the piss up a rope thing. Yeah. Nice i like that. Never heard that expression before. I may have to borrow that sometime if you don't mind I like it. ANd you never know....You might one day be buying me that beer. If I ever get out that way to bragg I'll be sure to yell, "I'm MadDogG! Where's the beer?" :)
Take care, god bless, and thank you for your service.
Team Sergeant
10-02-2011, 17:45
Nope, nope, nope. I'm not pissed off. I don't have any hurt feelings. I just made an honest evaluation. I gave my opinion. ANd as I said before, the truth will either change you or it will offend you. It obviously offended. Truth hurts sometimes. As far as my wife goes, I told her many times that she looked fat in those jeans. Don't want to know, don't ask. Must be why she left. Huh. I guess I finally figured that one out....now on to important matters.
You are constantly referring to this as your house. It is. I will easily admit that. But did it ever dawn on you, that as much of a 'priviledge' as it is for us weaklings on this planet to come to this website and perhaps converse with our 'heroes', (for lack of a better word) that it is just as much a priviledge for you to be invited into there homes? It is after all on there computer screen and in there home? Did it ever occur to you that some of these people just might not like smart ass comments as much as you? And when attacked, will respond in kind. As far as not liking the website or the people, that is far from the contrary. I do, but I do think you are a little aloof. You know, just because your a Green Beret doesn't make every person on the planet that isn't, a sack of crap. It just makes them not green berets. Doesn't mean that they can do things that you can't. It just means they couldn't do that. Right? I know for a fact there are some things, even you guys can't do. Does that make me better than you? No, it just means I've done different things in my life. I have different experiences. It doesn't make you or me any less of a person, it just makes us different. You guys on here, not all, but a good majority of you have an attitude, that you can say or do whatever you want, and nobody is supposed to say anything about it. Well, I'm saying it, "You were wrong with Intel Geek." Flat out. I have seen it in several other posts on this website. Your like, a little cyber gang. You get your jollies off of being assholes, and when anybody says anything to you about it, you get pissed. YOur able to say rude comments, and nasty things to others, but oh hell no, you'd better not say nothing back to a green beret, you might hurt his f#$%ing feelings.
As far as the immortal comments. It was the only thing I could think of besides just flat out saying that you guys think your 'gods'. You know. I know that you know that your mortal. I'm not totally ignorant. But yeah. You think that your crap don't stink. That's a good thing....to a certain point. And as far as worrying about being shot...yep every morning, every time I step out side my front door, I worry about the asshole down the street that threatened to do it. No big deal. Dealt with guys like him before. So now that I think I've responded to everything. Oh the piss up a rope thing. Yeah. Nice i like that. Never heard that expression before. I may have to borrow that sometime if you don't mind I like it. ANd you never know....You might one day be buying me that beer. If I ever get out that way to bragg I'll be sure to yell, "I'm MadDogG! Where's the beer?" :)
Take care, god bless, and thank you for your service.
Oh I like this guy, let's keep him! ;) We'll ban Sigaba instead.....
craigepo
10-02-2011, 18:00
Yep, it appears to me his vagina is bothering him.
Afchic, is it possible you are a reincarnated Spartan?
.......... I gave my opinion. ANd as I said before, the truth will either change you or it will offend you. It obviously offended. Truth hurts sometimes...........
Not hardly
Son, you ain't never been anywhere near a teamroom and ain't got a clue as to what we think or feel.
But I can tell you one thing if I was a Team Sergeant sitting at my desk with a bunch of the guys around and you walked in and made that speach I wouldn't do a thing.........
I wouldn't have to.........
On of the guys would have grabbed you by the seat of your pants and scruff of the neck and thrown you out the door and bounced you off the far wall coming back shaking his head "WTF was his major malfunction in life."
PS - Sigaba has better class than MDG - and he does insults a whole lot slicker - sometimes his posts need to be read two or three times slowly. MDG appears to like to use a sledge hammer to change a light blub.
The roles around here should be identified in two groups, ingroup and outgroup.
Ingroup = complete and total control. Establishes the environment as they like it.
Outgroup = required to comply or STFU.
That's the way it SHOULD be in their house.
QPs: Thanks again for letting those of us in the outgroup visit the forum. You could make this a private board and require verification in order to even view the threads, but instead you let us come into your house. Some of us appreciate it.
-out
I think I have an antidote for MadDogG's problem(s)..
:D
That's cool. I was going to ask if he needed a tampon.
