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http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/06/04/tea-party-back-any-gop-nominee-including-romney
The Tea Party will support whoever wins the GOP presidential nomination - - even if that person is former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. That's the affirmative word from Tea Party Express chair Amy Kremer.
Kremer told Fox News on Saturday, "whoever the Republican nominee is will have to have the support of the Tea Party movement, the entire Tea Party movement."
Kremer went on to say the Tea Party is "completely neutral," adding that it "just wants to see the cream rise to the top... If Romney is the nominee I believe that we want to defeat Barack Obama."
Her confidence comes while some Tea Partiers, including some at FreedomWorks, a leading voice in the Tea Party movement, set their sights on stopping a Romney nomination.
Kremer also wants to put to rest the idea the Tea Party would support a third party candidate, insisting the Tea Party can work from within the democratic and republican parties.
"There is no way that we are going to support a third party candidate. It would split the vote and it would guarantee reelection for Obama, and we need to crush Obama we have to get him out of the White House," says Kremer.
Kremer also believes the Tea Party movement will have a "massive impact just as we did in 2010."
In fact, she feels the Tea Party and its elected representatives are responsible for the failure of a clean debt ceiling vote in congress this week.
"We are still having an impact here in Washington. I really believe that if it weren't for the Tea Party movement they would already raised the debt ceiling and the spending would continue to be out of control... The democratic party was completely split.
If it wasn't for this movement, I don't think you would have even seen that."
The Tea Party Express is one of the three main Tea Party groups. It began as a cross-country bus tour aimed a rallying supporters.
Interesting...
While I understand that supporting a third party would ultimately help the Obama campaign, I would think that a Tea Party representative would be more apt to verbalize a stance of supporting the candidate that is most closely aligned with their goals.
Defaulting their support to whoever the GOP nominates, hmmm.
Interesting...
While I understand that supporting a third party would ultimately help the Obama campaign, I would think that a Tea Party representative would be more apt to verbalize a stance of supporting the candidate that is most closely aligned with their goals.
Defaulting their support to whoever the GOP nominates, hmmm.
If you found that one interesting:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/164765-howard-dean-warns-palin-could-beat-obama-in-2012
Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman who helped Democrats capture the White House in 2008, warns that Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.
Dean says his fellow Democrats should beware of inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom that Obama would crush Palin in a general-election contest next year.
“I think she could win,” Dean told The Hill in an interview Friday. “She wouldn’t be my first choice if I were a Republican but I think she could win.”
Dean warns the sluggish economy could have more of a political impact than many Washington strategists and pundits assume.
“Any time you have a contest — particularly when unemployment is as high as it is — nobody gets a walkover,” Dean said. “Whoever the Republicans nominate, including people like Sarah Palin, whom the inside-the-Beltway crowd dismisses — my view is if you get the nomination of a major party, you can win the presidency, I don’t care what people write about you inside the Beltway,” Dean said.
Dean spoke to The Hill the same day the Labor Department revealed the national economy added only 54,000 jobs in May and the national unemployment rate had risen to 9.1 percent.
Last month the private sector created 83,000 jobs, about a third the average for the previous three months.
Dean said he doesn’t think Palin will win the GOP nomination or would have the advantage over Obama in 2012. But he warned it is dangerous for Democrats to dismiss her.
“Anybody who gets the nomination could win the presidency,” he said. “Do I think she’s going to get the nomination? No. But that process is so difficult and really tests candidates in ways that no other process can."
Dean knows the rigors of presidential primaries first hand. In 2004, his unconventional campaign briefly put him in contention for the Democratic nod before the eventual winner, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.), pulled away.
“Anybody who survives the process can win the presidency,” he added.
Dean said Republicans made the mistake of underestimating Bill Clinton in the rest of the Democratic field in 1991 when former President George H.W. Bush seemed to have a strong advantage but the economy was still mired in recession.
“I can remember Bill Clinton, I think, was one of the seven dwarfs,” Cain said. “This goes on every four years and I think it’s best not to pay attention to that kind of talk.”
It'll prolly wind up being Romney/Palin as the next Presidential team.
