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I don't really give a shit if you agree or disagree with abortion but this dude deserves the harshest punishment available. Maybe they'll do to him what he did to the babies..
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/19/philadelphia-abortion-doctor-charged-counts-murder/
An abortion doctor who catered to minorities, immigrants and poor women was charged with eight counts of murder in the deaths of a patient and seven babies who were born alive and then killed with scissors, prosecutors said Wednesday.
Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 69, made millions of dollars over 30 years, performing as many illegal, late-term abortions as he could, prosecutors said. State regulators ignored complaints about him and failed to visit or inspect his clinic since 1993, but no charges were warranted against them, District Attorney Seth Williams said.
Gosnell, his wife and eight other colleagues were arrested overnight Tuesday following a grand jury investigation, MyFoxPhilly.com reports.
According to the district attorney's office, Gosnell is facing murder in the third degree for the death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar. The patient died Nov. 20, 2009, when she was overdosed with anesthetics prescribed by Gosnell, according to the station.
Williams said during a press conference Wednesday that Gosnell "induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord."
The district attorney also said patients were subjected to squalid and barbaric conditions at Gosnell's Women's Medical Society.
Authorities went to investigate drug-related complaints at the clinic last year and stumbled on what Williams called a "house of horrors."
"There were bags and bottles holding aborted fetuses scattered throughout the building," Williams said. "There were jars, lining shelves, with severed feet that he kept for no medical purpose."
The clinic was shut down and Gosnell's medical license was suspended after the raid.
Workers, some of whom were also charged with murder, were untrained and unlicensed, including a high-school student who performed anesthesia with potentially lethal narcotics, Williams said.
Gosnell has been named in at least 10 malpractice suits, including one over the death of a woman who died of sepsis and a perforated uterus.
"I am aware that abortion is a hot-button topic," Williams told reporters. "But as district attorney, my job is to carry out the law. A doctor who knowingly and systematically mistreats female patients, to the point that one of them dies in his so-called care, commits murder under the law."
bandycpa
01-19-2011, 13:41
I don't even know how to respond to this. Just pure outrage! :mad:
MD - Mentally Deranged...but it would make a typical script for a Criminal Minds episode.
Richard :munchin
It's amazing that from what I read and the way the office was labeled as being a house of horrors, it took a narcotics complaint to begin the investigation. To me, the fact that there were 10 malpractice lawsuits filed against him and his practice, that should have warranted some type of unannounced visits by the medical ethics board or something along those lines.
Raine_n_Roses
01-19-2011, 14:57
:eek: :mad:
I hope they kill the bastard and he burns in hell. :mad:
SouthernDZ
01-19-2011, 15:15
By the end of the day, MSNBC will be blaming this guy's actions on Sarah Palin.
PedOncoDoc
01-19-2011, 15:29
Infuriating, disgusting and unforgiveable (not to mention tragic for those little ones). :mad::mad::mad:
May this bastard meet stern justice and rot in hell.
doctom54
01-19-2011, 16:04
I agree this is NOT about abortion.
However, a grand jury can charge anyone.
I wouldn't rush to judgement. If he really was this blatant about killing babies I would hope someone would have done something sooner.
Red Flag 1
01-19-2011, 17:07
Infuriating, disgusting and unforgiveable (not to mention tragic for those little ones). :mad::mad::mad:
May this bastard meet stern justice and rot in hell.
Agreed!!!!
There is just so much wrong here. I am stunned that this pos was able to get away with this for 30 years. Those who worked for gosnell and drew a salary should be hammered along with his sorry ass.
This is simply awful to hear about.
RF 1
By the end of the day, MSNBC will be blaming this guy's actions on Sarah Palin.
Or President Bush. :rolleyes:
Rest in peace moms and babies.
lost for words...Hope this POS is put in gen. pop
GratefulCitizen
01-19-2011, 19:01
Curious as to the distinction between doing this to a viable fetus inside the womb vs. doing this to a viable fetus outside the womb.
olhamada
01-19-2011, 23:01
Curious as to the distinction between doing this to a viable fetus inside the womb vs. doing this to a viable fetus outside the womb.
Essentially same thing. The only difference is location and legality - at least until the Bush Administration made partial birth abortion illegal in 2003 to the screams of restrictions of women's rights by the prochoice community. Interestingly 40% of Americans think partial birth abortion is ok per Rasmussen reports. Given that, why the outrage now?