Hmmm, TS may be on to something...as usual. :D
Intel Cop
10-02-2011, 18:36
Pat--
FWIW, I think that it was the "DADT only the first step" thread here (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35181), the responses to Intel Cop's posts in that thread, and then post numbers 101 to 104.
(In spite of his claims, I don't think MadDogG has read that extensively.)
Don't drag me into this mess! ;) The only thing that threw me off in that thread was one person flat out stating, "Yet you disagree with several QP's" (not word for word). I can take the ribbing, that's nothing, I just wasn't sure if there was a flat out rule against disagreeing with a QP.
Afchic, is it possible you are a reincarnated Spartan?
My hubby just calls me the Amazon bitch from hell!
ZonieDiver
10-02-2011, 19:32
My hubby just calls me the Amazon bitch from hell!
And I'll bet he blessses each day that he as been able to be with "the Amazon bitch from hell"!:D
And I'll bet he blessses each day that he as been able to be with "the Amazon bitch from hell"!:D
Well, at least that's what he says to my face anyway:)
Paragrouper
10-02-2011, 19:40
The whole post
Mad;
I read your post with some interest. I even went back and checked the subject thread so I could determine just what transpired to get you so upset. I must confess that I was confused, as all I saw was a debate. Then I checked your public profile and I realized; you’re that guy! You know, the guy that finds courage in anonymity—one who types without fear—because nobody knows who he is. Your the one who has no problem climbing up on your high-horsey and talking all kinds of smack, just so long as it is long-distance.
Perhaps you would feel better here (http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f48/).
This is where all the other flower sniffing, tea-sipping, rubber sheet using, sensitivity-training honor graduates hang.
Oh I like this guy, let's keep him! ;) We'll ban Sigaba instead.....
IMO you should charge his worthless carcass for the wasted bandwidth, then ban him.
Utah Bob
10-02-2011, 20:16
I sit here sobbing at the abuse heaped upon this poor individual by you cyber bullies for merely expressing his heartfelt feelings. Although he claims not to be offended by your crass and uncouth responses, I am sure that you brutes have caused him to fall into a thumb-sucking fetal position from which he may not recover without some serious counseling.
I would suggest aroma therapy and a session with Dr Phil.....
I'm sorry did I say sobbing? I meant guffawing,:munchin
Eagle5US
10-02-2011, 20:53
your drivel:rolleyes:
Yawn....:boohoo
Snaquebite
10-02-2011, 20:53
WTF?....Logged on saw this an began reading...I agree with Paragrouper...HE IS ONE OF THEM....Those that hide behind whatever they can find but use every public means to speak out about/against something while remaining completely protected by their anominity.
Mad, I would like to see you beef up your profile a bit and let us know a little about your experiences in this world, besides having a lot of hobbies...or maybe those are your experiences. Maybe a reintroduction would be in order also... Otherwise.....F*(K O&*
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have been laughing my ass off during this whole thread! I think we should keep MD20/20 around as the court jester. He reminds me of the cherry to the unit that tries too hard to impress the old guys at the bar.:rolleyes:
Maddog, I've found so much of life is explained on engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com/). Go there and the truth will set you free.
This thread kinda sucks... good thing there are plenty other things to look at on the internet or do offline.
Life is too short. Make good use of your time... too many aren't able to.
Mad, I would like to see you beef up your profile a bit and let us know a little about your experiences in this world, besides having a lot of hobbies...or maybe those are your experiences. Maybe a reintroduction would be in order also... Otherwise.....F*(K O&*
Profile: Done
Intro Beefed up: Done
Dozer523
10-03-2011, 09:25
PUPAROPE
NS,TIW! This was my NC License plate at Bragg "85 - 88".
I beat my one speeding ticket cuz the Officer got it and couldn't stop laughing.
Team Sergeant
10-03-2011, 09:57
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have been laughing my ass off during this whole thread! I think we should keep MD20/20 around as the court jester. He reminds me of the cherry to the unit that tries too hard to impress the old guys at the bar.:rolleyes:
See, someone gets it.......:D
Ten posts and the welder already feels tall enough to mouth off to the members of this forum? I am by no means a QP but I have put enough time under my belt as a soldier to tell you that you are a bit off your rocker. Most of the members of this forum have spent anywhere from a few years to most of their adult lives putting themselves in harms way so that you might become a hardcore truck driving-house painting welder. Hell, I bet some of the people on here where learning how to kill before you were learning how to walk. I find it slightly amusing that you find it appropriate to speak of anyone like that. Kind of sounds like someone takes their freedom for granted if you ask me. How about this, the next time you feel the urge to disrespect the QP's on this forum and everyone in uniform for that matter, get your welding gear, catch a flight to the Helmand Province and try welding under fire. That might teach you something.