Mitt won't get my vote, he did the precursor to Obama care, he believes in Man Made Global Warming and he has a nice smile.......Mitt is the Caucasian Obama.
Roguish Lawyer
06-05-2011, 11:24
Interesting that anyone believes the "tea party movement" is actually an organized group capable of being promised by supposed leaders. I think that is a bunch of BS.
Mitt won't get my vote, he did the precursor to Obama care, he believes in Man Made Global Warming and he has a nice smile.......Mitt is the Caucasian Obama.
Nor mine. But people are sheeple, and even those who consider themselves 'conservative' and support the Tea Party will follow the Tea Party blindly for the most part.
Interesting that anyone believes the "tea party movement" is actually an organized group capable of being promised by supposed leaders. I think that is a bunch of BS.
Sir, the Tea Party, though not an organized, centralized group, has a huge following. They may surprise you.
So, Paslode, Hand-if it comes down to Obama v. Romney, I understand that since you refuse to vote for Mitt, you'll either vote for Obama or a third party runner (in effect a vote for Obama)...
So, Paslode, Hand-if it comes down to Obama v. Romney, I understand that since you refuse to vote for Mitt, you'll either vote for Obama or a third party runner (in effect a vote for Obama)...
Nope, I'll park my butt at home, watch Soylent Green and drink beer.
If I voted for a 3rd party Candidate it would likely be for no other reason than to stop by the polling station and get my sticker, because I could accomplish the same thing by staying home.
IMO.....Romney is Obama Lite, more of a prolonged death by thousand cuts with a paring knife. Whereas Obama is bringing things to a disastrous culmination in broad strokes of the sword.
The quicker things go to shit, the sooner we can head in a new direction.
Nope, I'll park my butt at home, watch Soylent Green and drink beer.
If I voted for a 3rd party Candidate it would likely be for no other reason than to stop by the polling station and get my sticker, because I could accomplish the same thing by staying home.
IMO.....Romney is Obama Lite, more of a prolonged death by thousand cuts with a paring knife. Whereas Obama is bringing things to a disastrous culmination in broad strokes of the sword.
The quicker things go to shit, the sooner we can head in a new direction.
I respect your opinion, but I find it hard to understand that course of action. To me, an analog would be finding out you had a terminal illness, but opting for letting the disease take its course rather than treat it with chemotherapy, surgery or whatever.
The Reaper
06-05-2011, 12:25
Nope, I'll park my butt at home, watch Soylent Green and drink beer.
If I voted for a 3rd party Candidate it would likely be for no other reason than to stop by the polling station and get my sticker, because I could accomplish the same thing by staying home.
IMO.....Romney is Obama Lite, more of a prolonged death by thousand cuts with a paring knife. Whereas Obama is bringing things to a disastrous culmination in broad strokes of the sword.
The quicker things go to shit, the sooner we can head in a new direction.
I tend to agree.
Stay home and let Obama try to dig his way out of this mess in four more years.
That should put the Dims out of office for a long time.
Maybe long enough for the Repubs to remember what a conservative is.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
06-05-2011, 12:32
Sir, the Tea Party, though not an organized, centralized group, has a huge following. They may surprise you.
Please don't call me "Sir," I work for a living.
I am they. My point is that whoever claims to control the "Tea Party" is full of it. It's not that organized (as you concede), and really is a spontaneous grassroots movement from the bottom up. You get support of the "Tea Party" through policies, not by getting some supposed leader of the movement to deliver the party's support. This ain't no union. :)
Dusty,
Another way of explaining my position:
I will sleep better knowing Obama in office because I know that it is will be uneasy sleep, I always have to have one eye open and when I wake I will be waking to a fight.
Whereas with Mitt, with his Mattel Ken Doll looks and perfect smile, he will likely change things just enough to try and make me feel comfy so I don't pay attention to looming disaster and likely plans to hand the ball off to someone else 4-8 years later.
If Obama stays on course I am still young enough that I can assist my family pick up the pieces from his debacle. Whereas with Romney, the time line gets stretched out and I will be less capable.
And lastly, this game continues as long as you keep playing it and I am done playing.
