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JJ_BPK
10-04-2010, 04:55
PFC RT2D2 "Reporting for duty, SIR... "




THE US military wants computers to aim its soldiers' guns for them - but are they as accurate as human operators?

Next year, they'll find out after the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) recently awarded a US$6.9m contract to Lockheed Martin to develop its "One-Shot" system.

FOX News reports the One Shot system "will provide direct observations of a target, measure every variable that influences a bullet’s flight, and calculate the aim offset in a sniper’s rifle scope".

The project has been in development since 2007, and so far has successfully trialled a system that canvasses average crosswind and target range as well as air temperature, pressure and velocity.


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http://www.news.com.au/technology/snipers-to-get-guaranteed-one-shot-rifles/story-e6frfro0-1225933787255?area=technology#ixzz11O0IxF4y

Paslode
10-04-2010, 07:42
I would wager that you will be able to hook the scope up to that new issued SmartPhone to upload new ballistics data and receive technical support :rolleyes:

Sinister
10-04-2010, 08:17
I'll wager that the money spent on the R&D, testing, and life cycle of whatever gets bought could have bought generations of Soldiers a LOT of ammo and training.

Just sayin'.

theis223
10-04-2010, 08:29
When we go to the next war I hope the first thing that happens is a great big EMP. Ignore the guys shaking their useless phones and tapping on keyboards and screens. Follow the guys circling his hand above his head. :lifter

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30510&highlight=smart+phones

mark46th
10-04-2010, 09:18
I was never a sniper but from what I understand, the shooting is the easy part. Getting out was the hard part.

longrange1947
10-04-2010, 10:50
I will only mention "Project White Feather". :munchin :D

2018commo
10-04-2010, 10:55
There are a few of these already, they are teaching at SWCS and it took over 50 years to make them. A plus is that they can multitask, conduct reconnaissance undetected for two weeks without firing the critical shot, teach indigenous forces and even breed new SF Soldiers. Good luck DARPA...

The Reaper
10-04-2010, 11:08
If you can do this, why do you need a man behind the gun?

Just install a solenoid and air drop them all over the countryside, like drones. People watch the camera feeds, zoom in and select a target, and push a button. Bam.

TR

blue02hd
10-04-2010, 11:11
If you can do this, why do you need a man behind the gun?

Just install a solenoid and air drop them all over the countryside, like drones. People watch the camera feeds, zoom in and select a target, and push a button. Bam.

TR

After 5 buttons, can they file for PTSD from their newly issued smart phones?

Fonzy
10-04-2010, 20:37
After 5 buttons, can they file for PTSD from their newly issued smart phones?

If they have the right app

Bill Harsey
10-23-2010, 09:35
The good news of course is high tech stuff never gets glitchy or fails.

Peregrino
10-23-2010, 09:44
I doubt DARPA will be making the front page of the Paraglide any time soon. :munchin

http://paraglideonline.net/102110_news1.html

These are real snipers - and outstanding representatives of their community.

longrange1947
10-23-2010, 09:53
Not mentioned in that article is the fact that the number two team in the open class was also made up by two of our instructors. :lifter

And no, I have never seen a machine even come close to analyzing weather effects. The reference to White Feather was a multi-million dollar failure in the 90s. While myself and another instructor called winds for two separate shooters of "Left 1.25 mils" the machine called "Right .25 mils" for two shooters following those calls. Guess who missed the targets. :munchin

And for you smarta**es that said me, wrong! :D

akv
10-23-2010, 10:43
The reference to White Feather was a multi-million dollar failure in the 90s.

I was hoping Project White Feather was a study of the late GySgt. Carlos Hathcock, as proof of what a skilled brave man can accomplish.

CSB
10-24-2010, 09:44
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA367672

5. CONCLUSIONS
Snipers are a remarkable breed. Given the multitude of factors that can cause a bullet to
miss its intended target, some of which this report has attempted to quantify, it is a wonder that
shooters are consistently able to hit anything, especially at extended ranges. Humans are, of
course, the ultimate fire control system. Science will never supplant a trained shooter.
Technology can only augment the skills that they already possess. However, necessary bravado
aside, snipers tend to only remember that one remarkable shot in combat at 800 m. They
overlook the number of rounds it takes to zero a weapon or to “walk” that competition-winning
group onto a target at the firing range. They attribute any “flyer” in a group to fate. When
pressed, however, they acknowledge that they could use some help reaching those long-distance
targets.

Not surprisingly, this analysis showed range and crosswind to be two large error sources.
A device that could account for those factors would go a long way in improving first-round hit
probability. As shown for the 300 WM round against a human-sized target at 700 m, given the
assumed firing conditions, a stand-alone crosswind sensor would double the PH of a standard
rifle, while a complete fire control system would triple it. Even after correcting for as many error
sources as practical, however, it becomes apparent that the inherent inaccuracy of the bullets at
those ranges becomes the dominating factor. The most effective fire control system needs to be
combined with an ultra-accurate rifle-ammunition system.

As long as bullets are being hurled down range at supersonic speeds, the science of ballistics
will govern where it lands. Just as optical scopes were an improvement over iron sights and
range finders removed some of the guesswork from range estimation, the fire control proposed in
this report will aid the sniper in determining that all-important ballistic correction. It is only
fitting to strive to provide snipers with the best tools available so that they can do their job as
well as possible and thus survive to shoot another day.

longrange1947
10-24-2010, 17:58
I remember every miss and a good sniper team works together to make a hit. Yes there are misses, but walking a bullet onto target does not work anywhere except on a range. Humans have this tendency to run and duck when fired upon. Keeping good dope, have an accurate rifle and yes ammunition, as that is the main limiting factor, is paramount. WE could also use gyro stabilized rifles (even the slightest movement takes you off target at anything over 800 meters), lasers in the 30 milliwatt range and few other "nice to have items". :munchin

Project White Feather was a money sink hole for almost a decade fo wasted money and false promises with the little behind the panel pulling levers. If this company can prove, on it's own dime, that they have a working model, I am all for it.

IF it is another, "give us another 5 mill and I am sure we will get it this year", then they can kiss my a**. Project White Feather should have been dropped after the first three years of stunning failure.