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niners
01-10-2011, 12:17
Hi all,
I have tried googling and searching the site but have some questions in detail I would like to see if I can get some answers on. I have been trying to enlist as an 18X the past couple of weeks with the final word today being a no-go; I have a medical waiver for my PRK which has disqualified me from the 18X contract. I am 26, a college grad, and 99th percentile ASVAB just to get some details out of the way.

I want to be an 18D, and that is all I want to be. To get to this point, would it be more beneficial to me to enlist as 68W or 11X? My recruiter is telling me that as an 11X it might be quicker to go through the pipeline as SF will recruit from basic training those who are qualified. However, I want to be in the medical field, so I was thinking if somehow that didn't happen, 68W would be a good deal for me if I can go to selection from there though I am unsure of how easily a command will potentially let go of me as a 68W to go to selection. I know I need to get through Airborne prior to selection as well, so would infantry be the better choice since everything is at Fort Benning?

Cliffs notes: Would enlisting as a 68W be any more beneficial and quicker in getting me into the pipeline to being an 18D than enlisting as 11X?

Thank you all for your time, advice and service.

Surgicalcric
01-10-2011, 14:16
...I want to be an 18D, and that is all I want to be. To get to this point, would it be more beneficial to me to enlist as 68W or 11X? My recruiter is telling me that as an 11X it might be quicker to go through the pipeline as SF will recruit from basic training those who are qualified...

Cliffs notes: Would enlisting as a 68W be any more beneficial and quicker in getting me into the pipeline to being an 18D than enlisting as 11X?


Niners:

Sorry to hear you had trouble with your enlistment and arent getting exactly what you want when you want it, but it happens.

Before giving you advice on what I would do if I were in your shoes I want to address the comment I highlighted above. We understand your wanting to serve as an 18D but have you thought about what you would do if for some reason you were not to make it thru the training or even be selected to begin training? Not everyone who wants to be SF can be and even fewer are SF medics. You need to have a back up plan.

Now... I would enlist 68W, learn and train all I could then apply to SFAS when you are eligible. There is plenty to be learned from the conventional military and plenty of opportunities for you to excel. Also if something were to happen and you not make it thru SF training you are in the medical field.

That said, Ranger Regiment looks for volunteers at 68W AIT to fill holes they have as well.

HTH,

Crip

niners
01-10-2011, 14:29
Thanks a lot for your insight and response sir; I shouldn't say 18D is the end-all-be-all of what I want to do since I am ready to serve and do my best in any capacity I end up in if, as you say, I am not selected for training or do not make it through selection. I am more concerned with just getting to selection and being given the chance; if I fail it is of my own accord and it is something I can live happily with.

I appreciate your advice about 68W and will be seeing if there are any slots I can reserve with my recruiter this evening. Thank you for your time.

Dozer523
01-10-2011, 16:55
My gut reaction to your second post being a thread was "Oh boy, here we go again" But, then I noticed you've been a member for the past 11 months and I thought "now that's good". (Huh Big Teddy?, see I can learn.)

They told you that you were not qualified for 18X. I hate the all powerful they who find in their power to say a guy can't do something in their opinion. So he doesn't get to try. Then they go one to find someone else they can judge and deny.

But maybe they are right.
My suggestion is go the medic route then try for the 18D slot. If you don't get it (because of they or because of you) then you have lots of medical options. You can be a great medic, or a PA or a nurse or a doc or a brain surgeon or a (dare we dream?) a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills. Gasp!!Serious point is: go for what you want and keep your options open.

Good luck.

Tristanada
01-10-2011, 17:46
Something to think about, 18B is the same identifier as 18X in the fact that if you are selected you will be put in any job Special Forces thinks you will fit best. If you chose infantry you might be lucky enough to get a CLS certified let alone be just a rifleman. You could end up in a bradley fighting vehicle, on a mortar team, on a machine gun team, ect. And without an airborne identifier to start off you likely will. (just realistically)

With the 68W MOS you will still be in the medical field and will get a taste of the real army and hopefully be able to make a better decision from there. As stated above, Rangers are nothing to turn your nose up to. 68W is not a bad gig. I know because my wife teaches at the school house at Ft. Sam Houston.