.......The Tea Party will support whoever wins the GOP presidential nomination - - even if that person is former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney................
The bottom line was up front in this article and I think most read right past it.
Romney and whoever else from the Republican field would just love to have the Tea Party folks endorse or get behind them.
Given that the Tea Party is not a "single voting block" - as much as this this individual said - all that was said was that they/we would support whoever wins and not go third party.
Make you fight in the primary folks.
I tend to agree.
Stay home and let Obama try to dig his way out of this mess in four more years.
TR
Presuming we last that long.
That should put the Dims out of office for a long time.
TR
Maybe, but it might also give them the Supreme Court for even longer.
Pat
Dusty,
And lastly, this game continues as long as you keep playing it and I am done playing.
WTF? Bro, this ain't no fucking game.
WTF? Bro, this ain't no fucking game.
I know. But IMO the majority of both parties behave as though it is a game with Monopoly Money and Get Out of Jail Free Cards. And as long as we support those schmucks with donations and votes we continue the charade or cycle of stupidity.
The majority of the MF'rs in both parties spend more time positioning for re-election and blowing smoke up each others ass than they do watching out for the best interest of the Nation.....that is a game.
I know. But IMO the majority of both parties behave as though it is a game with Monopoly Money and Get Out of Jail Free Cards. And as long as we support those schmucks with donations and votes we continue the charade or cycle of stupidity.
The majority of the MF'rs in both parties spend more time positioning for re-election and blowing smoke up each others ass than they do watching out for the best interest of the Nation.....that is a game.
The political system is cyclical, and it normally rights itself over time, though as free men we lose more and more liberty with each iteration.
We may not even have time for another cycle if the sinking continues through another Demlib term.
This is some serious shit. I personally have trouble listening to or even looking at any pro politician, Romney especially, and don't find any of the Repub candidates very encouraging, unless Christie and Rubio weigh in (Cain being the one exception).
That said, it's still a fact that we are so far worse off since '08, that if you extrapolate the damage thru 2016, you got no Nation left.
Maybe, but it might also give them the Supreme Court for even longer.
Pat
That is the key issue right now. The law is only what the Supreme Court says it is and the Supreme Court does not like to go back and reverse itself.
Five years is a long time to "hope" nothing happens to "your guys".
Get another Wise Latina on the Court and there ain't no telling what "rights" will be found in our laws.
Look for the Tea Party to target a few more RINOs this primary season.
If voters stay at home during the 2012 presidential election they may not only increase the incumbent's chance of re-election but also strengthen his political power if he is re-elected. If too many GOP voters stay home, the incumbent's margin of victory might increase and thus allow him to claim a "mandate from the people" to continue his current policies. Conversely, a narrow margin of victory could send a message for governing from the middle.
I believe that even if you cannot support a presidential candidate, you should consider the option of going to the polls and casting votes for other candidates and on the various issues on the ballot.
My $0.02.
Maybe, but it might also give them the Supreme Court for even longer.
Pat
This is the biggest danger middle America faces.
But if we keep Obama in office, maybe we can get a real progressive on the bench - And the Scott Brown's and Susan Collins really like progressive, activist judges....
If voters stay at home during the 2012 presidential election they may not only increase the incumbent's chance of re-election but also strengthen his political power if he is re-elected. If too many GOP voters stay home, the incumbent's margin of victory might increase and thus allow him to claim a "mandate from the people" to continue his current policies. Conversely, a narrow margin of victory could send a message for governing from the middle.
I believe that even if you cannot support a presidential candidate, you should consider the option of going to the polls and casting votes for other candidates and on the various issues on the ballot.
My $0.02.
Agreed. IMO, if you don't vote...don't bitch. I do not like Romney. I don't trust him any more than I do Obama. OTOH, if Obama is soundly defeated, that may send a message to Romney that he best not try the same crap. If Obama wins, no matter how he wins, he claims validation and carries his agenda farther and faster.
Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman who helped Democrats capture the White House in 2008, warns that Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.
Has Mr. " Dean Scream" also been reading Uncle Remus?
Mitt won't get my vote, he did the precursor to Obama care, he believes in Man Made Global Warming and he has a nice smile.......Mitt is the Caucasian Obama.
