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Paslode
06-23-2011, 16:10
U.S. Jews not able to fly on Delta flights to Saudi Arabia
By Michele Chabin, Religion News Service

JERUSALEM — Jews and Israelis, or passengers carrying any non-Islamic article of faith, will not be able to fly Delta Air Lines flights from the U.S. to Saudi Arabia under Delta's new partnership with Saudi Arabian Airlines. Passengers carrying any non-Islamic article of faith will not be able to fly Delta airlines to Saudi Arabia under Delta's new partnership with Saudi Arabian Airlines.

Although Delta announced in January that the Saudi airline would join its SkyTeam network next year, the implications of the deal only came to light recently, according to people who have scrutinized the details.

Saudi Arabia, which is governed by strict Islamic law, requires citizens of almost every country to obtain a visa. People who wish to enter the country must have a sponsor; women, who must be dressed according to Saudi standards of modesty, must be met at the Saudi airport by a man who will act as a chaperone.

Saudi Arabia bans anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passport from entering the country, even in transit. Many Jews believe the kingdom has also withheld visas from travelers with Jewish-sounding names.

Religious items such as Bibles that are not related to Islam may be confiscated at the airport.

Colby M. May, senior counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative legal group founded by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson, said his office is trying to determine if the agreement runs afoul of U.S. law.

"The very idea that there is a common carrier airline service that would deny an American citizen in America access to their services because they are Jewish or have religious items such as a yarmulke, a cross or a priestly collar, is deeply disturbing," May said.

May said he is "trying to get answers" from Delta.

"They have not responded in a way that answers the question," he said. "Hopefully they'll do so."

In a statement to Religion News Service on Thursday, Delta said it "does not discriminate, nor do we condone discrimination against any protected class of passenger in regards to age, race, nationality, religion, or gender."

The airline, which did not deny the new policy, insisted that it has no control over who may fly to Saudi Arabia.

"Delta must also comply with all applicable laws in every country it serves," adding that passengers are responsible for obtaining the necessary travel documents required for entry.

"If a passenger travels without proper documents, the passenger may be denied entry into that country and our airline may be fined," the statement said.

The Jan. 10 agreement allows Saudi Arabian Airlines to become a member of SkyTeam in 2012 after "fulfilling all membership requirements," according to a SkyTeam statement. The Saudi airline is SkyTeam's first member from the Middle East.

The policy has deeply angered U.S. Jewish groups, especially since Delta is an American carrier.

"Saudi Arabia, a U.S. ally, should be strongly condemned for its despicable discrimination against Jews," said Kenneth Bandler, a spokesman for the New York-based American Jewish Committee.

"For an American company, our nation's values should trump narrow business interests. Delta should be the first to reject Saudi airlines as a SkyTeam member."

Dan Diker, secretary general of the World Jewish Congress, said he hoped "Delta will not be complicit with what appears to be a demonstrably anti-Semitic and racist policy by Saudi Arabian Airlines."

(Jack Jenkins contributed to this report)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-06-23-us-jews-delta-airlines-saudis_n.htm#


At this rate, it won't be long before Delta requires Jewish passengers to wear a gold star that they will receive with their boarding pass.

Box
06-23-2011, 16:48
silly Jewish people...
...making delta airlines look bad.

Almost as bad as those damn soldiers complaining about baggage fees.


Why is everyone demonizing delta airlines?

Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2011, 17:17
The story has been taken down and a message says there was inaccurate information . . .

Paslode
06-23-2011, 17:29
The story has been taken down and a message says there was inaccurate information . . .

Damage control and the spin machine.

Pete
06-23-2011, 17:47
Is this a "what came first the chicken or the egg"" situation.

Is Delta aka Al-Shariah Airline or are they just enforcing "end user" requirements?

What sense would it make for Delta to fly someone into Saudi knowing they will be forced back into the plane and out of country?

A couple of SF Co's did the old switcheroe one time because of names and passport stamps. Does that make the US Army the Al-Shariah Army?

Paslode
06-23-2011, 18:35
Is this a "what came first the chicken or the egg"" situation.

Is Delta aka Al-Shariah Airline or are they just enforcing "end user" requirements?

What sense would it make for Delta to fly someone into Saudi knowing they will be forced back into the plane and out of country?

A couple of SF Co's did the old switcheroe one time because of names and passport stamps. Does that make the US Army the Al-Shariah Army?


You make a valid point, but it feels like submission to Islamic Law....which it is.

However 'IF' the US wasn't so accommodating to countries like Saudi Arabia and enforced our laws (like if we had a Burka Ban, no Qurans, no Prayer Rugs or only allowed them to to bring 1 wife) upon them as they expect of us when visiting their countries I feel better about it.

Richard
06-24-2011, 03:50
Rules of the global market game and non-compliance equates to not being able to play.

If you're entering Israel, you're asked about your travel plans upon entering and if planning on traveling on to any Arab countries, your passport won't be stamped by Israeli customs. A passport-sized slip of paper will be stamped and added for use while in Israel and removed when presenting your passport upon crossing from Israel into Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. as you won't be allowed transit with an Israeli stamp. An exception is when passing into Palestinian territory (e.g., Bethlehem) - thus far bus loads of tourist $$ trumps theistic ideology there.

It is what it is.

Richard :munchin

mark46th
06-24-2011, 19:07
I wonder if the Saudi's are respectful with the confiscated bibles...

Richard
06-24-2011, 20:21
I wonder if the Saudi's are respectful with the confiscated bibles...

Another three months and I'll be out of Koranic verses and have to go back to buying Charmin...

Richard :munchin