Just for the record - I am staunchly prolife.
olhamada
01-19-2011, 23:03
Agreed!!!!
There is just so much wrong here. I am stunned that this pos was able to get away with this for 30 years. Those who worked for gosnell and drew a salary should be hammered along with his sorry ass.
This is simply awful to hear about.
RF 1
He got away with it because it was LEGAL until 2003 as long as part of the baby was still in the vagina/birth canal.
It sounds as if Gosnell didn't get the Partial Birth Abortion memo. I sincerely hope he gets the "F"-n death penalty for murder in the 1st degree. Anyone who purposely delivers footling breech, delivering the baby's entire body except for the head, only to jam scissors into the base of the baby's skull..., for the purpose of severing the spinal column and creating an orifice so a suction catheter can be employed, has no freaking conscience and is totally inhumane. There is no medically legitimate reason for PBA :mad:
Curious as to the distinction between doing this to a viable fetus inside the womb vs. doing this to a viable fetus outside the womb.
Our 24-25-26 weekers, and beyond, generally do pretty well due to the advent of surfactant replacement therapy. And someday, I'm hoping as technology advances, some combination of Recombinant Superoxide Dismutase in conjunction with perfluorocarbon, and surfactant replacement, will further improve outcomes in the future...:cool:
Many young women are being raped, sexually assaulted, mutilated and killed in abortion clinics while the media, liberal politicians, the medical establishment as well as the the "pro-choice" community purposely looks the other way.
FWIW, the following book, "Lime 5," is an eye opener if you're interested in case studies, verbatim from hospital records, court documents, and autopsy reports:
http://www.amazon.com/Lime-Exploited-Choice-Mark-Crutcher/dp/0964888602
DJ Urbanovsky
01-20-2011, 01:42
"There were jars, lining shelves, with severed feet that he kept for no medical purpose."
That sounds like a ritualistic attribute exhibited by most serial killers. Almost without exception, they have a tendency to harvest trophies.
If you ask me, somebody needs to ride the lightning.
This man had a medical license, yeah? Does anybody need any more evidence that monsters walk the Earth, and that most of the time, they look just like the rest of us?
PedOncoDoc
01-20-2011, 02:54
Our 24-25-26 weekers, and beyond, generally do pretty well due to the advent of surfactant replacement therapy. And someday, I'm hoping as technology advances, some combination of Recombinant Superoxide Dismutase in conjunction with perfluorocarbon, and surfactant replacement, will further improve outcomes in the future...:cool:
Yes - currently most hospitals will use 24 weeks as a cutoff for viability, although many neonatologists will rescucitate 22 and 23 weekers. For this reason abortions were not performed if the fetus was believed past 20 weeks (either by dates or ultrasound assessment) when I was doing general pediatrics in Ohio, just in case the gestational age of the fetus was underestimated.
Barbarian
01-20-2011, 07:28
Williams said during a press conference Wednesday that Gosnell "induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord.
What a sick SOB. Hope he gets the death penalty. Shame they don't take volunteer executioners, I'd like to see the animal put down myself.:mad:
AngelsSix
01-22-2011, 22:42
This guy is a piece of work. SICK SOB.
But when does society hold the mother responsible??? Who decides to have an abortion after being pregnant for 5 months???
The Reaper
01-22-2011, 22:59
So if you kill a pregnant woman with a viable fetus, you can be charged with two counts of murder, but if you do it as a doctor, you can charge money for it?
This bastard needs to die slowly and painfully.
TR
This bastard needs to die slowly and painfully.
TR
Agree Sir and I have a pair of dull, rusty scissors I'll donate to the cause. :mad:
RIP little ones. My heart aches for you.
Susan
To me, this is an example of the primary symptom of the disease called liberalism.
PedOncoDoc
01-23-2011, 07:26
So if you kill a pregnant woman with a viable fetus, you can be charged with two counts of murder, but if you do it as a doctor, you can charge money for it?
That or a hitman.
as a pundit said...if the Dr. had used an AR15 to kill the babies it would be all over the news.......
This is beyond my comprehension.
On the Road to Auschwitz
A demon has been revealed in twenty-first-century Philadelphia, and the three broadcast networks have been enforcing a policy of silence about the discovery. So have most major newspapers.
