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steel_eel
02-09-2011, 12:05
I searched here and utilized my google-fu, and found no resolve.
Could someone explain this to me? Are they referring to SGLI?
PROMISES, PROMISES: 'Widows' tax' lingers-AP
(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gJXZv_BQTK4KAywfWKezJ55brrvw?docId=64c1d71c1 3984e5e82b105657aecb332)
The whole of it seems a bit ridiculous, but that might be due to my lack of understanding...
Color me confused:confused: I still don't understand after re reading the article 3 times.
Are they referring to SGLI benefits?
It doesn't sruprise me congress could screw this up. This brought to you by the clowns that passed the law giving ex-spouses rights to portions of retirement.
1stindoor
02-09-2011, 15:06
The more I've learned the more confused and irritated I've become.
The widows' tax is a law that won't allow surviving spouses to receive the retirement pay due them when their spouse died from a cause related to military service, and at the same time collect the full annuity - essentially an insurance policy most of their spouses opted to buy. They paid an average of 6.5 percent of their retirement pay in premiums, often $100 or more a month.
Because one benefit is subtracted from the other, affected surviving spouses lose about $1,000 a month on average. There are about 54,000 survivors who are affected by the policy, whose spouses served in conflicts from World War II to Afghanistan, and that number could grow.
The widows say politicians have promised time and time again to help them, but they don't.
Part of the problem is the cost. Eliminating the offset in benefits is expensive, said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., who has been the widows' longtime ally. Making good on the promise would cost $6.7 billion over a decade.
http://www.military.com/news/article/the-fight-to-end-the-widows-tax.html
The “widow’s tax” is a government policy that refuses widows of veterans who died from a military service related cause to collect:
Military survivor’s benefits (retirement pay); and The full annuity (basically an insurance policy) purchased when their military spouses were alive.
The Senate has voted to eliminate this “tax” every year since 2005, but at the last minute every year the bill ends up being written in private, and both the House and Senate drop the vote. The widows lobbying for the abolition of the “tax” are told every year there is no funding for them. There are approximately 54,000 survivors being affected by the policy, and with the ongoing current wars, that number is growing.
Politicians, however, keep promising they will help. The widows continue to find politicians to champion their cause at least in the short term, and they are always left flat in the end. Both Nancy Pelosi and President Obama, while still an Illinois Senator, took up the cause and promised to help the widows. Neither one of them have taken any steps to follow through with their promise.
Congress could help the widows, but it would take a massive vote. In the very least, the widows would like to see enough politicians with enough political will to promote this issue to the level on which it deserves to be recognized. Congress did take action in 2008 and granted survivors $50 more per month than what they were receiving and the widows consider that somewhat of a victory.
Perhaps one day Congress will see that taking care of the families of dead soldiers sent to defend this country as enough of a priority to take action. The widows have amassed 300 co-sponsors for their legislation in the House and at least 50 in the Senate. Now it is just a waiting game to see if Congress will pass it into law.
Learn more about the widow’s tax and its progression through Congress.
http://www.theveteransblog.org/blog/?tag=widows-tax
The Reaper
02-09-2011, 15:19
SBP and some other pay, probably Social Security. As a retiree, your survivor's SBP is reduced by an amount equal to the Social Security payments they have to start taking at age 65, so there is no net benefit increase.
Not sure which programs they are addressing here, but it seems to be a mix of AD and retired widows.
IIRC, if you die on AD, your spouse gets paid as if you had SBP. Despite what the court says, your retirement, is just that, not your spouse's. Your widow is not entitled to any part of your retirement. If you want your spouse to have a certain amount of money after you are gone, take out SBP and life insurance in that amount.
Frankly, I don't think this is a great time to be asking for additional benefits.
TR
1stindoor
02-09-2011, 15:40
Frankly, I don't think this is a great time to be asking for additional benefits.
TR
I agree on that point. We're pretty stretched thin budget-wise, I think the timing of the article is tied to the timing of all of the budget talks currently going on.