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Richard
06-03-2011, 04:36
Election season ME style - personally, I think I prefer our typical 'war of words' style of electioneering.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Yemen Deploys US-trained Special Forces
FT, 2 Jun 2011

Yemen’s president has escalated his fight for survival by deploying US-trained special forces against an opposition-affiliated tribal leader as gun battles and shelling inflicted more damage on the capital, Sana’a.

Amid intensifying concerns of full blown civil war, a government spokesman, Tareq al-Shami, confirmed that the counterterrorism unit of the Central Security Forces had been deployed. The US spends millions of dollars each year on the unit, with the aim of combating the Yemeni branch of al-Qaeda.

Forces loyal to the president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, have been battling with tribal fighters after he backed away from a deal to step down in the face of months of peaceful pro-democracy protests in the Arab world’s most impoverished state. Mr Saleh turned his guns on fighters loyal to Sadeq al-Ahmar, head of the powerful Hashed tribal confederation in violence that has killed 135 people over the past 10 days.

While Yemeni soldiers also fired on protesters in the southern city of Taiz, Mr Saleh has withdrawn troops from the coastal city of Zinjibar where Islamist militants have been active, in what his opponents claim is a strategy to increase international concern about al-Qaeda benefiting from his departure.

The use of US-trained forces in a domestic political dispute will heighten alarm in Washington, which has sent John Brennan, Barack Obama’s point man on Yemen and senior counterterrorism adviser to the president, to the region this week.

The White House said Mr Brennan was meeting officials in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates “to see what can be done” to persuade Mr Saleh to step down.

“We continue to evaluate the circumstances related to reports that US-trained forces are engaged in fighting against armed factions tied to the al-Ahmar family,” said a spokesman.

He added that Washington still lacked evidence that any US trained units had been used in crowd control or against peaceful protesters.

“We have repeatedly made clear to Yemeni officials that counterterrorism forces trained with US support or US provided equipment were not to be used against protesters,” the spokesman said. “As with every country, we are regularly evaluating our assistance to ensure it is being used appropriately.”

Mr Shami insisted that the use of counterterrorism forces was legitimate. “They [the forces] are meant to combat terrorism, and that’s what these clashes represent,” he said.

The use of the forces underlines the extent to which Mr Saleh remains focused on short term political survival, regardless of the consequences.

Mr Saleh has alienated Gulf neighbours, including Saudi Arabia, by promising but then refusing to sign a deal on a transition of power which would have seen him step down within a month in return for immunity from prosecution.

He escalated fighting with the Ahmar family, which had sided with the uprising, apparently counting on them not receiving support from the rest of the Hashid tribe or from renegade military commander Ali Mohsen, whose first armoured division is deployed in Sana’a.

“The regime would prefer a civil war to a peaceful revolution,” said Muhammad al-Kiyami, a protester at the sit-in encampment in the capital.

“These clashes divert attention away from our activities and endanger our movement.”

Gregory Johnsen, an expert on Yemen, said Mr Saleh thinks he can beat the Ahmars, clear up the squares full of protesters, then call for elections that might give him renewed legitimacy.

“Saleh survived for 32 years in power and his back is against the wall so he seems to think that with the air force and troops loyal to him he has another chance,” he said. “Whether it’s a mistaken calculation or not remains to be seen.”

A diplomat in Sana’a said while time-buying tactics had worked in the past Yemen was now weeks away from economic collapse.

If Mr Saleh was forced from power in the chaos, he risked being reduced from the status of a president able to negotiate immunity to “a gang leader”.

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mark46th
06-03-2011, 23:21
Saleh may not be the nicest of guys but he is ours. I still have reservations of these uprisings in the Middle East. At this point, we should be helping Saleh. The only other ones I know we should be helping are the Syrians. If we can influence Syria enough to install a pro-West government, it would deal a big blow to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas...

wet dog
06-04-2011, 00:31
Saleh may not be the nicest of guys but he is ours. I still have reservations of these uprisings in the Middle East. At this point, we should be helping Saleh. The only other ones I know we should be helping are the Syrians. If we can influence Syria enough to install a pro-West government, it would deal a big blow to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas...

That makes the most sense I've heard in a long time. The ME is getting me confused. I continue to employ the search button myself, but filtering the 'crap' is exhaustive and MSM is too misleading. My office is taking on the looks of a S3/S2 library.

How do you see Jordan and Lebanon weighing in on westernizing other elements of the ME? Two countries that have seen increased capitalism, better economies of trade and more religious diversity since the mid 80's.