One reason may be that the trial of late-term abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell for multiple counts of murder is about an African-American killing mainly African-American babies -- and so the common sense among liberals, or, as a friend of mine would say, the "coven-sense," is that such a story disparages that community. This is something newspapers are loath to do. In much the same manner that they cannot dwell upon the causes of hand gun violence in inner city black communities. Or perhaps they view these killings as prophylactic: one cure for out-of-wedlock births.
But perhaps an even more telling reason for ignoring the Gosnell story is that among the terrible details is revealed the fact that many, many babies being aborted late-term survive the process -- not just a tiny few, as pro-abortionists keep insisting. And so these innocent little souls have to be murdered.
In Dr. Gosnell's clinic, typically by cutting their heads off. In one instance, a child arrived on the table with its eyes and jaw torn off by Gosnell's forceps. While this helpless, sinless, creature lay writhing on the table, screaming, Dr. Gosnell gestured impatiently at an assistant -- do something about that.
How many children were so murdered? I believe that Gosnell's charged with seven counts, but testimony indicates there may have been a hundred -- maybe more, maybe a lot more. And so the liberal press, ever supportive of a woman's right to "choose," just can't have that known.
Then, too, let us remember that in the Illinois state legislature Barack Obama consistently voted against allowing these children any protection. That governors, like Cuomo in New York, have consistently opposed any restrictions on the practice of late-term abortions. That an official of Planned Parenthood recently suggested that the right to kill children extends well beyond birth. Why not? If it's right to kill them when they're minutes old and screaming, why not kill them when they're six months old or a year?
It's all apiece with the liberal culture of death. In Holland, reports exist that older people refuse hospitalization out of fear that a doctor will kill them. In England, the National Health Service is placing helpless elderly on what is euphemistically called the "Pathway" and refusing them medication, food, and water. Under ObamaCare, we will have much the same, with what Sarah Palin called "Death Panels" deciding who lives and who dies. It's just that some people, in the liberal view, deserve to be killed. Or put on the "Pathway."
How can you kill a child? I cannot fathom it. At one time I was very opposed to one class of children -- grandchildren. I wasn't old enough to be a grandfather. I still didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up. So my wife had to literally drag me along, sulky, morose, and bitter, to the hospital to see my first grandchild.
But when I walked into that room and my beaming daughter put her tiny baby in my arms, all that vanished, and I was in love all over again. Together with our own newborns again from thirty years in the past. Indeed, I was transported. This, I confirmed in that instant, is what this world is all about. And I just can't shake the feeling that if someone from outside just held one of those children for a moment before Gosnell had him or her killed, that person, rich or poor, black or white, conservative, Christian, Jewish, agnostic, or not, would fight to the death to save them. But because they weren't held and loved, because they never got the chance to transport that someone, they died screaming. And the fact that they did is so very sad -- not just for them, but for us.
On the other end of life's spectrum, we have a guy I'll call "Buddy." I met him while enrolled in a cardiac rehab program at a local hospital. It is a wonderful place to go. Staffed by RNs and containing some special versions of the machines you see in gyms, the staff reviews your medical records and works out a program of rigorous exercise to restore cardiac health. They're very pleasant, but you don't argue with them; they're the experts, and you're the patient, who, left to your own devices, let yourself get out of shape.
I usually work out next to Buddy. Buddy is precisely the same age I am but was struck with MS ten or so years ago. Today he's twisted up like a pretzel, can walk only with a walker or two canes, and weighs almost nothing. One day after we became friendly, I watched him struggle to lift a free weight to his shoulder. It wasn't an easy go; he had the trembles in a big way, and his eyes were just about starting out of his head.
But I have a talent -- often regretted, I should add -- of saying what comes to mind. "Buddy," I asked "what do you expect to get out of this program?"
He turned that emaciated head on that twisted spine and grinned up at me. "Rich, I expect to get back to one cane. And won't that be something?" Then he laughed and laughed.
I wanted to cry, but I laughed along. How wonderful was that spirit? That's what this world is about, too. Spirit and the precious life that gives rise to it. And much like that first meeting with my granddaughter, I was transported -- went home feeling ten feet high -- after listening to Buddy laugh at his affliction. Life, as Christ told us in the Sermon on the Mount, was good. Your father wouldn't give you anything that wasn't -- would he?
But what would that spirit, that good life, count for with a "Pathway" in England, or how would a Death Panel in the United States view Buddy's twisted body and inability to get around on his own? The answer darkens one's soul, and all I can be certain of is that if we are to be men in this life, we have to defend that spirit, those lives. Those to be born, the elderly, the infirm and ill. Everybody.