QP's please delete if I was out of place for this.
MadDawg,
10 whole post and you feel like you can run your suck hole and tell these guys they are being meanies.
From one guest to another "etadik".
Quit giving geust a bad name.
TOMAHAWK9521
10-03-2011, 14:26
WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think "Respect is earned not given". However, my point of view is irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition.
Ah, you have come far my son! You have begun to grasp the knowledge and wisdom of which we speak and choose to bestow upon thee. Therefore, I shall bless thee with my countenance and allow thee to gaze upon my Randall Knife and kiss my Black Star-Saphire Ring! Bow before the awe inspiring awesomeness that is I! :D
You've vented a bit and the board has replied.
It's your choice right now to come back and be a regular member or drift off somewhere else.
But you are no longer a "gray man". All the members of the board will now be watching your posts to see if they have any meat on them or if they're just fluff. To see if you were just venting - or if that's the way you truely are.
We shall see.............
How about one of the nice QP mod's close this thread before it turns into a flash mob??
:munchin
Originally Posted by MadDogG
WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think "Respect is earned not given". However, my point of view is irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition.Need we say more?
Stay safe.
How about one of the nice QP mod's close this thread before it turns into a flash mob??
:munchin
I second the Motion!!!!!!!:munchin
Ret10Echo
10-03-2011, 16:07
How about one of the nice QP mod's close this thread before it turns into a flash mob??
:munchin
Dang...I already flipped my car over in the driveway and set it on fire....
greenberetTFS
10-03-2011, 16:12
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have been laughing my ass off during this whole thread! I think we should keep MD20/20 around as the Court Jester.. He reminds me of the cherry to the unit that tries too hard to impress the old guys at the bar.:rolleyes:
:D ;)
Big Teddy :munchin
But wait...does anyone realize it has been almost a year to the day that the "Your Ruck is in the Hall" thread has been updated? Hmmm? It used to keep me coming back here regularly.
Utah Bob
10-03-2011, 16:33
Chortle...;)
Team Sergeant
10-03-2011, 16:34
But wait...does anyone realize it has been almost a year to the day that the "Your Ruck is in the Hall" thread has been updated? Hmmm? It used to keep me coming back here regularly.
I was thinking the same thing, but my guess is that before MadDogG posted his "rant" it had the desired impact on most guests..........;)
greenberetTFS
10-03-2011, 16:52
But wait...does anyone realize it has been almost a year to the day that the "Your Ruck is in the Hall" thread has been updated? Hmmm? It used to keep me coming back here regularly.
Peons like myself do not have access to that forum.......;) :( :D
Big Teddy :munchin
Dang...I already flipped my car over in the driveway and set it on fire....
:D LOL! :D
No matter what some people accuse QPs of being - you're some of the funniest men around. Thanks for the humor you guys bring to the rest of us.
Susan
The Reaper
10-03-2011, 18:03
Yep. I thought that he was. I'm sorry. I just seem to be noticing a recurring theme on this forum. It seems to me, that certain individuals, feel it's ok to attack some one else in a message, and be rude, and then expect the other person to just let it slide. As if.....well, as if you think everyone should kiss your ass because your a member of a certain group. While what you have achieved in your lifetime is truly extraordinary and granted few can make the cut....you are still just mortal men. Time and time again I read on this site, some of you referring to not getting upset, and being able to take criticism, while all the while, you the men that us mere mortals are supposed to be looking up to, get emotionally upset when you think that some one is being disrespectful. I see a huge disconnect between the label and that self proclaimed professionalism. I mean it makes one wonder if you walk around town with a big sign that says, "Bow before the awe inspiring awesomeness that is I" You know what I mean? I know 'Read More and post less", I get that. I've read far more than I've posted. I've held my tongue on this as well. For the short time that I've been here, and the many posts that I have read, this is a recurring theme. WHile I do respect you, and your accomplishment, I do personally think you take yourselves a little too seriously, and you do not afford the same respect that you would have others give you. The next post will be somebody saying, "Respect is earned not given" and that is wrong as well. You can't earn it. It is given in small amounts until such time as you deem that person not worthy of it. Otherwise we would all be pissing on each others shoes and going to blows.
