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SF-TX
11-21-2010, 08:23
Apparently, they were there to investigate a violent rape. The thugs would have none of it.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-1WO8KkIA)

Pete
11-21-2010, 08:30
What? Again?

First thing the French Police need to learn is "It ain't rape if a Muslim does it - she asked for it?"

greenberetTFS
11-21-2010, 08:52
Apparently, they were there to investigate a violent rape. The thugs would have none of it.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-1WO8KkIA)

Don't the French have a SWAT team for support on something like this?...........:rolleyes: Again I'm glad I'm an old walrus(Richard's nickname of me,instead of an old fart) that I'm problemly never going to see that Muslims take over of Europe and then eventually the USA!..........:mad: Whose going to stop them and how?.....:confused: We saw the same s**t recently in England with the cops running away from the Muslim crowd....:mad:

Big Teddy

Oldrotorhead
11-21-2010, 09:46
Would I be far off to think that in some places in Europe open fighting between government troops and " immigraqnts" could be in the near future? I don't mean Paris or London but some of the smaller and poorer cities. :munchin

SF_BHT
11-21-2010, 09:49
What? Again?

First thing the French Police need to learn is "It ain't rape if a Muslim does it - she asked for it?"

Once you learn to run away it becomes a habit. They have been doing it for years............:p

Next thing they will be asking us to come and fight that battle for them....;)

rdret1
11-21-2010, 11:48
Once you learn to run away it becomes a habit. They have been doing it for years............:p

Next thing they will be asking us to come and fight that battle for them....;)

The French white flag! If that had happened here, we would have had the entire patrol team down there and every one of those little bastards would be in jail. Several of them would have at least rode the lightening! Done it before, can do it again!

The Reaper
11-21-2010, 12:00
The French white flag! If that had happened here, we would have had the entire patrol team down there and every one of those little bastards would be in jail. Several of them would have at least rode the lightening! Done it before, can do it again!

The entire NC state, county, and municipal jail capacity is not enough to hold the number of rioters in France.

The Muslims are outbreeding the native French by a wide margin.

They waited too late to try and take their country back. They should have stopped the immigration when they could have. There might be a lesson for us there as well.

The only safe way now is to pull back and nuke it from orbit.

TR

Ambush Master
11-21-2010, 12:05
When will they ever learn?!?!?! You don't "Threaten With a Gun" YOU USE IT!!!

Looks like there's a need to start playing Cowboys and muslims!!!

Kyobanim
11-21-2010, 12:11
The only safe way now is to pull back and nuke it from orbit.


Yep, that's the way I see it.

Pete
11-21-2010, 16:33
I have heard (never been there) that there are entire areas within France and Germany and so forth where the police cannot go because you aren't even really in France or Germany anymore, you're in something else entirely, because unlike in America where our Muslims have to assimilate, their Muslims they have allowed to remain isolated and not assimilate. Hence Angela Merkel saying the experiment in multiculturalism has failed.

Geeeze, for a minute there I thought you were talking about Deerborn Mich.

SF-TX
11-21-2010, 19:23
Could also be certain areas of Philadelphia.

Paslode
11-21-2010, 19:47
because unlike in America where our Muslims have to assimilate, their Muslims they have allowed to remain isolated and not assimilate.

They do enough to make use of the system, but they in no way accept our culture or assimilate.

Locally there has been an influx of darker skinned folks (Indians, Paki's, Arabs, etc.) many whom work at Sprint, whom are only interested in their children learning Math and Science and whom informed the Teachers and the School they wanted far less emphasis English, American History and Social Studies....because it is not as important as Math & Science. That is not assimilation.

longrange1947
11-21-2010, 19:49
They had a similar problem in the 50s and 60s. At that time it was the Algerians and the French decided, almost too late, to handle it properly. There was blood shed, recriminations from the left (go figure), and hand wringing, but the problem did get solved.

Yes, some innocents were killed. A pilot friend of my father's was shot when he reached for the emergency brake at a road block. US Chevy with brake down by door, French brake in between the seats, you can guess the reaction when he reached the "wrong direction". But, again they had almost let it go too far.