Best of Luck

Dozer523
01-10-2011, 20:11
Something to think about, blah blah blah . . . Best of Luck But in a nice way since you basicly wrote the same thing I did.:D
But, from the sticky you did not read . . .

"This is a forum where civilians can "ask" the Special Forces soldiers past and present "Special Forces" related questions.
Those questions are then answered by Special Forces soldiers, period.
Questions asked by the general public should NOT be answered by the "general" public.
If you do not have the title of "Quiet Professional" you may ask a question, but leave the "answers" to the QP's.

TT-nada, Don't never do it NO mo!

Jgood
01-10-2011, 21:03
Iam hoping that this is a typo and that your not stating an 18B is basically the same as a 18X.

Something to think about, 18B is the same identifier as 18X in the fact that if you are selected you will be put in any job Special Forces thinks you will fit best.

Surgicalcric
01-10-2011, 21:24
Tristan...you have no idea what you are talking about.

...18B is the same identifier as 18X in the fact that if you are selected you will be put in any job Special Forces thinks you will fit best...

This is the reason we have rules about non-SF qualified people answering SF questions.

Go do PT.

niners
01-12-2011, 16:22
Thank you all sincerely for your help and opinions, they have helped me greatly. I DEP'ed in as a 68W this morning and look forward to serving.

Dozer523
01-12-2011, 21:07
I DEP'ed in as a 68W this morning and look forward to serving. Watch out, Beverly Hills! Good Luck.

1stindoor
01-13-2011, 07:57
I DEP'ed in as a 68W this morning and look forward to serving.

Good luck to you. Something to think about...our Civil Affairs element has their own medical course...it's a step up from your basic 68W and a good stepping stone towards becoming an 18D.

Glima
05-04-2011, 08:19
Gentlemen,

Similar to Niners, I've reserved a slot to go 68w; though I wasn't DQ'd from 18x...from there I will be focusing my energy on finding the most efficient way to get to 18D.

Would you all see getting an option 4 or 40 as something which would greatly help me in this endeavour, and therefore should be insisted upon in the contract?

Some (The Recruiters) have advised me to perform to the best of my ability in training and wait to be singled out and asked to go Ranger or Airborne, though this adds an element of chance, with which I'm uncomfortable...I see this as more the recruiters looking to speed things up and get me out of their hair...

Thanks in advance for the tips.

-Glima

1stindoor
05-04-2011, 08:25
If you want an Airborne or Ranger option...then request it. If they say no, or it's not available, then tell them to call you when it is. No one is forcing you to sign a contract you're uncomfortable with.

Glima
05-08-2011, 23:13
Thanks for the advice. I'll be swearing in tomorrow.

Assuming all goes well with the contract, my ship date will be 20111017.

The recruiter told me he had nothing to do with getting me options like that, and to take it up with the liaison. Which I will be doing.

wet dog
05-08-2011, 23:19
Thanks for the advice. I'll be swearing in tomorrow.

Assuming all goes well with the contract, my ship date will be 20111017.

The recruiter told me he had nothing to do with getting me options like that, and to take it up with the liaison. Which I will be doing.

Congrats, thanks for suiting up.

I'm posting a link for you to watch, enjoy.

http://www.pritzkermilitarylibrary.org/Home/Medal-of-Honor-with-Ed-Tracy-3.aspx

Glima
05-09-2011, 03:31
I never knew people as great as that guy really existed.

Thanks for the inspiration.

1stindoor
05-09-2011, 06:44
Thanks for the advice. I'll be swearing in tomorrow.

Assuming all goes well with the contract, my ship date will be 20111017.

The recruiter told me he had nothing to do with getting me options like that, and to take it up with the liaison. Which I will be doing.

Let me be the "buzz-kill." Your recruiter lied to you. Once you've signed the enlistment contract he has no need to get you an airborne or ranger assignment. Best of luck.

Glima
05-10-2011, 09:47
Let me be the "buzz-kill." Your recruiter lied to you. Once you've signed the enlistment contract he has no need to get you an airborne or ranger assignment. Best of luck.