With that being said. My point of view however irrelevant to you immortal gods of the warrior tradition. Was that one of you was verbally attacking a mere mortal of a man and when he defended himself, the immortal got butt hurt, and the other immortals started crying foul. Get real. You either want men, that can stand up for themselves, or you want people to suck up, kiss your feet, and move on. You can't have it both ways. If it takes being a man who says what he means, and means what he says, to be a member of your outfit, then except it when a man stands up for himself. If he can't and has to revert to being a suck up....did you really want him anyways? I'm sure someone will come on here and tell me that I am out of line, and tell me I am warned and how many strikes I will have against me. It's ok. I have broad shoulders. I'm not 19 or 20. It takes a lot to impress me these days. If you choose to see this as an attack, or a disrespectful post that is your choice. It's the truth, and the truth will either offend you or it will change you. I wonder will you ban me for speaking my mind and calling it like I see it? Are you professional? Can you take the same criticism that you dish out? It's your house, and I am a guest, but I am curious to know, can a man, speak his mind in your house?
You know, that quote was a long way from this one below.:rolleyes:
from a civilians stand point. I think in my mind anyways. WHen people like my future ex-wife are talking about this war or that war. HOw soldiers are doing the right or the wrong, blah, blah, blah. There is a part at the beginning of John Wayne's 'Green Berets' movie that has always stuck out in my mind, "A soldier goes where he's told to go and fights whoever he's told to fight.", that a lot of people miss. ONce you sign your name on that piece of paper, you take that oath, you are saying you WILL go wherever you are asked to go and perform your duty for your country whatever that may be. As civilians, especially in the United States, the idea of not having a choice in the matter....is well, hard to realize, and to understand. WHile yes, ( and I may be wrong), there are some instances where personal, moral, i.e., religious reasons perhaps may prevent a soldier from doing a certain assignment, for the most part, I think that quote holds true. And well it should. So yeah, I think that some soldiers do have a little bit of disdain for civilians, and why shouldn't they? I think TR brought out some really good examples off why they might get a little pissed off at us civilians, because we don't know, and we don't and can't understand, what there life is like until we have been there, if and when one ever does. What one of us, that has never been in the military, let alone a war, can really and truly understand or even begin to fathom the kinds of choices they have to make on an everyday basis? The decisions these gentlemen make, and many other soldiers, isn't what to wear to work, or what soda pop they are going to buy on the way, or what to get for dinner that night, it's who do I have to send into harms way, that might not ever come home. That's a question that is hard to grasp for someone that hasn't been there. I know, because I haven't been there. Really when everyday is a life or death decision, as civilians, we should just say 'Thank you, god bless you for what you do, and may you come home safe every day, or night." Then take TR's advice, and "READ MORE AND POST LESS!" Cause as civilians we DON'T HAVE A FREAKING CLUE! Really. So...time to read more and post less.
Maybe you should have taken some of that advice you dispensed so freely just a few weeks ago.
Let me break this down for you.
I quit counting memorial services for my brothers when I had attended 21 of them. Imagine a couple of your best friends being killed every month for ten years. That is what we are dealing with now. Mistakes get people killed. Doing the right thing can get people killed. Helping people can get you killed. And sometimes, doing nothing at all can get people killed as well. We are people who have serious jobs, and have to have a serious attitude. People who fail to follow simple instructions piss us off.
Have you spent a lot of Christmases in some austere location, missing your family? Have you gone a year without a beer, because someone else thought you should? Have you been injured risking your life for people you do not even know, and who probably wouldn't like you or appreciate it if they did? I am not altogether certain that people who do not have to deploy, shower, sleep, and share blood with their coworkers should be telling us who we have to accept and how we should change our attitudes. My beliefs are my own. Not an apology, or an excuse. Just the way it is. BTW, what you have done for your country today?
Some of us are pretty damn funny, too. It helps to break the tension. Occasionally.
Most of us are fathers. We do FID and UW in some of the worst places on this planet to help the locals out. We get the helping people grow and guiding those less fortunate than ourselves bit. At the same time, as noted, this is our house, and you are a guest. You are entitled to express your opinion. Respectfully. Do not be surprised if people disagree with you. If you do not put down the shovel in time, then you run the risk of getting dogpiled. Probably happens some in one of those bars you mentioned. Someone has one too many, opens his mouth at the wrong place and time, and gets knocked on his ass. If he is smart, he shuts up, nurses his next drink, and comes back again for another night. Or he can open his mouth again and make it worse. Sometimes, much worse. You know the deal.
Things will occasionally get heated among ourselves, but mutual respect is always afforded to brothers, and we try not to make our pissing contests public. You are not a brother. You are not even the friend of a brother. You will not get that tolerance here for a long time, if ever.
