Hunt for Bin Laden

[dennisw]

Lately there has been quite a number of television programs on related to 9/11. In fact, there was a show on recently where George Bush talked about his perspective on the attack, etc. Well it's been ten years and Bush is no longer in office so that seemed okay.

Last night there was one related to the hunt for Bin Laden. All about how he was found and killed. They showed the ins and outs of how they collected the data. From satellite footage to footage from predator drones. Then of course, there were the numerous interviews with Obama. Usually political figures do not participate in these mini-doucumentaries until they are out of office and some time has elapsed. However, Obama was the central figure in this show. How he made the tough decision. When he asked for opinions from his cadre of advisors about whether or not send troops in, the common response was, "Mr. President, that's a tough call." No one could make the tough call but Obama. I found it disturbing and unbelievable.

Additionally, showing exactly how they generated the lead on finding Osama and how they put it all together, appeared be to be quite a OPSEC violation. Very annoying.

Almost as annoying as the phrase which was continually applied to the Seals as "the most elite of the special operations clandestine units. "

Really? I know it's television, but most elite clandestine unit? Does clandestine mean something different now? I wish they would have gone into how we lost one of the top secret stealth helicopter during this mission. There's another question, Why are we privy to a television show which talks about the top secret stealth helicopter?

It's all about the One. All in all, it was just one long campaign ad for Obama. When it comes to his re-election, top secret, OPSEC violation are not as important.

[Sacamuelas]

Dennis-
The board also isn't going to allow a "whose unit is bigger" ;)type discussion on who is the "most elite". The board rules are clear.

If you want to stay on the political side of the argument, great. I agree, the chosen one is trying to exploit the operation. Interested to hear other's opinions.

[rdret1]

It is obvious he wants to exploit it for political purposes. Look how quickly he gave access to information to prospective movie producers.

[Surgicalcric]

Clandestine and SEAL in the same sentence. Thats funny!!!!!!

[MTN Medic]

Clandestine and SEAL in the same sentence. Thats funny!!!!!!

How do you know when you are sitting next to a SEAL in a bar?





















Don't worry, he'll tell you. :D

[lindy]

Additionally, showing exactly how they generated the lead on finding Osama and how they put it all together, appeared be to be quite a OPSEC violation.

The "info" they outlined had to be classified before it can be considered any type of violation. It's for TV and was made for entertainment. A geek, who has the scary ability to recall senseless trivia, sitting in front of a computer for hours doesn't make good TV.

[dennisw]

The "info" they outlined had to be classified before it can be considered any type of violation. It's for TV and was made for entertainment.

How do we know none of this information was not classified? Are you saying "since it was on t.v. it couldn't have been classified? Is that the same as if the NYT releases information it must not have been classified? I personally never heard of the stealth helicopter until the details of this raid were released. Your point is what?

A geek, who has the scary ability to recall senseless trivia, sitting in front of a computer for hours doesn't make good TV.


Thanks for the incredible insight?

[lindy]

How do we know none of this information was not classified? Are you saying "since it was on t.v. it couldn't have been classified? Is that the same as if the NYT releases information it must not have been classified? I personally never heard of the stealth helicopter until the details of this raid were released. Your point is what?

Thanks for the incredible insight?

My rational was that there is still much work to be done to deny, disrupt, and destroy AQ and there are forces afield trying to do just that. Any release of information could seriously jeopardize those efforts and I doubt that there would be enough leaks for an investigative reporter to connect all the dots. It's possible but not probable in my opinion.

I'm not an imagery analyst but to my very untrained eyes the crashed helo looks very similar to the Comanche in style.

[aaronw]

Clandestine and SEAL in the same sentence. Thats funny!!!!!!

The leaks are coming from the top....

[1stindoor]

How do we know none of this information was not classified? Are you saying "since it was on t.v. it couldn't have been classified? Is that the same as if the NYT releases information it must not have been classified? I personally never heard of the stealth helicopter until the details of this raid were released. Your point is what?

Thanks for the incredible insight?

Shortly after 9/11 I was able to sit through a power point presentation that had all the data taken from open source material readily available on the web that detailed how one could go about hijacking a plane and flying it into a building. This briefing was the work of several warrents showing how much data is already out there if the person doing the looking is properly motivated.

I imagine the briefing was much more informative and attention getting than the hours, days, and weeks it took to sit in front of the computer and compile the data.

[Surgicalcric]

The leaks are coming from the top....

I know where the leak is coming from. I never suggested it was a SEAL.

From my experience of working and training along side them, the average SEAL couldn't define clandestine without two dictionaries... Thats what is funny...