To no surprise, you were right. Apparently, they never planned on getting it for me in the first place. I got all the way to the liaison who threw a contract at me and told me to sign it; luckily I read it, option 4 (airborne) was nowhere on there.

Tell him I need it to be in the contract, he goes "You want option FOUR?! That's hilarious. Hey! (signals to other guy at desk) this kid wants option 4 in his contract!" That set off every guy at a desk in that office telling me I could go to airborne school at any point in my career, all I'd have to do is apply, and how I'm letting a good oppurtunity go to waste by refusing to sign bla bla bla...after politely declining their increasingly aggressive demands that I sign (one guy said "Look kid, I don't know how to put this...you're bein a dumbass right now. Listen, you don't have shit goin for you in your life right now anyway." I reply, "Excuse me?" he goes on, "Kids like you don't come in here unless they don't have shit goin for you. If you were makin 100 grand a year, why would you even consider joining the Army? Just sign the fucking paper. Alot of guys have worked hard to get you here." THAT set my blood boiling. The pretention of some guy who looked more like Michael Moore than anything sitting behind a desk in MEPS telling me about how my life was fucked, and then including apparently every service member into his pathetic waste of an existence, I mean come on...) I was told to "Get the hell out of our office. We don't want kids like you in our Army anyways."

I went out and sat down where I was waiting before, wondering what I'd do from there. One guy comes out and says to me "You can't stay here. You need to go to the other side of the building." And directs me outside and to the right, telling the woman at the desk to make sure I'm let back in. I follow his directions, and find a guy in uniform at the end of the strip waiting for me with a door open. He has this disgustingly sympathetic look on his face, and puts his arm around me saying "Don't worry, you haven't messed anything up yet. Master Sergeant (I dunno if I should use names here or not) Rush wants to speak to you."

I go into his office and this guy who reminds me of a Baptist preacher goes into this long sermon about how the Army is made up of decision makers, who have to be able to make life changing decisions in split seconds, and how if I can't decide today to further my career, I'd be giving up a great thing. He tells me how life is made up of disappointments sometimes, and that by giving up Airborne, I'd be still making a step towards it. I tell him that I have absolutely no reason to trust anyone that's spoken to me today, that I compromise for no one, I came for one reason, and that was to get a 68W job with an Option 4 and that if they weren't willing to put out, I'd move on and find something else to do. He then the went into this diatribe about how it's time for me to make a decision, shakes my hand and looks me in the eye and says "can I count on you to make the right decision today?" I laughed and said "I'll figure it out."

I get back, and waiting for me is my recruiter. Immediately, I thought of the character of the devil from the play / movie Damned Yankees. He looks at me like a father would look at his son who has gotten into trouble, concerned, yet sympathetic. He starts out in a very kind tone, "So what's wrong? tell me what's goin on..." I relay to him basically that they're not offering me what I came to get, that I am willing to make no compromises, and that if he can't get me what I want, that he'd might as well take me back to my car. He goes "Yeah, I didn't know this before. Apparently, you can't get option four at all, because you had PRK done, and you needed a waiver to get into the Army." That one blew me away, either way if it's true or not, I dunno, but I told him that I would need to consider everything before I'd sign, and that I wanted to wait to think about it. That apparently pissed him off as we were going back into the liasons, everyone there started tearing me apart at once, I just tuned them all out and waited for it to be over, the recruiter in whom I once confided started telling them how I wanted to go SF, to which they started laughing and carrying on about how that's a crock of shit, which I sensed was more them venting out their broken dreams, so I didn't really care and walked out.

Moral of the story is, kids who are reading this, take no prisoners when you go to MEPS. They will start throwing everything they can at you to take their deal, and compromise your life. Don't be one of the poor saps these guys seemed so accustomed to pressuring into signing their lives away. How much would it suck if you took a job they wanted you to take, and you end up getting killed b/c you end up working in a place you don't even want to be? Think about it. They will try putting you down and making fun of where you are in life to get you to sign it, STAY STRONG. Get what you went for. You may not get it yet, at this point, I have no idea what I'm going to do. My recruiter won't even speak to me. But I trust that whatever I do, it will be better than if I had caved in, sacrificed myself and signed my life away to satisfy the whim of a bunch of low life losers wondering what the fuck happend to their lives.

