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Dusty
07-12-2011, 13:07
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078789-503544.html

lol This guy's just brilliant, ain't he? Most of his voting bloc draws SS. :D


President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

The Obama administration and many economists have warned of economic catastrophe if the United States does not raise the amount it is legally allowed to borrow by August 2.

Lawmakers from both parties want to use the threat of that deadline to work out a broader package on long-term deficit reduction, with Republicans looking to cut trillions of dollars in federal spending, while Democrats are pushing for a more "balanced approach," which would include both spending cuts and increased revenue through taxes.

The Debt Limit fight: A primer

Democratic and Republican lawmakers are expected to hold another round of negotiations with Mr. Obama at the White House Tuesday afternoon on long-term deficit reduction, though talks have yielded little results to date.

Mr. Obama told Pelley "this is not just a matter of Social Security checks. These are veterans checks, these are folks on disability and their checks. There are about 70 million checks that go out."

The interview will air Tuesday evening on the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley.

Mr. Obama's comments followed remarks from the Senate's top Republican, who said Tuesday that he did not see a way for Republicans and Democrats to come to agreement on meaningful deficit reduction as long as Mr. Obama remains in office.

"After years of discussions and months of negotiations, I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office, a real solution is probably unattainable," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in remarks on the Senate floor.

Still, McConnell said Republicans would "do the responsible thing" to avoid default, suggesting that a deal on the debt ceiling could be reached without a "real" deficit reduction package.

"The president has presented us with three choices: smoke and mirrors, tax hikes, or default. Republicans choose none of the above. I had hoped to do good, but I refuse to do harm. So Republicans will choose a path that actually reflects the will of the people, which is to do the responsible thing and ensure that the government doesn't default on its obligations," he said.

Mr. Obama has repeatedly said he wants a deal that would allow the U.S. to avoid confronting the issue again until after the 2012 elections and vowed on Monday that he would "not sign a 30-day or a 60-day or a 90-day extension."

"This the United States of America and, you know, we don't manage our affairs in three-month increments. You know, we don't risk U.S. default on our obligations because we can't put politics aside," Mr. Obama told reporters at the White House yesterday.

Pete
07-12-2011, 13:21
Ah, wait a second here folks. What's up with no checks? The Social Security Trust Fund has millions and millions and millions of dollars in it. Each of us have our very own Gold Plated account with our money just waiting for us to start drawing it.

rdret1
07-12-2011, 13:37
What really gets my goat is, Obama has never mentioned getting rid of the hundreds of non-essential bureaucrats HE hired, the overlapping and redundant government agencies, the bloated IRS, dropping all pork barrel projects for the next few years, etc. etc. The only two things dems scream about is social security and taxes; as if they were the only two options out there.

head
07-12-2011, 14:06
sweet.. so no SS deduction for August out of our paychecks, right?...

Dusty
07-12-2011, 14:17
I think the rationale is that if he aggravates the entitlement crowd, they'll jump on the Republicans for stubbornly refusing to cooperate (defined in this case as caving in to Obama's demands).

nmap
07-12-2011, 14:53
Perhaps there is another possibility - the creation of a crisis.

Stop paying Social Security...wait for the frightened elderly to react...then issue an executive order to raise the debt ceiling. He simply ignores Congressional input, as is the case with the Libyan situation.

He gains power, and becomes a hero to a group of voters.

What can congress do to stop him? I suspect nothing.

nmap
07-12-2011, 15:00
Oh, never mind - Senator McConnell has suggested something quite similar...

LINK (http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/McConnell-Give-Obama-new-powers-on-debt-limit-1460479.php)

Excerpt:


WASHINGTON (AP) — The top Republican in the Senate proposed on Tuesday giving President Barack Obama sweeping new power to, in effect, unilaterally increase the nation's debt limit to avoid a first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a new plan to allow the president to demand up to $2.4 trillion in new borrowing authority by the summer of next year in three separate submissions. Those increases in the so-called debt limit would automatically take effect unless both the Republican House and the Democratic Senate enact legislation specifically disapproving it.

Obama would be able to veto such legislation.

ddoering
07-12-2011, 16:04
So in effect, Congress would give the power of the purse to the Executive Branch. That makes all 400+ of them surplus employees then. Perhaps cuts are in order.

mark46th
07-12-2011, 16:42
Obama is such an arrogant dick. He thinks we don't know the difference between entitlements and discretionary spending? Does he believe we think that revenue stops flowing into federal coffers if the government doesn't raise the debt ceiling? Unbelievable.

Sigaba
07-12-2011, 16:58
The president will succeed in backing Republicans into a corner because the threat cynically targets their constituents (seniors and veterans).

Is this threat an example of partisan brinksmanship at its worst and of the president at his basest? Or does it represent the president learning from the GOP 1996 playbook (i.e. blame one branch of the government and hope the American people forget it takes two not to tango)?

Surf n Turf
07-12-2011, 17:15
This POS would lie even if the truth would serve him better
SnT

Official Treasury Reports: Coffers Full Enough to Cover Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans, Federal Salaries and Interest—Without Borrowing a Dime
"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Obama told CBS News anchor Scott Pelley in an interview.

However, according to the Daily Treasury Statements published by the U.S. Treasury Department, the ongoing flow of federal tax revenue since the Treasury declared that it had hit the debt limit on May 16 has been more than sufficient to cover the combined costs of federal spending on interest payments, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Veterans Affairs department and federal workers wages and insurance benefits (including wages and insurance benefits for military personnel).http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/official-treasury-reports-coffers-full-e

Dusty
07-12-2011, 17:23
lol It's an unheard-of tactic! :rolleyes::D

Ret10Echo
07-12-2011, 17:54
This POS would lie even if the truth would serve him better
SnT

Official Treasury Reports: Coffers Full Enough to Cover Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans, Federal Salaries and Interest—Without Borrowing a Dime
"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Obama told CBS News anchor Scott Pelley in an interview.



Listening to a telephonic town hall meeting with my elected Representative. He covered this exact point, the emphasis being that if there are no SS, Medicaid or Veteran benefit payments it will be Obama's decision alone as it would go against statements from the Treasury.

Veiled threats, political maneuvering...

Some people live in a world where the lies become their reality. Fill a room full of fellow liars and it is amazing at the level of concurrence that occurs.

steel71
07-13-2011, 00:13
Mitch McConnell is a closet homo like his buddy Lindsey Graham.

ddoering
07-13-2011, 05:08
In principal isnt that what Julius Cesar did to Rome changing it from a republic to an empire?

I hope they compete the job then. I better get my resume and KSAs ready.:lifter