Yep so many Americans don't know about his Mass health-care reform he did when he was in office.
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/06/110606fa_fact_lizza#ixzz1Obj755XB
The Political Scene
Romney’s Dilemma
How his greatest achievement has become his biggest liability.
by Ryan Lizza June 6, 2011
ABSTRACT: THE POLITICAL SCENE about Mitt Romney and health-care reform. On April 12, 2006, Governor Mitt Romney, of Massachusetts, signed the most significant bill of his career: a law requiring every citizen in his state to buy health insurance. Romney had accomplished a longtime Democratic goal—universal health insurance—by combining three conservative policies. Massachusetts would help the uninsured buy private insurance; it would create a deregulated online marketplace; and it would require that everyone carry insurance. Although some influential liberals condemned Romney, most conservatives praised the plan. Mentions Robert Moffit, of the Heritage Foundation. Romney, the son of a former Republican governor of Michigan, was a successful management consultant at Bain & Company, where he started in 1978. In 1984, he founded Bain Capital, a private equity firm. He challenged Ted Kennedy in a 1994 Senate race but lost badly. In 1999, he left Bain Capital to serve as C.E.O. for the organizing committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics in Utah. His revival of the scandal-plagued games gave him the reputation of a non-ideological and data-driven problem-solver. Once in office, he quickly saw that health care was one of the biggest data-driven problems that needed solving. Mentions Timothy Murphy, Jonathan Gruber, and Amy Lischko. Describes how Romney came to support an individual mandate. In 2005, Massachusetts senator Ted Kennedy agreed to join Romney in presenting his health-care plan to the Bush Administration. Describes how Romney’s bill got through the Democratic-dominated legislature in Massachusetts. During the 2008 Presidential campaign, Barack Obama did not support a mandate as part of his health-care plan. After he took office, health-care reform became one of his top priorities, and Nancy-Ann DeParle, his top health-care adviser, recommended that he adopt a mandate like the one Romney signed into law. If it were not for Romney, with crucial assistance from the Heritage Foundation and George W. Bush, it’s extremely unlikely that Obama would have passed his universal health-care law last year, although the two laws differ in important ways. The basic architecture, however, is the same. Romney initially thought that his health-care plan would help him politically. But after the election of Obama and the financial crash, the Republican Party swung back dramatically toward the libertarians. By the summer of 2009, even the Heritage Foundation had turned against the health-care mandate. Romney has tried to maintain support for his greatest achievement, while arguing it bears no resemblance to Obama’s national program. Romney’s argument becomes strained, however, when he pronounces that the individual mandate is the ideal solution at the state level but tyrannical when imposed at the federal level. Still, Romney’s real problem is not just that he supported a mandate, but that he showed Democrats the political and procedural path to passing a universal-health-care bill in America.
So, Paslode, Hand-if it comes down to Obama v. Romney, I understand that since you refuse to vote for Mitt, you'll either vote for Obama or a third party runner (in effect a vote for Obama)...
I pray Dusty, that it does not come down to Obama v. Romney. Although I would vote for Romney, if ONLY to get rid of Obama, I would not do so with a smile on my face, nor a spark of hope in my heart. Romney, as MtnGoat has pointed out, has definitely demonstrated a somewhat socialist agenda. IMHO - I am willing to 'see his hand' and discover if there are other agendas there that would further degrade our values as a country. Obama has already demonstrated his agenda. If given no other choices, I would like to see someone else at the helm. I believe that we would not see the pandering to foreign dignitaries nor the incessant drive to expand entitlement programs.
Again, I am NOT a Romney supporter.
The quicker things go to shit, the sooner we can head in a new direction.
I tend to agree.
Stay home and let Obama try to dig his way out of this mess in four more years.
That should put the Dims out of office for a long time.
Maybe long enough for the Repubs to remember what a conservative is.
TR
These statements are disturbing. How different is this from saying "the house is on fire, no sense putting it out. Let it burn down so we can rebuild it"?