Could we have more allies in the ME than we think we have?

mark46th
06-04-2011, 22:25
Jordan seems to be pro-West. King Abdullah was educated in Massachusets before going to Oxford and Sandhurst in Great Britain. His government has opened up trade and seems to be fairly benevolent to the population. His wife is a Palestinian but I haven't heard anything about her pushing the Palestinian cause. I would do everything I could to protect him at this time...

Susa
06-05-2011, 01:08
Jordan seems to be pro-West. King Abdullah was educated in Massachusets before going to Oxford and Sandhurst in Great Britain. His government has opened up trade and seems to be fairly benevolent to the population. His wife is a Palestinian but I haven't heard anything about her pushing the Palestinian cause. I would do everything I could to protect him at this time...

If I may add that King Abdullah's "step-mother", Queen Noor was an American until she became Queen and her father was head of the FAA under Kennedy.

Almualla
06-05-2011, 03:04
Jordan seems to be pro-West. King Abdullah was educated in Massachusets before going to Oxford and Sandhurst in Great Britain. His government has opened up trade and seems to be fairly benevolent to the population. His wife is a Palestinian but I haven't heard anything about her pushing the Palestinian cause. I would do everything I could to protect him at this time...

Despite blue eyes Abdullah is a big asset to us, yet he lost the touch with the main `Gaba`ael ( Tribes ) mainly the South, Ma`an coms to mind, Al Karak, and Al Tafelah.

Just recently a Journalist who was jailed (released after a massive protest, and a pardon from Abdullah), for voicing his opinion about re-ensating King Abdullahs brother Prince Hamza ( who is popular within Jordanian ), instead of his son Hussein Jr.( who is half Jordanian, and half Palestinian) to be second in line ,which that issue is still fresh in the minds of Jordanians minds after his dad late King Hussein wishes to have Hamza second in line, yet Abdullah turned his dads wishes down and had his son instead. And as an extra insider Prince Ali by the Jordanian law SHOULD had been the next king, he is from booth Muslim, and Arabic parents ( King Hussein, and Queen `Alya who died in a mysterious plan accident) . But as known within the jordanian "saloons" that a plot was made by "Princess" Muna , King Abdullahs mother who refused to convert to Islam thats why no queen tittle !! to have rumors about Prince Hamza being a drug addict which will keep away from the throne, and the cheap deal by Abdullah his half sister, and Prince Hamza full sister Princess Haya married away to a rich gulf prince, and who she also the daughter of late Princess `Alya )

Yet I do see Abdullah staying on the thorn is a big benefit to us, and the ME , but he needs to reconnect and re engage with the people.

The recently protests that called for the Prime Minster to step down, the call for more press freedom, and to fix the corruption within the government.

King Abdullah need to understand that even though he brought much advancements and lifted Jordan statues within the ME countries, that the people have pride in their Tripes, that he need to work with.Paying attention to the top post in the government, and in the royal palace it is important to use jordanian for such posts (Hearts and minds) it worked with King Hussain .

Freedom of speech is still a scary situation in Jordan, you can speak your mind, but not about the king , any one in the royal family, the government, lower and upper house, and the policies they plan, and make.

King Abdullah instated the Darak, which is a very loyal Cav. police force that was used back in his grandparent Abdullah 1 time . That forces used recently to kill the uprise
in the south , and few Jordanian cities, especially the Khoboz Intifada ( Bread Intifada) in Ma`an when the government raised the prices on necessity food items in that intifada they even used the army.

One corrupted businessman Khaled Shaheen who was let lose after being indicted in Jordan, which the people saw as double standard from the government treating its citizen is still a hot issue right now .

Again king Abdullah have a golden chance to win the hearts and minds of his people, reconnect with them, stop his wife spending lavishly, enforce a true freedom of speech, Muslim Brotherhood is legal to operate in Jordan , keep an open mind toward them and all opposition parties, which a big resistant movement is here in Washington DC .
Close down Mahkamet `Amin Al Daola which is a Military Court that can prosecute normal citizen, and mostly Islamist . And take lessons from whats happening around him, after all thats the only way for King Abdullah to enjoy Lake Tahoe Biking trips that he love, and vegas nights that he supports ...

TheShark
10-13-2011, 20:20
Jordan seems to be pro-West. King Abdullah was educated in Massachusets before going to Oxford and Sandhurst in Great Britain. His government has opened up trade and seems to be fairly benevolent to the population. His wife is a Palestinian but I haven't heard anything about her pushing the Palestinian cause. I would do everything I could to protect him at this time...

He is also married to an american, im sure pussy power helps us

SF-TX
10-13-2011, 20:47
He is also married to an american, im sure pussy power helps us

That is quite the introductory post. No bio and FTFSI. Rucksack in the Hall in one post?

Surgicalcric
10-13-2011, 21:19
He is also married to an american, im sure pussy power helps us

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