Shakespeare said it:
Who could refrain that had a heart to love and in that heart courage to make love known.
Finally, it is wise to recall that long before the death camps, the Nazis began murdering homosexuals, and then every retarded child whose parents they could convince to bring in for "treatment." Nazis, shall we say, didn't hatch their "final solution" overnight; they worked up to the idea of Auschwitz by gradually acclimatizing selected Germans to the idea of killing whole classes of people by killing only certain types of people first.
All in the name of a greater good, of course.
And I'm afraid that that's exactly what's happening here with our babies and our old. We're working up to Auschwitz -- and, like the Nazis who engineered it, to an eternity in hell.
Richard F. Miniter is the author of The Things I Want Most, Random House, BDD. The father of six children he lives and writes in the colonial era hamlet of Stone Ridge, New York. He blogs at richardfminiterblog.com.
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Peregrino
04-14-2013, 12:47
Thanks for posting this.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
GratefulCitizen
04-14-2013, 13:36
The left clings to abortion like it's a religious sacrament.
Much like children being offered to Moloch.
I rarely discuss abortion, because I get too pissed off.
Once again, the typical hypocritical, scumbag lib press illuminates itself in its failure to report another abomination.
This is the first that I've heard of this......Thanks for posting.
This is the first that I've heard of this......Thanks for posting.
This case is beyond appalling and PRB I appreciate your post, I could give a shit less what ethnic group this MD hails from.
I have been reading about this case on a near daily basis at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
I get a lot of news that is relevant to the U.S. at the Daily Mail that I never read about in our U.S. papers.
Trapper John
04-14-2013, 16:50
PRB-
A truly moving and beautiful post, Brother! Your words and the emotion that they convey along with those of William Shakespeare have captured the essence of what I think it means to be human - and that is precisely why I am so proud to call you Brother.
Thank you
Hold fast :lifter
Peregrino
04-14-2013, 16:55
---I get a lot of news that is relevant to the U.S. at the Daily Mail that I never read about in our U.S. papers.
That's because the Ministry of Truth (aka MiniTrue) is actually more entrenched here than in the country of its origin.
And the SEARCH function remains your friend - if used.
01-19-2011
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=370170&highlight=Kermit+Gosnell#post370170
Richard :munchin
Peregrino
04-14-2013, 21:39
And the SEARCH function remains your friend - if used.
01-19-2011
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=370170&highlight=Kermit+Gosnell#post370170
Richard :munchin
Interesting that the original thread is >2 years old with no input during the intervening period (as if the story fell off the radar/didn't exist) and that this is now news again. Conspiracy of Silence? Or did it just take this long to go from charges to trial and the accused's rights had to be protected with a media "cooling off period"?
It is in court presently for whatever reason and there are hardly any news org personnel in attendance....for the above stated reasons (article).
Murdering children is not news unless it is politically correct murder (firearms)....abortion murder is not newsworthy it seems.
frostfire
04-14-2013, 22:29
Those to be born, the elderly, the infirm and ill. Everybody.
I want to see the author volunteer for several weeks in any major city ER, and then check if his stance remains.
I must confess I have a lot of mixed feelings (and thoughts) on such particular issue
I want to see the author volunteer for several weeks in any major city ER, and then check if his stance remains.
I must confess I have a lot of mixed feelings (and thoughts) on such particular issue
I get his drift but understand the nuance of timely death....I think we can agree with his basic thesis though, killing born children like a litter runt is the foulest of acts.
Sanctioning such behavior would be the act of a souless society.
It is in court presently for whatever reason and there are hardly any news org personnel in attendance....for the above stated reasons (article). Murdering children is not news unless it is politically correct murder (firearms)....abortion murder is not newsworthy it seems.
Here's an interesting take in Forbes on the possible "why not" of national coverage of the story. If it is as Mr Adomanis posits, perhaps the story was "pigeon-holed" in the files of edited media coverage until somebody (e.g., Mr Minter, etc) found it useful for their own agendas.