If reading this board and the way we act disturbs you, visit another of the millions of forums out there. I don't come here to read what you think about us, good, bad, or indifferent. I don't care what you think. I believe that life is too short to be concerned with you and your opinions. If you want to stay, accept the rules we place on guests and conduct yourself accordingly. If you really want to jock up and be one of the brothers, see a recruiter. Once you have a beret, a couple of years on a team, and a deployment or two, come back, get vetted, and jump right in with both feet. If you are a brother, and you piss off a guest, I will always have your back, at least publicly.
If this offends you as well, and you are still experiencing severe vaginal pain, complete this attached form and submit it to any admin here for initial disapproval. Resubmit in 90 days for final disapproval.
Have a very SF day.
TR
anonymous + internet = dumbass
219seminole
10-03-2011, 20:03
As a guest in this house, this thread provided me with lots of amusement over the weekend. After reading the OP I could hardly wait for the ARCLIGHT to begin. :D
Considering that his name is Mad Dog I thought him to be rather delicate of feelings.
Will there be more? :munchin
Snaquebite
10-03-2011, 20:14
GREAT response TR....
Maybe mad dog is just going through a bad time of the month and needs one of these...
20166
DADT
As a guest in this house, this thread provided me with lots of amusement over the weekend. After reading the OP I could hardly wait for the ARCLIGHT to begin. :D
Considering that his name is Mad Dog I thought him to be rather delicate of feelings.
Will there be more? :munchin
Why do you feel compelled to comment in this thread at this time? Are you a closet attention whore asking for some of the same type of attention that MD is getting right now, but are just too shy to ask?
I am of the opinion that anyone dumb enough to run INTO an impact area might be a good candidate for elimination from the gene pool.
I think the QPs commenting in this thread are doing fine by themselves without any help.
219seminole
10-03-2011, 20:50
No foul intended, but it is in the General Discussion and not higher up in the list.
Apologies.
greenberetTFS
10-04-2011, 04:17
You know, that quote was a long way from this one below.:rolleyes:
Maybe you should have taken some of that advice you dispensed so freely just a few weeks ago.
Let me break this down for you.
I quit counting memorial services for my brothers when I had attended 21 of them. Imagine a couple of your best friends being killed every month for ten years. That is what we are dealing with now. Mistakes get people killed. Doing the right thing can get people killed. Helping people can get you killed. And sometimes, doing nothing at all can get people killed as well. We are people who have serious jobs, and have to have a serious attitude. People who fail to follow simple instructions piss us off.
Have you spent a lot of Christmases in some austere location, missing your family? Have you gone a year without a beer, because someone else thought you should? Have you been injured risking your life for people you do not even know, and who probably wouldn't like you or appreciate it if they did? I am not altogether certain that people who do not have to deploy, shower, sleep, and share blood with their coworkers should be telling us who we have to accept and how we should change our attitudes. My beliefs are my own. Not an apology, or an excuse. Just the way it is. BTW, what you have done for your country today?
Some of us are pretty damn funny, too. It helps to break the tension. Occasionally.
Most of us are fathers. We do FID and UW in some of the worst places on this planet to help the locals out. We get the helping people grow and guiding those less fortunate than ourselves bit. At the same time, as noted, this is our house, and you are a guest. You are entitled to express your opinion. Respectfully. Do not be surprised if people disagree with you. If you do not put down the shovel in time, then you run the risk of getting dogpiled. Probably happens some in one of those bars you mentioned. Someone has one too many, opens his mouth at the wrong place and time, and gets knocked on his ass. If he is smart, he shuts up, nurses his next drink, and comes back again for another night. Or he can open his mouth again and make it worse. Sometimes, much worse. You know the deal.
Things will occasionally get heated among ourselves, but mutual respect is always afforded to brothers, and we try not to make our pissing contests public. You are not a brother. You are not even the friend of a brother. You will not get that tolerance here for a long time, if ever.
If reading this board and the way we act disturbs you, visit another of the millions of forums out there. I don't come here to read what you think about us, good, bad, or indifferent. I don't care what you think. I believe that life is too short to be concerned with you and your opinions. If you want to stay, accept the rules we place on guests and conduct yourself accordingly. If you really want to jock up and be one of the brothers, see a recruiter. Once you have a beret, a couple of years on a team, and a deployment or two, come back, get vetted, and jump right in with both feet. If you are a brother, and you piss off a guest, I will always have your back, at least publicly.