I fear this time they decided to not learn from history, liberal hand wringing does slow progress, and the BS of multiculturalism will not die.

Question(s), why must WE be sensitive to others in our own country instead of them be sensitive to our heritage? Why must we worship at the alter of multiculturalism, when those that come here chose to ignore anything but their culture? Why does someone have to be a dash instead of an American?

So much crap and the libs love to wallow in it. :munchin :D

rdret1
11-21-2010, 19:54
I have heard (never been there) that there are entire areas within France and Germany and so forth where the police cannot go because you aren't even really in France or Germany anymore, you're in something else entirely, because unlike in America where our Muslims have to assimilate, their Muslims they have allowed to remain isolated and not assimilate. Hence Angela Merkel saying the experiment in multiculturalism has failed.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281074,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamberg,_New_York
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uRRihHAL-o

Here is some assimilation. The two guys in the video don't count as they obviously converted to Islam and stay in this "town".

CloseDanger
11-21-2010, 20:23
Last I read, France has over 580 areas police may not tread. It is a normal tactic employed in takeover of land. French "law" has allowed Sharia to be enacted in some localities flinging open the door to that recievership of law. Same in Turkey, Germany, and most of Europe are these dark craters of non-national law. Or, alien law if you will.

Don't worry, moslems have the same in store for US. See?... (http://frontpagemag.com/2010/07/09/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/)

blacksmoke
11-21-2010, 20:48
The police officer was wise not to shoot the thug threatening him with the baseball bat, even on camera. Look what happened to France last time a police officer "killed" an "innocent" muslim. I thank God that I live in a place where we have real men and women serving as police. I have no doubt that here in central Ohio, the 21 foot rule would have came into effect.

rdret1
11-21-2010, 20:52
I have no doubt that here in central Ohio, the 21 foot rule would have came into effect.

At least in NC, it definitely would have. As far as justification goes, he could have articulated that all day long without any trouble.

AngelsSix
11-21-2010, 21:10
I have heard (never been there) that there are entire areas within France and Germany and so forth where the police cannot go because you aren't even really in France or Germany anymore, you're in something else entirely, because unlike in America where our Muslims have to assimilate, their Muslims they have allowed to remain isolated and not assimilate. Hence Angela Merkel saying the experiment in multiculturalism has failed.


There are Muslim compounds and enclaves here in the US. There are gated communities here in the area (NC) that refuse to allow police in the gates unless they want them to come in. Sort of makes you wonder what they are hiding??:rolleyes:

Nightfall
11-21-2010, 21:19
Last I read, France has over 580 areas police may not tread. It is a normal tactic employed in takeover of land. French "law" has allowed Sharia to be enacted in some localities flinging open the door to that recievership of law. Same in Turkey, Germany, and most of Europe are these dark craters of non-national law. Or, alien law if you will.

Don't worry, moslems have the same in store for US. See?... (http://frontpagemag.com/2010/07/09/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/)

I've been reading these thinking to myself, "Wow, that wouldn't fly 'round these parts, MPD would be there with SWAT and tear gas, and there would be crap all over the news about MPD overreacting and so on... Then:

"The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life" - from this article, a group in Little Rock - way too close to home. Wow.

I have an idea, if American life is so depraved, then freakin move back where you came from. I've become quite sick of people coming here, then complaining about OUR way of life. Go home or go somewhere else. Heck, I'll even put together a fund to collect money to put you on a plane. Sorry...

akv
11-21-2010, 21:35
Maybe the French police came back in massive force?

Locally there has been an influx of darker skinned folks (Indians, Paki's, Arabs, etc.) many whom work at Sprint, whom are only interested in their children learning Math and Science and whom informed the Teachers and the School they wanted far less emphasis English, American History and Social Studies....because it is not as important as Math & Science. That is not assimilation.