{merged with original thread}
Richard :munchin
The Real Reason The National Media Ignored The Kermit Gosnell Case
Forbes, 13 Apr 2013
The horrific allegations against Dr. Kermit P. Gosnell, have finally gotten into the headlines of the major national media outlets. Everyone is now falling over themselves to make up for lost time covering the story and to denounce everyone else for failing to do so earlier. There have been a series of columns taking the media to task for their indifference and laziness and offering any number of reasons for why the story wasn’t covered in more depth. Conor Freidersdorf had one at The Atlantic. Dave Weigel had one at Slate. Jeffrey Goldberg had one at Bloomberg. These columns, and numerous others, vary in the strength of their indictment of the press: some claim that there was a “blackout” of media coverage, others merely fault the media for being lazy.
I have a somewhat unique perspective on the story since I hail from Philadelphia and have known about it for several years. The case was, as you might imagine, something of a big deal in the City of Brotherly Love. The Philadelphia press corps, which is a shadow of its former self but which is still possessed of professionalism and talent, did a thorough job of covering the story from its inception. In case you think there was some sort of conspiracy to prevent people from hearing about Kermit Gosnell, please consider the following:
Here’s a January 20th, 2011 story about Gosnell calling the clinic a “baby charnel house”
Here’s a January 23rd, 2011 story on Gosnell’s “long tumble to jail” (the story itself says February 4th, but this compendium of stories has the date as January 23rd – it appears that the Inquirer re-posted several of the stories on February 4th)
Here’s an Inquirer story from February 4th, 2011 detailing the charges against Gosnell
Here’s another Inquirer story from February 4th, 2011 about the “gruesome details” of the grand jury report
Here’s an Inquirer story from February 8th 2011 about the District Attorney testifying before the Pennsylvania senate
Here’s a story from March 2nd, 2011 noting that Gosnell faced the death penalty
Here’s a March 16th, 2011 story on specific changes in city health inspection policies
Here’s an April 14th 2011 story about the imposition of a pre-trial gag order
Here’s an October 28th, 2011 story about several clinic employees pleading guilty
Here’s a December 14th 2011 story about changes to Pennsylvania’s abortion laws, changes that were “driven exclusively by the alleged murderous activities of a Philadelphia doctor”
All of that is from 15 minutes of looking using the clumsy search engine of a single Philadelphia newspaper. Another archival search also shows extensive coverage by the Philadelphia Inquirer of the Gosnell case all throughout 2011 and 2012. In Philadelphia at least, there was no lack of media coverage.
Now, as a Philadelphian, I am, like all Philadelphians, intensely aware that my native city is second-rate. As much as I love the place, it just doesn’t have Washington‘s politics or New York‘s money. Philadelphia had its moment in the sun back in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, but since then it’s been in the intensely awkward position of being right in the middle of the most populated and important part of the country without really specializing in anything (true at one point it had manufacturing and heavy industry, but we all know how that ended up). So while I would like the national conversation to be more Philadelphia-centric, I understand that it’s probably not going to happen.
But, while I understand Philadelphia isn’t on everyone’s radar in the way that New York or Washington are, I still think that when its District Attorney testifies before a joint committee meeting of the Pennsylvania state senate and openly accuses the state of criminal negligence that people in the national media outlets ought to take notice. Having the chief law enforcement official of a major American city openly accuse his own state government of that sort of malfeasance is not the sort of thing that happens every day.
Obviously race, class, and the politics of abortion all played a role in limiting national media coverage of the Gosnell story. Depending on their personal views, people will weigh these variables differently. Some people will see a pro-abortion conspiracy, some people will see official indifference toward poor minorities, and I’m under no illusions that I will be able to resolve such a debate.
But, as I demonstrated above, the local Philadelphia media (which is just as if not more “liberal” as the media of any other city) covered Gosnell’s case ably. So the reason the national media didn’t cover it must be more complicated than simple politics. I would lay my finger on a cause that is at once far more banal and far more difficult to combat: the fact that almost all of our “national” media outlets are based in Washington and New York. I have no doubt whatsoever that if Kermit Gosnell had been mutilating women and murdering babies in The Bronx or in Southeast DC, rather than in West Philadelphia, that it would immediately have become a national story.
But the slow death of local newspapers and their replacement by ever-larger media conglomerates means that news coverage is being managed by a shrinking number of people at a few mega-oulets. These people, overwhelmingly based in New York and Washington, understandably tend to focus on issues of more local concern, and their perspectives then drive the “national” coverage. And so Philadelphia, and other places like it, quickly become an afterthought.