If this offends you as well, and you are still experiencing severe vaginal pain, complete this attached form and submit it to any admin here for initial disapproval. Resubmit in 90 days for final disapproval.
Have a very SF day.
TR
Excellent response TR,if he doesn't get that message now,I doubt he ever will...;)
Big Teddy :munchin
You know, that quote was a long way from this one below.:rolleyes:
Maybe you should have taken some of that advice you dispensed so freely just a few weeks ago.
Let me break this down for you.
I quit counting memorial services for my brothers when I had attended 21 of them. Imagine a couple of your best friends being killed every month for ten years. That is what we are dealing with now. Mistakes get people killed. Doing the right thing can get people killed. Helping people can get you killed. And sometimes, doing nothing at all can get people killed as well. We are people who have serious jobs, and have to have a serious attitude. People who fail to follow simple instructions piss us off.
Have you spent a lot of Christmases in some austere location, missing your family? Have you gone a year without a beer, because someone else thought you should? Have you been injured risking your life for people you do not even know, and who probably wouldn't like you or appreciate it if they did? I am not altogether certain that people who do not have to deploy, shower, sleep, and share blood with their coworkers should be telling us who we have to accept and how we should change our attitudes. My beliefs are my own. Not an apology, or an excuse. Just the way it is. BTW, what you have done for your country today?
Some of us are pretty damn funny, too. It helps to break the tension. Occasionally.
Most of us are fathers. We do FID and UW in some of the worst places on this planet to help the locals out. We get the helping people grow and guiding those less fortunate than ourselves bit. At the same time, as noted, this is our house, and you are a guest. You are entitled to express your opinion. Respectfully. Do not be surprised if people disagree with you. If you do not put down the shovel in time, then you run the risk of getting dogpiled. Probably happens some in one of those bars you mentioned. Someone has one too many, opens his mouth at the wrong place and time, and gets knocked on his ass. If he is smart, he shuts up, nurses his next drink, and comes back again for another night. Or he can open his mouth again and make it worse. Sometimes, much worse. You know the deal.
Things will occasionally get heated among ourselves, but mutual respect is always afforded to brothers, and we try not to make our pissing contests public. You are not a brother. You are not even the friend of a brother. You will not get that tolerance here for a long time, if ever.
If reading this board and the way we act disturbs you, visit another of the millions of forums out there. I don't come here to read what you think about us, good, bad, or indifferent. I don't care what you think. I believe that life is too short to be concerned with you and your opinions. If you want to stay, accept the rules we place on guests and conduct yourself accordingly. If you really want to jock up and be one of the brothers, see a recruiter. Once you have a beret, a couple of years on a team, and a deployment or two, come back, get vetted, and jump right in with both feet. If you are a brother, and you piss off a guest, I will always have your back, at least publicly.
If this offends you as well, and you are still experiencing severe vaginal pain, complete this attached form and submit it to any admin here for initial disapproval. Resubmit in 90 days for final disapproval.
Have a very SF day.
TR
Wow, aint that all to familiar...good post...so true..
ZonieDiver
10-04-2011, 06:41
Excellent response TR,if he doesn't get that message now,I doubt he ever will...;)
Big Teddy :munchin
Big Teddy,
I doubt he ever will. Some can. Some can't. I think, from his response to the initial "counseling sessions," that he falls into the latter category.
On a lighter note, can we change his name to "Mad Dog 20/20"! :D
Big Teddy,
I doubt he ever will. Some can. Some can't. I think, from his response to the initial "counseling sessions," that he falls into the latter category.
On a lighter note, can we change his name to "Mad Dog 20/20"! :D
I second that. Change his name, then ban him.
I think MaddogG is absolutely right!!! I have always felt intimidated and pressured by many of the QP's who post here, and now I know I am not only not alone but my feelings are justified thanks to the heroic and courageous post of our esteemed guest.
Hell I want to buy this man a beer!!! Problem is I wouldn't recognize him if I struck out to is neck of the woods. So I would like to announce right now that I have a bar tab with his name on it waiting at Charlie Mikes just outside of Bragg if he, or anyone else who feels slighted by the warrior elite who endlessly boast of their feats and care little about those others around them, would like to come claim it.
All you have to do is walk in and announce how fucked up Green Berets are, and that you have the shoulders and skin thick enough to speak your mind! Say it loudly and proudly! I find that the truth spoken loudly from strangers who visit is usually the most liberating!!!
I truly feel as if a new chapter in my life is about to begin!
I'l even buy round two for him....