Fascinating. There might well be a little known nexus between pigment and an inclination to work for Sprint. The lack of assimilation to "our culture" argument in this region possibly harkens back to the original Kansas City Chief, who reputedly grumbled to anyone in earshot at some point, " too many palefaces, there goes the neighborhood." However, a lack of assimilation argument makes more sense if these folks are keeping their kids in madrassas as opposed to pushing for more math and science, in the curriculum, for all the kids in an increasingly competitive and technologically savvy world. IMHO, while there is dignity in any job, is it a stretch to believe most parents would prefer a doctor or engineer in the family to the sum of their kids ambition being, " would you like fries with that?" It's a slippery slope, these people who emphasize math and science risk ending up with Bobby Jindal's and Nikki Haley's...

"The horror! The horror!"

wet dog
11-21-2010, 21:47
Geeeze, for a minute there I thought you were talking about Deerborn Mich.

Dearborn, MI - Arab
Columbus, OH - Samoli
San Diego, CA - Afghan

CloseDanger
11-21-2010, 22:01
Sharia law subjugates traditional and all other law to itself. Ergo, it is not religion. It is subjective. It is meant to subjugate people to foreign law. This is called sedition.

You may not have two standards of law. Murder is either murder, or it is not.
This is the most serious time the US has ever faced. Clarity is very much needed, and in these days, the rules from the past are forgotten.

Shame that.

Seeing many third world countries for what they are should convince you that they have yet to learn the lessons of the ages. But who knows, many here still vote as if tomorrow is a promise instead of a work agenda.

Wiseman
11-21-2010, 22:49
Are the Muslims living in those gated communities in NC causing trouble though?

Paslode
11-21-2010, 23:12
Maybe the French police came back in massive force?



Fascinating. There might well be a little known nexus between pigment and an inclination to work for Sprint. The lack of assimilation to "our culture" argument in this region possibly harkens back to the original Kansas City Chief, who reputedly grumbled to anyone in earshot at some point, " too many palefaces, there goes the neighborhood." However, a lack of assimilation argument makes more sense if these folks are keeping their kids in madrassas as opposed to pushing for more math and science, in the curriculum, for all the kids in an increasingly competitive and technologically savvy world. IMHO, while there is dignity in any job, is it a stretch to believe most parents would prefer a doctor or engineer in the family to the sum of their kids ambition being, " would you like fries with that?" It's a slippery slope, these people who emphasize math and science risk ending up with Bobby Jindal's and Nikki Haley's...

"The horror! The horror!"

The Kansas City Chiefs per-say were Kaw (Kanza), Wyandotte, Osage and Shawnee. Because we didn't assimilate with the native culture, most of what we have to show for that is a Shawnee Mission, Shawnee Mission, Kansas, the Shawnee Mission North Indians, the City of Shawnee, Olathe (Beautiful in Shawnee), Fort Osage, The Kaw River, Wyandotte County, Haskell University, Micosay, Order of the Arrow and of course the Kansas City Chiefs and Warpaint......and a yearly day or two where we marvel at the Real Indians crafts and customs at the Shawnee Mission or Old Shawnee Town.

It is a shame we don't have more to show, because there was much to be learned from their culture.


Jindal and Haley are good people and excellent examples of immigrants that assimilated. You will get no argument from me that Math and Science are extremely important these days, but IMO so are the host countries language, history and customs if your an immigrant planning to set up shop in said country. I don't care what color they are or where they come from. If they wish to immigrate here they need to learn more than math and science.

How would you like me to walk into your home and tell you what you need to do for me........in a nutshell that is what we are dealing with. And once it starts where will it end.

TOMAHAWK9521
11-22-2010, 00:20
Dearborn, MI - Arab
Columbus, OH - Samoli
San Diego, CA - Afghan

Greely, CO also has a major Somali problem. They are starting to feel their oats and are giving the Mexican gangs something to worry about.

A good friend of mine in LE said the issue with these 3rd world primitives is akin to what we learned in HS biology: that they come into a new environment with no natural enemies to keep their populations and activities in check. As a result, these ass-raping savages run amok knowing US laws are more of an impediment for the LE folks than for them.

wet dog
11-22-2010, 01:00
Greely, CO also has a major Somali problem. They are starting to feel their oats and are giving the Mexican gangs something to worry about.