And that’s what I find most troubling about the Gosnell case: not that a “liberal media” cruelly crushed a story that clashed with its worldview, but that our national media landscape is so narrowly focused on DC and New York that specific and detailed allegations of the most horrific variety, allegations that were covered in depth by the newspaper of a major american city, were simply ignored. The mechanism by which news filters up from the local to the national level is badly broken. However, in order to understand how to fix the media, we need to understand what’s wrong with it. In this case the problem isn’t primarily one of politics or ideology, it’s one of geography.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/04/13/the-real-reason-the-national-media-ignored-the-kermit-gosnell-case/2/
Here's an interesting take in Forbes on the possible "why not" of national coverage of the story.
Obviously race, class, and the politics of abortion all played a role in limiting national media coverage of the Gosnell story.
'Nuff said.
It's not about local politics or a 2nd class city....it is the subject matter.....a few local stories does not a National news story make.....I've not seen anything but a tweet about ths on National news except for FOX.
Why, as stated above.
seats for the press at the Gossnel trial 3 days ago
Friday's LA Times ponders the question, as well.
"News outlets fall all over themselves to cover horrific crimes because, frankly, there's a big audience for sensational stories. So naturally, abortion foes have been wondering why the national media -- this newspaper included -- haven't jumped all over the indictment and trial of Dr. Kermit B. Gosnell in Philadelphia."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-kermit-gosnell-why-so-little-coverage-20130412,0,4790500.story
News story and Grand Jury report from CBS affiliate (WARNING: disturbing material)
http://www.19actionnews.com/story/21971334/abortion-doctors-trial-horrifies-misses-national-headlines-graphic-details
http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/pdfs/grandjurywomensmedical.pdf
Richard :munchin
This story was on CBS with Charlie Rose this morning. Part of the conversation included the fact that they covered the story when it 'broke' :rolleyes: They also mentioned how people are talking about a lack of MSM coverage on the Internet. They didn't cover this story until they mentioned Justin Beiber offended Anne Frank and victims of the Holocaust :rolleyes: You know, a good hook like a Justin Beiber preview keeps the masses from changing the channel.
Simple solution: Boycott all MSM and kill the evil man for what he's done.
I too enjoy the MSM squirming over what could clearly be considered “a National news story” and the “new media” pressing on the MSM for its lack of coverage. The MSM excuse of it being a “local crime story” does not wash.
I mean look at the Trevon Martin case…local crime story or major national news! Those crazy republican senator candidates that spoke so poorly of rape…that was all over the news! And what about Sandra Fluke??!!!??
Kermit G doesn’t fit the left leaning big news outlet’s narrative and they are uncertain of how to report on this and not offend the “any abortion at anytime for anyone” crowd!
Trapper John
04-15-2013, 11:10
I too enjoy the MSM squirming over what could clearly be considered “a National news story” and the “new media” pressing on the MSM for its lack of coverage. The MSM excuse of it being a “local crime story” does not wash.
I mean look at the Trevon Martin case…local crime story or major national news! Those crazy republican senator candidates that spoke so poorly of rape…that was all over the news! And what about Sandra Fluke??!!!??
Kermit G doesn’t fit the left leaning big news outlet’s narrative and they are uncertain of how to report on this and not offend the “any abortion at anytime for anyone” crowd!
Good points IMO. It clearly appears that there is a left-wing agenda bias in what does get covered and what doesn't. Not merely laziness or a geographical bias IMO.
You forgot Michael Vick though. Originally an Atlanta story, went national and after his conviction quieted down until he was released and hired by the Eagles.
Oh yeah, I forgot, he is a celebrity and only tortured and killed dogs!
It's not about local politics or a 2nd class city....it is the subject matter.....a few local stories does not a National news story make.....I've not seen anything but a tweet about ths on National news except for FOX.
Why, as stated above.
Which is why it's about politics. Lib outlets don't report anything that sheds a bad light on lib subjects, e.g. abortion.
Which is why it's about politics. Lib outlets don't report anything that sheds a bad light on lib subjects, e.g. abortion.
True and when logic comes into the common thought process thru the normal journalistic reporting process (I think that is what scares ultra-libs more than anything) what does everyone think happens at any other abortion clinic/mills??? This is what they mean by Family Planning!
Every clinic in the nation should be audited at once. I can't fathom how many of these cases we don't hear about.
rubberneck
04-15-2013, 12:48
If he killed those kids with an AK the national media coverage would have been wall to wall 24 hours a day for months with calls from the media to ban guns for the sake of the kids.
