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MVP
08-04-2011, 12:49
You have to wonder when Holder will have to resign...

Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information


http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410

MVP

Dusty
08-04-2011, 12:56
Why would he have to resign? He has the protection of the administration and the liberal media.

MiTTMedic
08-04-2011, 13:25
Well, that story will never make CNN

tonyz
08-04-2011, 15:26
Given the gun running, drug dealing and life taking let me be the first to hand this to U.S. Northern Command..."you didn't hear it from me"...the newest player on the SW border is the Obama cartel.

kgoerz
08-04-2011, 15:26
Ill be disappointed when our way of life collapses, especially for my Son. But I will get a chuckle knowing our politicians will be fighting for their next Meal like me.

rdret1
08-04-2011, 18:00
They scream for new gun laws when existing laws cover pretty much everything; then they break those laws and try to exploit the media to get more laws. They scream about the drug problems in our country; then ignore federal drug laws and allow drugs into the country. They ignore the constitution; then try to use it to give the President more power. We just need to start over.

Team Sergeant
08-04-2011, 18:17
They scream for new gun laws when existing laws cover pretty much everything; then they break those laws and try to exploit the media to get more laws. They scream about the drug problems in our country; then ignore federal drug laws and allow drugs into the country. They ignore the constitution; then try to use it to give the President more power. We just need to start over.

I'm in, when do we start?:munchin

Paslode
08-04-2011, 19:11
Ill be disappointed when our way of life collapses, especially for my Son. But I will get a chuckle knowing our politicians will be fighting for their next Meal like me.

Nice to see I am not alone in that train of thought.

lindy
08-04-2011, 21:58
Given the gun running, drug dealing and life taking let me be the first to hand this to U.S. Northern Command..."you didn't hear it from me"...the newest player on the SW border is the Obama cartel.

I'm not following you on this. Are you saying that this is NORTHCOM's doing? :confused:

Don't forget that the filing is FROM Zambada-Niebla's attorney.

tonyz
08-05-2011, 07:14
I'm not following you on this. Are you saying that this is NORTHCOM's doing? :confused:

Don't forget that the filing is FROM Zambada-Niebla's attorney.

You couldn’t see that tongue buried in my cheek, huh.

Blame = responsibility and with this administration responsibility remains a take your pick proposition.

Perhaps there would be less confusion if Holder would come clean under oath before congress - don't hold your breath.

See below to potentially connect the dots from BATF to U.S. Northern Command to Justice to WH. My comments were meant to be a play on the testimony wherein William Newell, former Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive’s Phoenix Field Division emailed this man, Kevin O'Reilly, US Foreign Service, Director of North American Affairs, US National Security Council, about Fast and Furious and guns being moved to Mexico. The emails took place reportedly 3-4 - or more - times per year or whenever O'Reilly "reached out" to BATF.

"You didn't get this from me..." was Newell’s now famous limitation before sharing information with O’Reilly.

The DOJ/BATF report
U.S. Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Office of Field Operations
UNCLASSIFIED//LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE
Project Gunrunner – A Cartel Focused Strategy
September 2010

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/se...l_Strategy.pdf

Page 2 - paragraph 5 of Executive Summary:

"Over the past few years the White House, the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security and even the U.S. Northern Command have developed various strategies and policies designed to leverage the full capabilities of the U.S. government in this effort. It is essential that our efforts support the strategies and policies of the President and the Attorney General and where possible, complement the strategies of other agencies.“

A snip of a news story from CBS below…probably dozens of similar reports online.

“At a lengthy hearing on ATF's controversial gunwalking operation today, a key ATF manager told Congress he discussed the case with a White House National Security staffer as early as September 2010. The communications were between ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office, Bill Newell, and White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O'Reilly. Newell said the two are longtime friends. The content of what Newell shared with O'Reilly is unclear and wasn't fully explored at the hearing.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20083772-10391695.html

lindy
08-05-2011, 16:49
Ah OK, got it. I read your post as though it implied the DOJ elements listed were somehow subordinated to the DOD command.

Doc Diego
08-05-2011, 17:09
The only thing making me realize I'm not in the "Twilight Zone" is the color. Or considering the newspeak maybe "1984". All I know for sure is "reform" isn't going to cut it. We'll have to start with a new foundation, like the first one, built upon the Constitution. I know there are a lot of like minded individuals here, hopefully we can link up.