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Just bought a Savage Arms Axis XP .308 and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with them. Also, does anyone know where I can find a aftermarket stock possibly with rails? Please delete if posted in the wrong AO.
mark46th
09-19-2011, 11:20
Why would you want rails on it? It's a long range weapon not for CBQ...
Very valid point. I retract the rails part(wasn't thinking clearly this morning). Just looking for a stock with a cheek pad really. The stock it has is good but I'm about to tape some foam padding to it.
Very valid point. I retract the rails part(wasn't thinking clearly this morning). Just looking for a stock with a cheek pad really. The stock it has is good but I'm about to tape some foam padding to it.
How accurate is it?
After zeroing the scope (simmons) at the crappiest range I have ever been on I'm putting consistent shot groups into a 3-inch circle at 100yds using basic .308 Winchester. Nothing extreme but I'm still getting used to it. I'm going to re-zero it at a different range soon. Hopefully one that has shooting positions that don't look like a JDAM helped build them. Plus, I'm way out of practice as I haven't gotten to shoot a lot in my current assignment.
After zeroing the scope (simmons) at the crappiest range I have ever been on I'm putting consistent shot groups into a 3-inch circle at 100yds using basic .308 Winchester. Nothing extreme but I'm still getting used to it. I'm going to re-zero it at a different range soon. Hopefully one that has shooting positions that don't look like a JDAM helped build them. Plus, I'm way out of practice as I haven't gotten to shoot a lot in my current assignment.
After your cold, clean bore shot, you should be touching holes at 100 yards off a bag with a sock. Even with a Simmons scope. Those Savages are normally pretty decent rifles...
I blame operator head space and timing due to lack of practice mostly. Been a while since I had a rifle to shoot whenever I want. I have seen what they can do in the ways of accuracy and I was very impressed. Plus for the price, you can't really beat it.
Stingray
09-19-2011, 16:50
Excellent for the price.
I have an Edge 30.06. It is the first run of the Axis before the name change.
Very accurate if you can get over the trigger. The trigger isn't very good and isn't adjustable. I am trading out the trigger a Basix trigger from Midway USA. Not very expensive.
I don't have much time behind a scope and would consider myself a marginal shot with glass. But I am putting 3 shot groups within an inch at 100 yards. It is listed as an entry level and the price is right. I am very happy with it.
Sincerely,
Peregrino
09-19-2011, 17:26
Check with HS Precision. Get one of their Varmit stocks and add an extra sling swivel. Decent price, quality mid-level stock, and they offer a military discount too. No sense in spending mega bucks for a big name stock on a starter rifle (I am NOT badmouthing the Savage!). FWIW - I would suggest getting a Jewell or a Timney trigger vs the Rifle Basix.
longrange1947
09-19-2011, 17:36
Savage is an excellent weapon for its price and I have recommended it to more than a few new shooters. The weapon is capable of much greater accuracy then 3 moa. You should get 1 moa easy. Some of your trouble could be scope.
As far as rails, the only reason for rails is what we use them for and I doubt seriously you are going to have the bucks for a PVS-26/27 and a laser illuminator. If you can afford them then you can engage targets at night to about 700 meters with your weapon. :munchin :D
mojaveman
09-19-2011, 21:39
Those Savages are normally pretty decent rifles...
Agree
Was reluctant to buy one for a long time because I never really liked the bolts or the way they were built. Bought a 10FP a few years ago and have been very happy with it. They may not be as refined as some of the better known brands but they are definately accurate.
I blame operator head space and timing due to lack of practice mostly. Been a while since I had a rifle to shoot whenever I want. I have seen what they can do in the ways of accuracy and I was very impressed. Plus for the price, you can't really beat it.
Many good shooters spent many hours getting in the correct firing position, going through the correct steps, and dry firing before they even went to the range, and it seemed to help with consistent accuracy.
Before you spend anymore money, try buying a couple hundred rounds of Black Hills and learn the basics with what you already own-especially trigger control and breathing, how to clean the bore, etc.
You may not need to buy anything else.
If you can't get at least MOA by then, get a better scope and a Jewell trigger.
Thanks for all the advice. I could definately tell position and breathing were kicking my ass out there. Going back out this weekend to put some more down range. About the trigger.....yeah, its a little rough, but I'll give it some time to break it in before I trade it out.
Once you get that supply of Black Hills, spend a few more bucks before you fire a singel round and have a competent gunsmith make sure the scope is on right (loose screws, loose mount, poor fit between scope/rings/base/receiver...). Other causes include loose guard screws and poor bedding. I and others have pick-up some great rifles cheap because the then owner couldn't get a rifle to group, got disgusted, and then sold the "problem". Don't shoot another round until you know everything is mechanically right with the gun.
MVP
MVP: Way ahead of you on that one. Had the whole system inspected and bore sighted by a smith. Weapons are kind of like used cars to me, you never know what you're going to get even when the gun is fresh out of the box. After seeing people buy weapons modified by morons, I don't trust any of them till they are inspected.
MVP: Way ahead of you on that one. Had the whole system inspected and bore sighted by a smith. Weapons are kind of like used cars to me, you never know what you're going to get even when the gun is fresh out of the box. After seeing people buy weapons modified by morons, I don't trust any of them till they are inspected.
Then try this.
Acquire a target, then slowly press the trigger to the rear while concentrating 100% on the acquired target. When the trigger breaks, continue pressing it to the rear until it stops, and hold it dead nuts throughout the entire sequence.
If the break didn't surprise you, replaced the trigger with one that will.
Will do. Thanks for all the help.
Will do. Thanks for all the help.
OK, well, then-no more posts on this subject from you until you're shooting sub-MOA at 100 yards.
:D
The wife let me out to play for a few hours yesterday so I went and burned through about 50 rds. After much arguing with the rifle and body position, I can now consistently get 5-6 rounds in a one inch circle. After a few attempts, I got a lesson in mirages from the old timer that was playing lane safety at the range. Got me to slow down a little more and focus on position and relaxing behind the weapon. Thanks Dusty and everyone else for the help. Going back out this weekend to put some more down range.
The wife let me out to play for a few hours yesterday so I went and burned through about 50 rds. After much arguing with the rifle and body position, I can now consistently get 5-6 rounds in a one inch circle. After a few attempts, I got a lesson in mirages from the old timer that was playing lane safety at the range. Got me to slow down a little more and focus on position and relaxing behind the weapon. Thanks Dusty and everyone else for the help. Going back out this weekend to put some more down range.
Bring the old-timer, so you don't waste any time. :D
He is there every time I go. Its a gun club with large coffee pots so they spend lots of time there. Mostly laughing at retards that show up with a Bushmaster BA50 with an ACOG, PEQ-4, and one big ass surefire trying to use it on a 100 meter range. (This guy had WAY to much money) Then they turn their attention to the people like me. It's like shooting lessons for free.
Blitzzz (RIP)
10-19-2011, 13:44
Just picked up my new Savage 110BA in 338 Lap... Put a Leatherwood M1200 on it and am ready to hit the range.. I've yet to put a bipod on it, and any suggestions are welcome....I like the Harris Bipods I use so, but will look at anything new or mo better...
I'll send Pics after the bipod is on...
I used a $40 Blackhawk on my Axis and it works great plus it is easy to install. Picked it up at Academy.