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Wiseman
02-18-2011, 14:33
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110218/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_iranian_warships

Well looks like this is something Israel will have to deal with in the near future but I do wonder what is being transported in the supply vessel. In the article they do state that they were inspected for anything illegal but how easy is it to bribe the customs there?

Paslode
02-18-2011, 15:09
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110218/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_iranian_warships

Well looks like this is something Israel will have to deal with in the near future but I do wonder what is being transported in the supply vessel. In the article they do state that they were inspected for anything illegal but how easy is it to bribe the customs there?


It could get more interesting, and if the canal were to be blocked or restricted we all might have to deal with it at the gas pump.

silentreader
02-18-2011, 15:24
It could get more interesting, and if the canal were to be blocked or restricted we all might have to deal with it at the gas pump.

Gas prices shouldn't be effected too much by the Suez. Here's a good summary of Egypt and energy. (http://www.iea.org/files/facts_egypt.pdf)



Facts on Egypt: oil and gas
Suez Canal
Oil
The Suez Canal used to be a major choke point for crude oil coming from the Middle East destined for Europe and the US. Two major incidents come to mind: 1956 and 1967 (until 1975), when shipment through the Suez Canal was completely blocked. At those times, almost 10% of global crude oil supply was trafficking through the Suez Canal. The introduction of Very Large Crude Carriers (VLCCs) changed the picture dramatically. VLCCs are too large for the Suez Canal, but thanks to their size, VLCCs made shipments around the African Cape competitive with shipments through the Suez Canal. Nowadays less than 1% of global crude oil
supply is shipped through the Canal. The Suez Canal is a two-way street: crude oil and oil products are shipped in both directions: north to the Mediterranean and south to the Red Sea. The flows almost balance: some 55% of total shipped oil is Northbound and 45% is Southbound.
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It's worth checking out the link. The paper continues, but it doesn't copy and paste well.

Dusty
02-18-2011, 15:52
Israel will not play around over this crap.

Wiseman
02-18-2011, 16:00
Dusty,

Are you predicting that something will happen to those ships? I don't know if Israel would start a war over two ships.

Dusty
02-18-2011, 16:52
Dusty,

Are you predicting that something will happen to those ships? I don't know if Israel would start a war over two ships.

If they did, it wouldn't be just the threat of two ships coming across.

The IDF kicked Egyptian ass so bad they've walked funny ever since. The Tuts have never gotten over the shame of their soldiers removing their boots to run away faster in '56; if not for Ike, the Israelis would probably still be in the Sinai. What was that war over?

What I'm saying is, the Israelis don't take a lot of crap off anyone, and the only reason they've been so tolerant of late is because we've had White Houses with whom they were amenable.

They know Iran for what she is-Israel's abject enemy.

Now, they're to be rebuked and stranded by their former ally, and they don't give a flip what Obama may think, IMO.

Wiseman
02-18-2011, 16:59
I think that maybe this is just done so people focus on Israel and it's potential reactions as a way of removing eyes of the media at the attempted protests in Iran.

Dusty
02-18-2011, 17:03
I think that maybe this is just done so people focus on Israel and it's potential reactions as a way of removing eyes of the media at the attempted protests in Iran.

Oh, they'll focus on Israel all right.

incarcerated
02-20-2011, 03:24
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/19/us-egypt-iran-canal-idUSTRE71I3QW20110219

Iran naval ships to cross Suez Canal on Monday

CAIRO | Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39pm EST
CAIRO (Reuters) - Two Iranian naval ships will sail through the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean on Monday, a Suez Canal official said, in what will be the first passage of Iranian naval ships through the canal since 1979....

Dusty
02-20-2011, 07:55
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/19/us-egypt-iran-canal-idUSTRE71I3QW20110219

Iran naval ships to cross Suez Canal on Monday

CAIRO | Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39pm EST
CAIRO (Reuters) - Two Iranian naval ships will sail through the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean on Monday, a Suez Canal official said, in what will be the first passage of Iranian naval ships through the canal since 1979....

Good chance of fireworks in a day or two.

Richard
02-20-2011, 08:07
Let the Somali's know there are some easy pickings heading their way. ;)

Richard :munchin

Ambush Master
02-20-2011, 08:40
Let the Somali's know there are some easy pickings heading their way. ;)

Richard :munchin

Now THAT would be Funny, except that I'd rather the pirates stayed in dingys/w small arms and not on warships!!

Dusty
02-20-2011, 09:07
Will the IDF nuke an Iranian warship if it has innocent Somali pirates aboard?

Richard
02-20-2011, 09:44
Will the IDF nuke an Iranian warship if it has innocent Somali pirates aboard?

Doubtful...but a 'third flagged' Silkworm or two might be warming up in the ol' ME bull pen. ;)

Richard :munchin

Sigaba
02-20-2011, 10:00
I can't help but think of Pavel Andreievich Chekov trying to communicate the presence of Iranian vessels in the Suez Canal to his fellow officers at Starfleet.

Dusty
02-20-2011, 13:03
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-says-its-warships-completed-suez-canal-crossing-1.344542?localLinksEnabled=false

Pete
02-20-2011, 17:11
From the story

"..........The Israel Navy is prepared in case the Iranian ships make a move toward the Israeli coastline, though the chances of that happening are at this point believed to be slim. "

lindy
02-20-2011, 17:18
From the story

"..........The Israel Navy is prepared in case the Iranian ships make a move toward the Israeli coastline, though the chances of that happening are at this point believed to be slim. "


How are they going to get to Syria? Assuming they're heading to Tartus, wouldn't one exit the "ditch" then hang a right?

Pete
02-20-2011, 17:35
How are they going to get to Syria? Assuming they're heading to Tartus, wouldn't one exit the "ditch" then hang a right?

Go north to Cyprus and hang a right.

The Reaper
02-20-2011, 19:05
Maybe they should review the AAR from the USS Liberty.

TR

incarcerated
02-22-2011, 01:58
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110222-700032.html

Two Iranian Navy Ships Enter Suez Canal - Canal Authority Official

FEBRUARY 22, 2011, 12:24 A.M. ET
CAIRO (AFP)--Two Iranian naval ships entered the Suez Canal on Tuesday, a canal source said, en route to Syria on a purported training mission that Israel regards as a provocation.

"The two ships entered the Canal on Tuesday at around 5:45 a.m. (0335 GMT), the official said.

They were the first Iranian warships through Suez since the 1979 Islamic revolution, and are reportedly bound for Syria, a destination that necessarily involves passing Israel.

Egypt's official MENA news agency has reported that the request for the ships to transit the canal said they were not carrying weapons or nuclear and chemical materials.