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Joey Boots Harassed, Detained And Cited After Photographing Armed Soldier
http://www.pixiq.com/article/joey-boots-harassed-detained-cited-after-photographing-solider
OK, somebody clue me in. A citizen sees armed soldiers in a public placeand starts to take pictures - of course Officer Friendly and Officer Helpful are soon on the spot to calm things down.
".............................At one point, Boots states that there are six cops and soldiers surrounding him.
The cops then spend the next few minutes contacting their supervisors to see what law Boots violated when he videotaped the soldier.
When they discovered that he had broken no law, they issued him a citation for interfering with traffic, even though that was never brought up the entire time they were harassing him for taking photos."
I do understand that NG troops are stationed at some high traffic points - but no pictures. The guards at Buckingham Palace let you take pictures.
Prolly a movie, NCIS, something like that.
With a name like Joey Boots. Shoot on sight:D
Maybe B. Hussein Obama felt limited non-kinetic negation of the posse comitatus act was in order and didn't feel Congress needed notification.
Team Sergeant
05-26-2011, 19:17
Good work Joey Boots, you've got some serious law enforcement issues in NYC.
We are a Nation of spineless cowards.
Team Sergeant
Joey Boots Harassed, Detained And Cited After Photographing Armed Soldier
Videographer provocateur Joey Boots was detained, harassed and eventually ticketed for taking pictures of armed soldiers inside Penn Station in New York City Wednesday.
Boots, who regularly posts entertaining and sometimes confrontational videos of New York City life, including the video of the teenage ballerina in Times Square last year, was cited for interfering with traffic.
But only after Metropolitan Transportation Authority police discovered that photography inside subway stations was not illegal.
It all starts at 1:40 in the video when Boots is attempting to videotape armed soldiers standing near the entrance to the subway station.
A pair of MTA cops confront Boots, calling him a “creep” and accusing him of “harassing” the soldiers.
Then an MTA cop orders Boots to place his camera inside his pocket because it could be a weapon – as if that order would make sense even if he was carrying a weapon.
That exchange takes place at 2:10 in the video when an MTA officer who sounds like Joe Pesci can be heard saying:
“Don’t point that camera at me again I don’t know if it’s a real camera or not … put that thing back in your pocket.”
The video goes dark for the next several minutes because Boots followed his orders, but we can hear the cops trying to give him a guilt trip because he dared videotape soldiers against their wishes, telling him he has no respect for the military.
Boots, who happens to be a veteran himself, spending six years in the army, including a year in Bosnia, told them they had no respect for the law.
At 4:55, Boots pulls the camera out of his pocket, only for the cop to order him to stick the camera back in his pocket again.
At one point, Boots states that there are six cops and soldiers surrounding him.
The cops then spend the next few minutes contacting their supervisors to see what law Boots violated when he videotaped the soldier.
When they discovered that he had broken no law, they issued him a citation for interfering with traffic, even though that was never brought up the entire time they were harassing him for taking photos.
http://www.pixiq.com/article/joey-boots-harassed-detained-cited-after-photographing-solider
Are we sure this wasn't some "Late Show" or "Saturday Night Live" skit? That just sounds stupid!
Texas_Shooter
05-26-2011, 22:46
The cops then spend the next few minutes contacting their supervisors to see what law Boots violated when he videotaped the soldier.
This is the funniest part, they have to contact their supervisor, another reason why MTA cops are no good.
To the soldier though that did not want to be photographed:
Stop having a bad day and let the bystanders take pictures of you looking pretty.
MTA Officers Detain Man For Taking Pictures
Christopher Fussell
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/mta-officers-detain-man-for-taking-pictures/
"BALTIMORE (WJZ) — The Maryland Transit Administration says more training may be called for after three MTA officers detained a man for taking pictures at a light rail station. Pat Warren has more on the incident.
According to the ACLU, this isn’t the first time MTA police have overstepped their bounds.
In a Youtube posting, Christopher Fussell left the camera rolling when he was confronted by three MTA officers for taking pictures at the Baltimore Cultural Light Rail Station................"
DJ Urbanovsky
06-02-2011, 09:59
This must be the new America.
There are signs all over those stations. Clearly saying do not take pictures or video of any type of security measures.
There are signs all over those stations. Clearly saying do not take pictures or video of any type of security measures.
Nothing mentioned about that in this NYPD Operations Order.
http://craphound.com/images/operationsorderinvestigationofindividualsengagedin suspiciousphotographyandvideosurveillance.jpg
Just to be clear we have two cities in this thread now. NYC and Baltimore.
WCH's order is for New York. I would assume Baltimore has someting similar since what Fussell did was not illegal.
Team Sergeant
06-02-2011, 16:35
There are signs all over those stations. Clearly saying do not take pictures or video of any type of security measures.
Please tell me what "law" or "authority" those signs fall under?:munchin
Let's give up some more Freedoms......
AngelsSix
06-02-2011, 21:01
Please tell me what "law" or "authority" those signs fall under?:munchin
Let's give up some more Freedoms......
http://www.mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm
Notice that it says "rules", not "laws", BIG DIFFERENCE!!
Section 1050.9
Restricted areas and activities.
(This is just a portion of the section posted for brevity and what applies to this thread topic)
Photography, filming or video recording in any facility or conveyance is permitted except that ancillary equipment such as lights, reflectors or tripods may not be used. Members of the press holding valid identification issued by the New York City Police Department are hereby authorized to use necessary ancillary equipment. All photographic activity must be conducted in accordance with the provisions of this Part.