1stindoor
05-10-2011, 10:50
To no surprise, you were right. Apparently, they never planned on getting it for me in the first place. I got all the way to the liaison who threw a contract at me and told me to sign it; luckily I read it, option 4 (airborne) was nowhere on there.
Sorry. I knew I was, but didn't want to crush your hopes. That's not to say you can't hold out for want you want. The Army doesn't have to give it to you, they may not "have it" to give, but somewhere between the Army's needs and your wants a compromise can be had sometimes.

Tell him I need it to be in the contract, he goes "You want option FOUR?! That's hilarious. Hey! (signals to other guy at desk) this kid wants option 4 in his contract!" That set off every guy at a desk in that office telling me I could go to airborne school at any point in my career, all I'd have to do is apply, and how I'm letting a good oppurtunity go to waste by refusing to sign bla bla bla...after politely declining their increasingly aggressive demands that I sign (one guy said "Look kid, I don't know how to put this...you're bein a dumbass right now. Listen, you don't have shit goin for you in your life right now anyway."
If true, and I'm not accusing you of lying, I apologize the the unprofessional environment and attitude. What I can tell you is that every recruiting office is different and every recruiter is different. If you're going to the same MEPS station though...you might have to expect the same attitude.

"Kids like you don't come in here unless they don't have shit goin for you. If you were makin 100 grand a year, why would you even consider joining the Army?
No matter where you go in life you're going to find people from all walks of life that are at the same point in their life as you are. One of my closest friends in the Infantry joined because his father wanted him to have a miltary background before having him join his "firm" in Texas. (think multi billion dollar multi national business)...three years later he reenlisted and said goodbye to his "fortune" for the chance to be his own man. He retired several years ago after 20 years, never going back to family business. I've also served with people that were fortunate to get out of high school without a conviction or criminal record that never had more than $20 in their pocket in their entire lives. I've known college grads that enlisted and young privates and lower enlisted Soldiers go on to become officers.

He goes "Yeah, I didn't know this before. Apparently, you can't get option four at all, because you had PRK done, and you needed a waiver to get into the Army."
I'm not sure on that one...but it's probably accurate. I only know this because yesterday I spent about 90 minutes with my son as talked to our recruiter.

Moral of the story is, kids who are reading this, take no prisoners when you go to MEPS.
Let me rephrase this for you. Moral of the story is READ, RESEARCH, DO YOUR HOMEWORK, go in well armed and knowledgeable. Know what you want, but also know what your odds are. Are you in debt? Lots of traffic tickets, a few broken bones or surgeries? A baby-daddy? Illegal? Have a warrant out, been taking drugs? Want a job that's over filled, under filled, need perfect vision, TS security clearance? We don't preach using the SEARCH button for nothing.

STAY STRONG. Get what you went for. You may not get it yet, at this point, I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Like I said in the beginning...somewhere between what you want, and what the Army needs you may be able to find a compromise...provided you can pass the pre-reqs. Remember, it's an all-volunteer force, just because you want to join...doesn't mean you get to join. Good luck to you.

SCT27
05-11-2011, 12:53
[QUOTE=niners;368301]
I have a medical waiver for my PRK which has disqualified me from the 18X contract.

[QUOTE=Glima;391768]
"Yeah, I didn't know this before. Apparently, you can't get option four at all, because you had PRK done, and you needed a waiver to get into the Army."


Hey niners and glima,
I had PRK done 4 years ago and signed my 18x contract last month. I did have a little trouble with MEPS because they had a hard time reading the scanned copies of the records for the PRK. Nonetheless I was approved and joined with no other medical issues. I am also prior service and had the PRK done in a military hospital. I don't know if any of that made a difference for me, but I hope that it shows you that you can get 18x or Airborne having had PRK. Other than that glima, I hope that the unprofessional behavior by MEPS doesn't detract you from doing what you want to do. Maybe you should look for another recruiter? And good luck to you niners, I had served with some great medics, a couple of guys I know would not be here without them.

