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The "War on Cops" that isn't
http://reason.com/archives/2011/04/26/the-war-on-cops-that-isnt
An interesting article that touches on a number of issues.
"Despite what you may have read, it's safer to be a police officer today than it has been in 35 years........................"
One link to a table of figures
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.html
I notice Auto and Motorcycle each have their own sections on the table - plus struck by auto.
Pete - the first article only compares january of 2010 to january of 2009. The second article leaves out the entire year of 2010 AND 2011.
You can't go almost an entire day without hearing of a cop being shot. I wouldn't buy into the "safe" argument. The flames of racial division in this country are being fanned by the current white house occupant. I believe that has a LOT to do with the anti-authority incidents rising.
"Where be Obama's stash an shiii".
Pete - the first article only compares january of 2010 to january of 2009. The second article leaves out the entire year of 2010 AND 2011.
You can't go almost an entire day without hearing of a cop being shot. I wouldn't buy into the "safe" argument. The flames of racial division in this country are being fanned by the current white house occupant. I believe that has a LOT to do with the anti-authority incidents rising.
"Where be Obama's stash an shiii".
Do you have access to updated tables? Those were the best that I could find offhand.
I did find this story - Why police officer deaths rose 37 percent in 2010 -
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2010/1228/Why-police-officer-deaths-rose-37-percent-in-2010
But in that 37% increase half were car accidents.
Chris Cram
04-26-2011, 16:31
War or not… the numbers do seem to be higher in our neighborhood.
Now, several of the shooters do seem to be nuts…
Deadly year for police: Oregon one of 13 states to lose two or more officers already this year
A Washington-D.C. think-tank for big-city police departments will hold its 2011 annual meeting this week in Seattle, with a session called "Shooting of Police Officers."
With Friday's shooting death of Eugene motorcycle Officer Chris Kilcullen still raw -- the first Eugene cop killed in the line of duty since 1934 -- Eugene Chief Peter Kerns on Monday politely told the organizers he could not attend.
"You have something going on in the Northwest. From my perspective, it's a disproportionate increase in officer shootings," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, which is sponsoring the Seattle summit. "That's why we're having this session this week in Seattle."
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/04/deadly_year_for_police_oregon_one_of_13_states_to_ lose_two_or_more_officers_in_first_quarter.html
The Reaper
04-26-2011, 16:33
War or not… the numbers do seem to be higher in our neighborhood.
Now, several of the shooters do seem to be nuts…
"You have something going on in the Northwest. From my perspective, it's a disproportionate increase in officer shootings," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, which is sponsoring the Seattle summit. "That's why we're having this session this week in Seattle."
Home of liberals, hippies, and anarchists.
TR
Bill Harsey
04-27-2011, 08:31
Home of liberals, hippies, and anarchists.
TR
TR,
Those are the carpetbaggers and there are too many.
This was the home of ranchers, farmers, loggers, mill workers, ship builders, fisherman plus all other pretty hard working support industries and personnel.
There is still some of the above listed remaining here.
Rest in Peace Officer Chris Kilcullen (Eugene, Oregon)
Do you have access to updated tables? Those were the best that I could find offhand.
I did find this story - Why police officer deaths rose 37 percent in 2010 -
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2010/1228/Why-police-officer-deaths-rose-37-percent-in-2010
But in that 37% increase half were car accidents.
With limited time to search... http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html this is a reputable organization. IIRC, I mentioned previously here that the high water mark for LOD deaths was 1973 @ 268 officers killed. I do not have the time to look deeper so I did not break down the manner of death. Statistically speaking operating a vehilce is the most dangerous thing most officers will ever do.
I think the 24 hour news cycle just brings more public awareness to P/O deaths.
Bad Tolz
04-27-2011, 10:53
A perspective from an FOG policeman...
I started with L.A.P.D. in 1969 and am still an officer (Northwest 30+ years).
In the 60's and 70's we were targeted by militant groups for assassination (Weather Underground, Panthers, Nation of Islam, etc).
In the 80's, drugs funded more and better weaponry for the gangs against us.
What appears to be occurring now is not a "war", but random, violent (and frequent) encounters with the police. Often, the crooks are carrying to protect themselves from competing crooks, or to assault/rob a victim. "Suicide by Cop" is another dynamic that has forced us into unwanted gunfights. It was almost unheard of when I started.
The fact is undeniable we are dealing with more mentally disturbed people now.
Fortunately, police are better trained and equipped today. Patrol rifles, body armor and semi pistols are the norm. Police work still attracts combat vets who will always bring experience to a gunfight.
What effect do you think the "three strike" laws have had?
What effect do you think the "three strike" laws have had?
Usually, you have to sit down and its someone's turn to bat.
Here, there is no three strikes law enforced at any time - period.
Chris Cram
04-27-2011, 15:42
TR,
Those are the carpetbaggers and there are too many.
This was the home of ranchers, farmers, loggers, mill workers, ship builders, fisherman plus all other pretty hard working support industries and personnel.
There is still some of the above listed remaining here.
Rest in Peace Officer Chris Kilcullen (Eugene, Oregon)
Thank you Mr. Harsey…
When you’re neck deep in the mud, it sometimes seems that the whole State is a mud hole.
It’s good to be reminded that it is otherwise.
1/5/11 – Rest in Peace Police Chief Ralph Painter (Rainer, Oregon)
1/24/11 - Officer Steven Dodds (Lincoln City, Oregon), may he recover quickly.