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I want to share this video with all of you because so often when I read the threads about islam, I see pro and con. Its rare that we see a Christian convert from islam speak out so vehemently against it. Walid Shoebat is a confessed terrorist born to an Arab muslim and an American Christian mother. What he says about his mother brought tears to my eyes.
How anyone can defend them with all the evidence in front of us is beyond me. We read books, watch speeches, listen to news and editorials about the jihad going on in our country but most of those come from non-muslims. That does not detract from the truth but I think hearing it from Shoebat (and I would hope there would be more), is a huckleberry. I have heard him speak many times but not this passionate!
This is a good piece of video, please give it a watch. It's 27 minutes long but worth your time. He is asking America to wake up, he is speaking about the "double speak" of a "peaceful" ideology and there is so much more.
http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-shoebat-fired-up-at-six-flags
I want to share this video with all of you because so often when I read the threads about islam, I see pro and con. Its rare that we see a Christian convert from islam speak out so vehemently against it. Walid Shoebat is a confessed terrorist born to an Arab muslim and an American Christian mother. What he says about his mother brought tears to my eyes.
How anyone can defend them with all the evidence in front of us is beyond me. We read books, watch speeches, listen to news and editorials about the jihad going on in our country but most of those come from non-muslims. That does not detract from the truth but I think hearing it from Shoebat (and I would hope there would be more), is a huckleberry. I have heard him speak many times but not this passionate!
This is a good piece of video, please give it a watch. It's 27 minutes long but worth your time. He is asking America to wake up, he is speaking about the "double speak" of a "peaceful" ideology and there is so much more.
http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-shoebat-fired-up-at-six-flags
Just wanted to mention, after watching this, a friend of Walid's who goes on speech circuits with him, Kamal Saleem, (who's book is brought up in this thread http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27032&highlight=Blood+Lambs ). I find it amazing how quickly people are willing to denounce these guys. Or how quickly people will agree with groups like CAIR, on their assessments of the men.
My mother was talking to me about him some time back. I hadn't heard of him at that time and did some looking. I was surprised at how many islamic groups try to say he was never a terrorist, wasn't born where he says he was, did not commit the acts of terrorism in Israel that he says he did, etc. They try to dicredit him and his friends any way they can.
They try to dicredit him and his friends any way they can.
The simple fact there’s a ginormous effort underway by Muslims to discredit him causes me to watch more closely what he says…
I’m glad he called out the “peaceful” Sufis during that clip, considering they have a long history of Jihadi Squadrons and the institution of dhimmitude.
Ibn Taymiyyah, the author of “The Madinan Way,” was himself a Sufi, and so was his mentor, Khwaja Abdullah Ansari.
[O]ne must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non—Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl? al—Kitab [People of The Book — primarily Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked...One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need... (Al - Ghazali - the great Sufi -(1058 - 1111)
[T]he dhimmi is obliged not to mention Allah or His Apostle...Jews, Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [poll tax on non—Muslims]...on offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the protruberant bone beneath his ear [i.e., the mandible]... They are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells...their houses may not be higher than the Muslim's, no matter how low that is. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle [—work] is of wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the [public] baths...[dhimmis] must hold their tongue.…(Al - Ghazali - the great Sufi -(1058 - 1111)
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj/
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/05/sufi_jihad.html
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The simple fact there’s a ginormous effort underway by Muslims to discredit him causes me to watch more closely what he says…
I’m glad he called out the “peaceful” Sufis during that clip, considering they have a long history of Jihadi Squadrons and the institution of dhimmitude.
Ibn Taymiyyah, the author of “The Madinan Way,” was himself a Sufi, and so was his mentor, Khwaja Abdullah Ansari.
[O]ne must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non—Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl? al—Kitab [People of The Book — primarily Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked...One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need... (Al - Ghazali - the great Sufi -(1058 - 1111)
[T]he dhimmi is obliged not to mention Allah or His Apostle...Jews, Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [poll tax on non—Muslims]...on offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the protruberant bone beneath his ear [i.e., the mandible]... They are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells...their houses may not be higher than the Muslim's, no matter how low that is. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle [—work] is of wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the [public] baths...[dhimmis] must hold their tongue.…(Al - Ghazali - the great Sufi -(1058 - 1111)
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj/
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/05/sufi_jihad.html
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TRock, I was always under the impression (and probably because somebody had told me this some time ago) that the Sufis were a bunch o' long haired, dope smoking hippies, that sang and danced, etc. This was the first time I heard anything to the contrary.
I first heard of Shoebat when I watched Fitna by Geert Wilders (an outstanding documentary). Then I started to look for him more and more and whenever he was on TV, I would sit and listen. They may be trying to discredit him but what surprises me is that there is no fatwa against him. I have heard of other former muslims that had been speaking out and they had to go into hiding because of death threats.
TRock, I was always under the impression (and probably because somebody had told me this some time ago) that the Sufis were a bunch o' long haired, dope smoking hippies, that sang and danced, etc. This was the first time I heard anything to the contrary.
I was under the same impression as well until I read Dr. Bostom's book which contains an impressive range of primary and secondary source documents. His book, "The Legacy of Jihad," contains some of the writings of Al - Ghazali who's heralded as one of the greatest Sufi's.
"[T]he dhimmi cannot be a witness, except in matters concerning other dhimmis"
"They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the [public] baths...[dhimmis] must hold their tongue.…"(Al - Ghazali)
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Jihad-Islamic-Holy-Non-Muslims/dp/1591023076
^ The dhimmi kafir are not treated a whole lot differently than the Jews of Mein Kampf...sounds too familiar, the Byzantines, Armenians, Jews, and the Kafiroon (dhimmis)...
Al - Ghazali's writings show how the institution of dhimmitude is a normal feature of Islam cast upon the kafiroon. Al - Ghazali's writings lay to rest the celebrated myth that has been created via western imagination.
Walid points out the Sufi Myth @ 2:02
I was under the same impression as well until I read Dr. Bostom's book which contains an impressive range of primary and secondary source documents. His book, "The Legacy of Jihad," contains some of the writings of Al - Ghazali who's heralded as one of the greatest Sufi's.
"[T]he dhimmi cannot be a witness, except in matters concerning other dhimmis"
"They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the [public] baths...[dhimmis] must hold their tongue.…"(Al - Ghazali)
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Jihad-Islamic-Holy-Non-Muslims/dp/1591023076
^ The dhimmi kafir are not treated a whole lot differently than the Jews of Mein Kampf...sounds too familiar, the Byzantines, Armenians, Jews, and the Kafiroon (dhimmis)...
Al - Ghazali's writings show how the institution of dhimmitude is a normal feature of Islam cast upon the kafiroon. Al - Ghazali's writings lay to rest the celebrated myth that has been created via western imagination.
Walid points out the Sufi Myth @ 2:02
As soon as I read that, reminded me of the nazis. Oddly enough, those dhimmis accuse all of us being nazis.
I don't know how I overlooked Nonie Darwish, another muslim that converted to Christianity and has the courage to speak out against islam.
http://www.resistnet.com/group/wethepeoplemarchonwashington/forum/topics/joys-of-muslim-women-4
Joys of Muslim Women
by Nonie Darwish
In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the West World ( America ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Cruel and Usual Punishment is her latest book just released in most bookstores.
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old, her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel ... He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .
When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.
Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual, Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world. Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism. It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petrodollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President by themselves ! I think everyone in the U..S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
This is your chance to make a difference...!