Air.177
05-15-2011, 11:05
Sorry i'm late.

I'm not a QP but i've dealt with this shit (and won) a lot more recently than most folks.

No, prk is not generally a DQ, it just means waivers which= asspain for recruiters. In addition to your waiver to enlist, you will need an exception to policy letter from BAC, and you will have to apply for another waiver to get to SOPC and probably again for SFAS. You will probably have to be stubborn as fuck but do so respectfully and tactfully as it seems you have been thus far. You can most likely get an 18x still (if the program is still around, i've heard it was getting killed in march but according to PNN, its been on the way out since before it started)

Also, be advised that there is a maximum waiverable pre-surgery refractive error. I don't know what it is but that statute totally boned one of my good friends who could have been an incredible asset to the program (oh and he made well over $100k /year before taking an x ray contract so tell that idiot to stuff it...tactfully of course)

Good luck dude, pm me if you have specific questions (but not before you search this board for "exception to policy")


Good times,
Blake


ETA: oh yeah, MEPS is a total shithole, 30th AG is nearly as bad, but you gotta get through that to get where you want. MEPS folks suck, just find one you can use to get what you're after, there's usually one.

The Reaper
05-15-2011, 12:08
Good advice, B, thanks for reinforcing it.

TR

greenberetTFS
05-16-2011, 15:57
Congrats, thanks for suiting up.

I'm posting a link for you to watch, enjoy.

http://www.pritzkermilitarylibrary.org/Home/Medal-of-Honor-with-Ed-Tracy-3.aspx

Excellent post..........:D

Big Teddy :munchin

Keenan
06-25-2011, 18:21
EDIT:

Original question answered.

goon175
07-30-2011, 23:47
I think it is entirely embarassing to the U.S. Army to have recruiters and guidance counselors act like the ones discussed above.

That being said, the current USAREC message states that if you required a medical waiver of any kind, that you will be unable to take the airborne physical at MEPS, thus making you ineligible for Options 4, 40, or MOS 18x. Now, this does not mean that you cannot do it period, as this is just a USAREC policy, not Army policy. So when you get to OSUT or AIT, you can apply for all of those things listed above, as USAREC messages do not apply to you anymore.

Bottom line, if you require a medical waiver, you will not get above options in your contract, so just work your ass off in OSUT or AIT and get the slot that way.

PaladinJim
07-31-2011, 14:14
Glima, I truly admire your boldness and your strength of will. I went to MEPS just a few days after your message was posted and I wish I had seen it. Me and all the 17-21yr olds at meps that day were scared shitless, not really knowing what we were doing, having people in uniform constantly annoyed with us. In that environment I was leagues away from the boldness you had.

A fellow future soldier went in thinking he was going airborne infantry and they tried to leave the airborne bit out of his contact that day. The SFC at our recruiter's office made a call and pulled some strings and made sure that kid got airborne.

MT87
08-07-2011, 18:22
Found the info I was looking for, apologies

axe-man
08-07-2011, 19:13
It is definatly possible to get 18x or airborne during infantry osut if you really impress your drill sergeants and get their recommendation. Four soldiers from my Infantry osut company got in the 18x pipeline including myself. Do your best.


Wish me luck on my first jump tomorrow. God willing I leave for Fort Bragg Friday.

Carpe Diem
08-08-2011, 08:58
EDIT: I didn't realize how old this thread was, only that it was recently bumped. Nonetheless, the information is here for anyone with a similar problem or question to learn from.

And, perhaps your safest option yet, directly quoted from the MEMORANDUM FOR RANGER MEDIC VOLUNTEERS found @ http://www.soc.mil/75th%20Ranger%20Regiment/recruiting.html