Maybe during the time of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, even Abraham Lincoln could the 'house' be constructed again on a foundation of solid principles, ideas that would allow us to continue to grow and prosper as we have given the ideas of the writers of the Declaration and the Constitution.
I am saddened to say that I don't believe that we have men in the proper positions who carry the burden of the ideas of those great men, long dead. I fear that we would start with the mess of today, and build a much less sturdy, much shorter lived 'house'.
If I have incorrectly interpreted your meanings, please explain my error.
Please don't call me "Sir," I work for a living.
I am they. My point is that whoever claims to control the "Tea Party" is full of it. It's not that organized (as you concede), and really is a spontaneous grassroots movement from the bottom up. You get support of the "Tea Party" through policies, not by getting some supposed leader of the movement to deliver the party's support. This ain't no union. :)
No disrespect meant RL. Its an old habit.
The Tea Party is a leaderless movement. I believe the media will try to tell you that such and such is the current 'head', Rush has often been dubbed with this title, as has Hannity etc... At this point in its life though, I think it is too fluid to have a leader. I believe it would be accurate to say that such and such has the 'support' of the Tea Party, but I don't understand how such a movement could have a candidate so to speak.
If voters stay at home during the 2012 presidential election they may not only increase the incumbent's chance of re-election but also strengthen his political power if he is re-elected. If too many GOP voters stay home, the incumbent's margin of victory might increase and thus allow him to claim a "mandate from the people" to continue his current policies. Conversely, a narrow margin of victory could send a message for governing from the middle.
I believe that even if you cannot support a presidential candidate, you should consider the option of going to the polls and casting votes for other candidates and on the various issues on the ballot.
My $0.02.
I completely agree Sigaba. As much as these leaders pay attention to polls and surveys, there will be much to be gleaned from a good voter outcome.
These statements are disturbing. How different is this from saying "the house is on fire, no sense putting it out. Let it burn down so we can rebuild it"?
Maybe during the time of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, even Abraham Lincoln could the 'house' be constructed again on a foundation of solid principles, ideas that would allow us to continue to grow and prosper as we have given the ideas of the writers of the Declaration and the Constitution.
I am saddened to say that I don't believe that we have men in the proper positions who carry the burden of the ideas of those great men, long dead. I fear that we would start with the mess of today, and build a much less sturdy, much shorter lived 'house'.
If I have incorrectly interpreted your meanings, please explain my error.
In regards to a house fire, at some point the risk involved far out weighs the need or possibility of saving the structure and your memoirs inside. In addition in some cases like high winds it is more advantageous to pour on areas surrounding the burning structure so as to limit the spread.
You might consider that sacrifice and cutting your losses .
In our case, we have a out of control prairie fire, the wind is gusting from the Southwest at 40 MPH. A lot of people are betting it will pass, the winds will die or rain will come. But it's time to scorch the earth and corps in front of it, get in the Root Cellar, close your eyes, pray and put yourself in the hands of the lord..
And if you wait too long making up your mind as to what to do, it will be too late for praying.
No matter what the Smoke Screen Artist and Snake Charmers in DC say, we are never going to recover from a 14 plus trillion dollar deficit. It ain't going to happen. It is absolutely impossible when companies Wal*Mart and McDonalds are your largest private employers and the mainstay of industry base is trading paper.
Service based industry produces little. Service, Servant, Slavery.
Selling the wealth of a nation....tangible production
http://www.mineralrightsforum.com/forum/topics/chinese-company-buys-onethird
***UPDATE***
The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.
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The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security. That brings to a record $61.6 trillion the total of financial promises not paid for.
This gap between spending commitments and revenue last year equals more than one-third of the nation's gross domestic product.
Medicare alone took on $1.8 trillion in new liabilities, more than the record deficit prompting heated debate between Congress and the White House over lifting the debt ceiling.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-06-06-us-owes-62-trillion-in-debt_n.htm?loc=interstitialskip
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/26/bachmann-flake-label-is-insulting/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/26/after-new-york-vote-bachmann-suggests-constitutional-amendment-against-gay/
Romeny may be #1 in GOP polls right now, but Bachmann isn't far behind. She may be the right combination of conservative/moderate to reach a larger number of the GOP leaning population in the next year or so. I look forward to seeing how things go in the coming months.