A good friend of mine in LE said the issue with these 3rd world primitives is akin to what we learned in HS biology: that they come into a new environment with no natural enemies to keep their populations and activities in check. As a result, these ass-raping savages run amok knowing US laws are more of an impediment for the LE folks than for them.

Allow LE the ability to take the gloves off, or the gangs can play the Pit bulls against these fellas

Pete
11-22-2010, 05:48
We have Muslim enclaves here in America, but we don't have the problems with them rioting and fighting the police the way they tend to in Europe.

Yet

CoLawman
11-22-2010, 07:39
A couple of observations:
1. The Investigators never called for backup at the first sign of trouble. This scenario would have been different had they just called in officer needs assistance.

2. The Investigators appear reluctant to draw their guns opting to bluff their seriousness by merely putting their hands on their holstered guns.

3. Who parks their cars that far from the point of contact?

4. Time to get rid of the man purses!

Richard
11-22-2010, 07:53
Effin' gang punks. It would be interesting to know what the follow-up by the Gendarmerie was for this.

Richard :munchin

akv
11-22-2010, 11:13
You will get no argument from me that Math and Science are extremely important these days, but IMO so are the host countries language, history and customs if your an immigrant planning to set up shop in said country. I don't care what color they are or where they come from. If they wish to immigrate here they need to learn more than math and science. How would you like me to walk into your home and tell you what you need to do for me........in a nutshell that is what we are dealing with. And once it starts where will it end.

IMO with a house come the rights of private property, however isn't that different from a school? IIRC some of these madrassas in Europe, they keep their kids separate, and only teach Shariah etc, this is quite problematic, but this is very different from parents who enroll their kids in the local public school and then push for a pragmatic curriculum, English is absolutely important as is history, Are these folks proposing classes no longer be taught in English, or no more history, or are they pushing for an increased emphasis on math and science (which frankly is fatal to radical Islam.)

People don't like change. There was a time when French or Latin would have been the optimal second language to teach kids in school. In the world today if you want to give kids a leg up, while French sounds great, the optimal second language is likely Mandarin or Hindi. This isn't very traditional. Culture is learned and shared behavior and it evolves. As a nation of immigrants many of our traditions come from all different parts of the world. To me the question is are these people trying to join the community and make it better, even if the net outcome isn't what we are used too.

The notion of bringing home chinese takeout, after Xmas tree shopping in an ushanka, the day after Thanksgiving doesn't seem all that exotic, but consider how various immigrant cultures blended for this outcome.

1stindoor
11-22-2010, 11:36
To me the question is are these people trying to join the community and make it better, even if the net outcome isn't what we are used to...


If they were trying to "join" the community...and make it "better" we wouldn't be having this discussion. Now if you're willing to become a Muslim and follow their law...then I guess it would be better for you. Otherwise you're just one more infidel to be overtaken.

SF-TX
11-22-2010, 11:48
...or are they pushing for an increased emphasis on math and science (which frankly is fatal to radical Islam.)

Of course. Muslim doctors and engineers would never think of engaging in jihad.

SF-TX
11-22-2010, 12:10
The Educated Muslim Terrorist.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31203

akv
11-22-2010, 12:52
If they were trying to "join" the community...and make it "better" we wouldn't be having this discussion. Now if you're willing to become a Muslim and follow their law...then I guess it would be better for you. Otherwise you're just one more infidel to be overtaken.

Sir,

While a bit off topic to this thread, the specific reference Paslode and I were discussing involves a school in Kansas where parts of the community are pushing for a greater emphasis on math and science. While he felt this wasn't assimilation, my view was it was actually, in stark contrast to some of the stuff going on in Europe.


Of course. Muslim doctors and engineers would never think of engaging in jihad.

Sir,

A wise man once told me the nature of humanity is there will always be a certain number of turds or goldbricks in any organization. If the war we are fighting is against a religion, historically science, and the thought process entailed in the scientific method with the required burden of proof, is quite threatening across the board to fundamentalist faith based operating systems.