d. All incoming medical personnel will attend the Special Operations Combat Medic Course
(SOCM) at the Joint Special Operations Medical Training Center at Fort Bragg, NC prior to
being assigned to a Ranger Unit. This is an exetremely demanding academic medical course
that is 27 weeks in length. Upon completion, a graduate will be USSOCOM State Emergency
Medical Technician-Paramedic certified and will have completed a 1-month tour in a major city
trauma center and a 3 week block of special operations military medicine. This course is Phase
I of the 18D Special Forces Medic Sergeant Course and is designed for Ranger Medics, Navy
SEAL Corpsman, and USAF Pararescuemen. Failure to complete the SOCM course will result
in being dropped from Ranger assignment. Personnel coming from AIT and Airborne school will
be placed in student transient status until the next available SOCM class. Personnel recruitied
from other active duty units, will complete ROP and return to their previous unit until the next
available SOCM course. This is a PCS school. Following RIP/ROP, you will PCS to Fort Bragg
to attend the course and upon completion be assigned to a Ranger unit. Failure to complete the
course may result in the soldier being returned to previously assigned unit or assigned IAW the
needs of the Army. We only want the best medics. Graduates will carry the additional skill
identifier “W1” (SOCM) for the rest of their career.

Niners, I would recommend going this route. And, if you make it through all of the medical training, you will eventually attend SURT or Small Unit Ranger Tactics prior to Ranger School. Not only will you be offered an exceptional place to grow and learn in your field, but you will also be challenged and taught leadership skills as well as tactics. The tactical experience as a medic may or may not present itself in a conventional army unit, however, going this path almost guarantees it. Lest I even mention the fact that you will be going through phase I of the 18D course.

If you're up to the challenge and SF is truly something you want to make happen for you, then you have nothing to lose going this route.

P.S. This pipeline 'begins' at AIT, visit the link I posted above and scroll all the way to the bottom. There will be two links, click on the one titled "Ranger Medic Application (AIT Students only)" for more information. Within this file and the website there are contact details. I recommend doing your own research and then e-mailing the Regimental Senior Medic if you still have questions.

kkillert0fu
09-30-2011, 18:37
Im just curious, what was it about the PRK that disqualified you from the 18X contract? I got my PRK done almost two years ago. I was under the impression that PRK was the only procedure accepted for those seeking a spec ops job. That having had lasik is actually more of a liability (i.e. during halo jumps, scuba dives, etc). Granted, that information was received after inquiring about the Navy SEAL pipeline, but I didn't think it varied among other spec ops units. Im just wondering what exactly you were told? Was it policy? Or something unique about your procedure?

niners
10-16-2011, 19:04
Hi all,
I'd just like to update and reinforce some of the info in here since I've been in AIT. The DQ'ing factor wasn't my PRK in and of itself, it's the fact that I had a waiver of any sort that precluded me from getting an Abn stamp while at MEPS. I am 4 weeks out from graduating as a 68w and have loved it so far. I have a high pt and high gpa and had the opportunity to apply for both Abn or Ranger because of it. Slots are very limited at this point in time, as I believe there were only 15 Abn slots and about the same amount of Ranger slots available. However I had received my orders for my next duty station to be in Korea, so I am choosing to explore that area of the world and learn a little more before I put in a packet for SFAS.

To those who aren't able to get Abn at MEPS, it's at least very possible to get it as an IET soldier at 68w school; I can't speak for the rest. Abn is pretty backed up though from what I understand, and Ranger as well; we have some holdovers who have been here waiting for their Abn to start for awhile. Good luck to all, and thank you all again for the resource that is this board, as I have not regretted any decision I've made and I have been blessed with a great experience thus far.

Scamilton
01-22-2012, 13:46
Apologies for digging up an old thread but I had a question for the soldiers down at Ft. Sam finishing up Whiskey training.

I graduated back in July 2011 from Alpha Co. Myself, and I believe three others from our company were awarded Ranger contracts, but then they were taken away due to Airborne school being so backed up by AIT students. Did you, niners, get Airborne or Ranger school awarded and everything go through?

Curious to know if they had opened it back up for Whiskeys to do so.

niners
05-17-2013, 15:17
I just wanted to take a quick moment and thank all the QP's and gentlemen who have given me words of encouragement or advice due to this thread. I was selected class 08-13 with 18D and Tagalog. I have not regretted a moment I've spent in the Army thus far and sincerely thank y'all for pointing me in the right direction.

adal
05-17-2013, 15:21
Niners, Awesome!

Joker
05-17-2013, 21:10
Niners, from 10-16-2011 till now. Way to stick with it and attain being selected!:lifter Don't slack off now!