Ms. Bachmann takes umbrage when asked if she's a flake. Yet she's inconsistent on the issue of states' rights and government spending on pet projects. She supports the former--unless the residents of a state disagree with her--and she is opposed to the latter--unless the funds benefit her constituents.:confused:
Ms. Bachmann takes umbrage when asked if she's a flake. Yet she's inconsistent on the issue of states' rights and government spending on pet projects. She supports the former--unless the residents of a state disagree with her--and she is opposed to the latter--unless the funds benefit her constituents.:confused:
Be that as it may-she's not a Democrat. Got that goin' for her. :D
Ms. Bachmann takes umbrage when asked if she's a flake. Yet she's inconsistent on the issue of states' rights and government spending on pet projects. She supports the former--unless the residents of a state disagree with her--and she is opposed to the latter--unless the funds benefit her constituents.:confused:
Name me one democrat who hasn't been inconsistent about much more; who is for state's rights at all; and who isn't the first porker at the trough.
Name me one democrat who hasn't been inconsistent about much more; who is for state's rights at all; and who isn't the first porker at the trough.QP rdet1--
Answers follow--
Consistency see here (http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/112/stats/sponsorshipanalysis_h_large.png).
Democrats supporting states' rights here (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/05/13/4424987-wh-pushes-back-against-dem-proposal).
Pork data are available there (http://www.cagw.org/reports/pig-book/2010/).
Your question indicates that Ms. Bachmann merits support because
She's less inconsistent than Democrats.
She sometimes supports a key tenet of the GOP <<LINK (http://www.gop.com/index.php/issues/what_we_believe/)>>,
She behaves like any other politician when it comes to pork.
IMO, if "At Least We're Not Democrats" is going to be the battle cry of the TPM as we head towards 2012 then the current president isn't going to need those change of address forms until 2016.
QP rdet1--
Answers follow--
Consistency see here (http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/112/stats/sponsorshipanalysis_h_large.png).
Democrats supporting states' rights here (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/05/13/4424987-wh-pushes-back-against-dem-proposal).
Pork data are available there (http://www.cagw.org/reports/pig-book/2010/).
Your question indicates that Ms. Bachmann merits support because
She's less inconsistent than Democrats.
She sometimes supports a key tenet of the GOP <<LINK (http://www.gop.com/index.php/issues/what_we_believe/)>>,
She behaves like any other politician when it comes to pork.
IMO, if "At Least We're Not Democrats" is going to be the battle cry of the TPM as we head towards 2012 then the current president isn't going to need those change of address forms until 2016.
Sigaba,
I couldn't read your first chart, nor find it on govtrack. As far as the pork, according to the pig book for 2010 dems accounted for 5070 records for a total of $5B+. Repubs accounted for 2207 records for a total of $2.6B+ (about half of dems). Independents accounted for a mere 32 records for a measly $13M+. As for the article you posted, it only mentioned 4 dems by name. The rest it referred to as centrists. I haven't seen too many of those lately.
I am suggesting Bachmann might be a consideration because she makes a good case without a teleprompter and appears to have some good ideas. It is still early in the game, but the cream (as far as politicians go) will rise to the top.
Sigaba,
I couldn't read your first chart, nor find it on govtrack. As far as the pork, according to the pig book for 2010 dems accounted for 5070 records for a total of $5B+. Repubs accounted for 2207 records for a total of $2.6B+ (about half of dems). Independents accounted for a mere 32 records for a measly $13M+. As for the article you posted, it only mentioned 4 dems by name. The rest it referred to as centrists. I haven't seen too many of those lately.
I am suggesting Bachmann might be a consideration because she makes a good case without a teleprompter and appears to have some good ideas. It is still early in the game, but the cream (as far as politicians go) will rise to the top.QP rdret1--
Here's the chart as a PDF.
In regards to Ms. Bachmann and her ideas, I see your point.
FWIW, my own personal preference is for people who are already in elected office to demonstrate that they can translate their good ideas into solutions that work and to do so in a way that shows they can "play well with others."