Or, more pragmatically as Greg Mortensen of Three Cups of Tea fame eloquently states. Most of the recruits for Jihad against the west come from poor Muslim kids who are brainwashed in fundamentalist madrassa schools. A lot of these illiterate kids in Pakistan/Afghanistan can't even read their own language, not to mention the Arabic the Koran comes in, so they have no basis for questioning extremist ideology. There is definitely a need for security first, you simply need to kill the local AQ and Taliban before you can build a school, however as he states going forward the secular schools he is building, particularly those who educate girls are our greatest weapon against radical Islam going forward, since it is directly attacking the madrassa recruiting base of our enemies.

Or if you prefer a historic argument, recall in the 1970's prior to the Soviet Invasion Afghanistan was Islamic, yet there were schools and women were allowed to be doctors, engineers etc. Afghanistan wasn't a modern Western democracy, but it wasn't safe haven for attacks against America either. The Russians pulled out and the Taliban came into the power vacuum and forced their medieval fundamentalism on to the Afghan people. They basically outlawed everything, and brutalized the lives of the people, particularly the women. The resulting environment of terror and fundamentalist madrassas, fostered an environment of safe haven and a recruiting nucleus for those who wish harm on America, with 9/11 as a result. This is the blue print for extremist Jihad, so either we simply kill every one in the region, or we figure out a way to stifle the calculus of insurgency going forward. While it's nice to help the Afghans etc, IMHO American security is the paramount goal, and developing these secular schools that push math and science are key to this accomplishing this goal.

Matt B
11-22-2010, 13:52
Cops here are caught between a rock and a hard place. Those no goods on one side and the politicians on the other.

Paslode
11-22-2010, 14:31
Are these folks proposing classes no longer be taught in English, or no more history, or are they pushing for an increased emphasis on math and science.

They would like increased emphasis on math and science, and are of the mind that learning the other studies will have little impact on their children s performance in the growing global market.

But it is a public school and there are other students who would benefit from a broader educational experience. It would be my opinion that if they want that type of curriculum they should look into Private Schooling on their own dime or an advanced program (which is available if your child shows the ability) within their school district or an adjacent school district.

akv
11-22-2010, 15:06
But it is a public school and there are other students who would benefit from a broader educational experience. It would be my opinion that if they want that type of curriculum they should look into Private Schooling on their own dime or an advanced program (which is available if your child shows the ability) within their school district or an adjacent school district.

I see, while I do think tougher math and science for our kids is important to be competitive , IMHO an American public school which shelves US or local history or English is a gross disservice to the students. What really bothers me is the flag and pledge of allegiance guff. Someone smart needs to explain to me what is wrong with honoring and displaying our flag prominently, and pledging allegiance to America?

greenberetTFS
11-22-2010, 16:28
I've been reading these thinking to myself, "Wow, that wouldn't fly 'round these parts, MPD would be there with SWAT and tear gas, and there would be crap all over the news about MPD overreacting and so on... Then:

"The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life" - from this article, a group in Little Rock - way too close to home. Wow.

I have an idea, if American life is so depraved, then freakin move back where you came from. I've become quite sick of people coming here, then complaining about OUR way of life. Go home or go somewhere else. Heck, I'll even put together a fund to collect money to put you on a plane. Sorry...

This young man is totally right about Mississippi LEO's,s**t like this would never,ever be put up with by them,let alone that they would run away........... :mad: Never!,at least the ones I know.....:mad:

Big Teddy :munchin

T-Rock
11-22-2010, 18:36
Are the Muslims living in those gated communities in NC causing trouble though?

Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doOKvN46go4

http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2010/10/inspire-al-qaedas-deathstyle-magazine.html

It’s the doctrine of al-Hijra
http://moderndaytrojanhorse.com/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/the_hijra.html

:munchin

AngelsSix
11-22-2010, 19:54
Yet

My thoughts exactly! Sleepers, indeed.

steel71
11-23-2010, 11:24
Who do you blame? The aliens to their culture, or the leftest buffoons who advocated for these policies?

The Reaper
11-23-2010, 12:11
Who do you blame? The aliens to their culture, or the leftest buffoons who advocated for these policies?

Both.

TR