Ecclesiastes
02-14-2014, 01:27
You never gave up. Thank you for the encouragement!

Scamilton
03-20-2014, 17:47
Congrats niners. SOCM is a completely different beast from Whiskey school. Prepare yourself, and good luck.

REP63WannaB
05-02-2014, 22:10
I am trying to find a POC at Benning whom can help me get an Exception to Policy for an airborne physical at MEPS - or really any information on the process

I was told - just like every other med waiver recruit on here - that I was DQ'd from 18X because of my waiver. While I understood this to be true, I also knew about the ETP waiver you could put in for. None of the recruiters or liaisons at MEPS knew how to put in for one... Today when I went to MEPS the recruiters/liaisons told me I was on my own for getting the waiver from airborne and that I should try "googling it".

- I actually took the Airborne physical at MEPS and passed but the Doc had to put "not qualified" due to me having a waiver

I respect these guys' time so I can understand why none of them want to track down a POC or the correct workflow but I just can't seem to find anything

Any info would be a huge help

VR
REP

TrapperFrank
05-03-2014, 07:12
The search button is your friend...that being said, times have changed in the recruiting business. The army is getting rid of personnel, from the recruiters standpoint, why put the time and effort into what is essentially a DA waiver.
Not to burst your bubble, good luck in this endevour.

WarriorDiplomat
05-04-2014, 10:21
I am trying to find a POC at Benning whom can help me get an Exception to Policy for an airborne physical at MEPS - or really any information on the process

I was told - just like every other med waiver recruit on here - that I was DQ'd from 18X because of my waiver. While I understood this to be true, I also knew about the ETP waiver you could put in for. None of the recruiters or liaisons at MEPS knew how to put in for one... Today when I went to MEPS the recruiters/liaisons told me I was on my own for getting the waiver from airborne and that I should try "googling it".

- I actually took the Airborne physical at MEPS and passed but the Doc had to put "not qualified" due to me having a waiver

I respect these guys' time so I can understand why none of them want to track down a POC or the correct workflow but I just can't seem to find anything

Any info would be a huge help

VR
REP

At the infantry AIT there should be an SF Liasion that can get you pointed in the right direction.

I can't speak for everyone here but the fact that it sounds like you are making every effort to join SF speaks volumes about you. Being administratively qualified does not make a man a better candidate and getting through the training doesn't mean he has the character to endure.

REP63WannaB
05-04-2014, 16:29
TrapperFrank-
I hear you loud and clear

WarriorDiplomat-
There is nothing I want more than to be a part of the groups. Everyday that I have to work for a contract just makes me more hungry for it. If somehow I never make it then God used this situation to teach me of endurance and persistency - worth it

VR
REP

theloopersc88
05-05-2014, 11:26
REP63WannaB

Google SORB, (Special Operations Recruiting Batt.)
Or just go to www.sorbrecruiting.com, because one of the websites that pops up is NOT the one you are looking for! I am having the same problem as you, my liaison tried to get me 18x because I had above qualifying scores but the CMO at meps would not get me an ABRN stamp waiver. I'll be at OSUT at Ft. Benning May 20th so I've been trying to find out if SOF recruiters will be down there. Half are saying they will be and half are saying I'm SOL due to no ABN stamp and that I have to wait till I get to my unit. Best of luck to you!

DavyJonesLockr
02-18-2018, 21:48
Is it anyway I could lose my 18x contract once Im at BCT due to me having a med waiver but was cleared for abn at meps?

tom kelly
02-19-2018, 14:14
YES, It is possible to lose your 18X contract. Tom Kelly

DavyJonesLockr
02-20-2018, 19:44
I just put in an ETP for my med waiver for a shaving profile and wondering would there be a reason that it could come back no-go for razor bumps.

1stindoor
02-22-2018, 13:33
I just put in an ETP for my med waiver for a shaving profile and wondering would there be a reason that it could come back no-go for razor bumps.

You'll see a lot of waivers for "the bumps," in the Army. Just not a lot of them wearing SF tabs. At this point in your life you should be trying to be the "gray man." You're not doing it right.