If he killed those kids with an AK the national media coverage would have been wall to wall 24 hours a day for months with calls from the media to ban guns for the sake of the kids.
Might have been as well-covered as the Rudolph chase.
Maybe this is why it's been quiet in the MSM for as long as it has ....
Eric Holder’s wife co-owns abortion clinic building run by indicted abortionist
While they were digging through online records of Georgia abortion clinics, they stumbled on the fact that Attorney General Eric Holder’s wife Sharon Malone Holder (both pictured right) co-owns with her sister an Atlanta area abortion clinic building.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/breaking-eric-holders-wife-co-owns-abortion-clinic-building-run-by-indicted
Maybe this is why it's been quiet in the MSM for as long as it has ....
lol That guy's such a winner. :D
Maybe this is why it's been quiet in the MSM for as long as it has ....
This administration is just unbelievable…this has to be a hack story!
If the other party just taps their shoe in a bathroom stall, they are run outta town!
The Reaper
04-15-2013, 17:22
If he killed those kids with an AK the national media coverage would have been wall to wall 24 hours a day for months with calls from the media to ban guns for the sake of the kids.
Exactly.
Let him walk through a NICU with an "assault rifle" capping babies of the same terms (actually more humane than what he did) and the media would be all over it, coast to coast.
Murdering SOB, I hope he burns in Hell for eternity.
TR
Peregrino
04-15-2013, 17:26
It's all about shaping public perceptions.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/04/little_anthony_freemonts_twilight_zone_is_our_real ity.html
If it doesn't support the "Progressive" agenda, it doesn't get reported and those who do report it are denigrated or worse.
This administration is just unbelievable…this has to be a hack story!
If the other party just taps their shoe in a bathroom stall, they are run outta town!
Do you guys really think it's true? That Eric Holder's wife co owns the abortion clinic? I'm not saying it isn't believable, I am just interested in what you think.
Do you guys really think it's true? That Eric Holder's wife co owns the abortion clinic? I'm not saying it isn't believable, I am just interested in what you think.
Either they erased the record, or no.
Using the Fulton County website referenced turned up no matches for "TUCKSON"
http://www.qpublic.net/ga/fulton/search.html
The Reaper
04-15-2013, 17:53
Waiting for the Tea Party and racism accusations to begin.
Or maybe it is President Bush's fault?
TR
Either they erased the record, or no.
Using the Fulton County website referenced turned up no matches for "TUCKSON"
http://www.qpublic.net/ga/fulton/search.html
Thanks Hand. It's worth looking into, I'll do some digging and see what I come up with.
Thanks Hand. It's worth looking into, I'll do some digging and see what I come up with.
FWIW
I get a hit on "TUCKSON" on the address going in thru the property records and seeing the below:
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/ga_display_dw.php?county=ga_fulton&KEY=13+0125++LL0335
Chaplain Scott
04-15-2013, 20:13
Exactly.
Let him walk through a NICU with an "assault rifle" capping babies of the same terms (actually more humane than what he did) and the media would be all over it, coast to coast.
Murdering SOB, I hope he burns in Hell for eternity.
TR
Yes Sir, I think you will get your wish:
Matthew 18:5-7 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!"
Matthew 18:10: “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven
Maybe this is why it's been quiet in the MSM for as long as it has ....
Let me get this straight.
A - An MD in Pennsylvania who has been undergoing legal proceedings for several years for criminal medical malpractice by performing/allowing unqualified staff to perform illegal abortions and there are people who, for a number of reasons, think the case has been under-reported by the national news organizations.
B - And an MD in Georgia who performs legal non-surgical abortions has been charged with medicaid fraud.
C - So there is a conspiracy of the liberal-minded national news organizations to under-report A because the building used by B was inherited by the wife of the AG and her sister.
Makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:
Richard :munchin
craigepo
04-16-2013, 07:02
I would opine that this story has been under-reported.
This link goes to an article which describes, in detail, exactly what this doctor is accused of. The procedures alleged are rather disturbing.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0413/ahlert041613.php3
ddoering
04-16-2013, 08:01
I read this: News story and Grand Jury report from CBS affiliate (WARNING: disturbing material)
http://www.19actionnews.com/story/21...raphic-details
and am shocked anyone could call this abortion. This guy would have fit in well at a concentration camp.
Good article about the lack of reporting on this by a Liberal gal that works for FOX Kirsten Powers
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/16/yes-there-is-a-gosnell-trial-coverup-by-the-big-news-organizations.html
Lamont Hill comments from Huffpo
“For what it’s worth, I do think that those of us on the left have made a decision not to cover this trial because we worry that it’ll compromise abortion rights. Whether you agree with abortion or not, I do think there’s a direct connection between the media’s failure to cover this and our own political commitments on the left. I think it’s a bad idea, I think it’s dangerous, but I think that’s the way it is.”
Points for telling it like it is, although the Right (and others) put two-and-two together awhile back. Lamont Hill earns some tepid applause for honesty here -- plus, at least the man's consistent: He's demonstrated a pattern of sympathizing with killers
Trapper John
04-18-2013, 09:39
Lamont Hill comments from Huffpo
“For what it’s worth, I do think that those of us on the left have made a decision not to cover this trial because we worry that it’ll compromise abortion rights. Whether you agree with abortion or not, I do think there’s a direct connection between the media’s failure to cover this and our own political commitments on the left. I think it’s a bad idea, I think it’s dangerous, but I think that’s the way it is.”
BINGO!!! Thank you, Brother, for posting this. IMO: This is exactly the problem with the debate today on any issue from either the left or the right. It's always about supporting the dogma and the near total absence of critical thinking.
Dare I trot out Archibald MacLeish yet again :eek: see http:// www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1942/1942-06-26b.html :p
IMO: This is exactly the problem with the debate today on any issue from either the left or the right. It's always about supporting the dogma and the near total absence of critical thinking.
Can you give me a clear example of an issue being debated from the perspective of the "right" that indicates a near total absence of critical thinking, Bro?
Can you give me a clear example of an issue being debated from the perspective of the "right" that indicates a near total absence of critical thinking, Bro?
Gay Marriage???
Trapper John
04-18-2013, 10:13
Can you give me a clear example of an issue being debated from the perspective of the "right" that indicates a near total absence of critical thinking, Bro?
I will need to research some of Sara Palin's speeches to be specific, but I am certain there are a few there:p Damn, some of the shit that woman said was patently stupid.
Oh, and how about those chuckleheaded Congressmen that waxed on about legitimate rape or that a woman's body can somehow manifestly expel an unwanted pregnancy?
Maybe I should also include Wayne Lapierre's suggestion that we arm school teachers? Now, that was a half-baked notion.
Just about anything that Gov. Perry said during the primaries? At one point I was truly afraid the Repub's were going nominate him and that he would pick Sara Palin as a running mate. I could see the bumper stickers: "Dumb and Dumber in 2012" :D
And please don't get me started on Rush :eek:
I will need to research some of Sara Palin's speeches to be specific, but I am certain there are a few there:p Damn, some of the shit that woman said was patently stupid.
Oh, and how about those chuckleheaded Congressmen that waxed on about legitimate rape or that a woman's body can somehow manifestly expel an unwanted pregnancy?
Maybe I should also include Wayne Lapierre's suggestion that we arm school teachers? Now, that was a half-baked notion.
Just about anything that Gov. Perry said during the primaries? At one point I was truly afraid the Repub's were going nominate him and that he would pick Sara Palin as a running mate. I could see the bumper stickers: "Dumb and Dumber in 2012" :D
And please don't get me started on Rush :eek:
Dude, you forgot the pink font...
And please don't get me started on Rush :eek:
I don't mind you ragging on Palin, Lapierre and chuckleheads, but jacking Rush is bad juju. :eek: :D
I see your point. Some conservatives have said some dumb things, made some mistakes.
I gotta say, though-I'd rather have Perry and Palin in the White House right now, regardless of their foibles, because their hearts are in the right place.
Trapper John
04-18-2013, 11:06
I don't mind you ragging on Palin, Lapierre and chuckleheads, but jacking Rush is bad juju. :eek: :D
I see your point. Some conservatives have said some dumb things, made some mistakes.
I gotta say, though-I'd rather have Perry and Palin in the White House right now, regardless of their foibles, because their hearts are in the right place.
I agree that Perry and Palin truly have their hearts in the right place, it's just this anal/cranial inversion thing that bugs me :D
Thanks for the warning about Rush. I was going to say, I'll be checking under the bed at night. But then I realized the XO has so much shit under there it could never be a hide for the boogie Rush:eek: