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Fonzy
09-05-2010, 22:25
Maybe Obama should be taking notes?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/04/france.anti.crime.protest/index.html?hpt=T1

Paris, France (CNN) -- Hurling insults against French President Nicolas Sarkozy, crowds of demonstrators marched through the boulevards of eastern Paris to protest his anti-crime measures.
Organized by 50 human rights and activist groups, labor unions and political opponents of Sarkozy the cortege of protesters at one point stretched a mile and a half from the Place de La Republique to the Place de la Bastille, where a stained French flag was hung on a central monument. Organizers said 50,000 filled the streets, though police put the official estimate at 12,000.
Referring to France's contentious role in World War II, protesters held up signs such as "Sarkozy, son of Petain," referring to Marshal Philippe Petain, who led the pro-Nazi Vichy regime.
Organizers said about 130 cities in France are seeing similar protests against Sarkozy's so-called crime-busting proposals which have led to the expulsion of more than 8,000 Roma, commonly known as Gypsies.
Saturday's protests erupted after the recent raids against camps in Lyon and other cities that forced out a total of 8,300 Romanian and Bulgarian nationals of Roma origin. Close to 10,000 were expelled in 2009.
Roma are a group of people who live mainly in southern and eastern Europe, often in poverty. They tend to live in camps, caravans, or informal settlements and have been the target of persecution throughout history.
But the Roma are not the sole targets of the recent anti-immigration security measures proposed by the French government, protesters claim.
Groups representing other causes voiced their concerns at the Paris rally as well, including advocates of illegal immigrants and demonstrators demanding better housing.
<b>After recent anti-police attacks, the country's parliament is considering new laws to take away French citizenship from naturalized immigrants guilty of crimes like attacks on police, polygamy or female circumcision, traditions associated with some immigrant groups.</b>
Some believe Sarkozy's approach of blaming immigrants for security problems flies in the face of France's democratic fundamentals -- liberty, equality and fraternity.
"He is not fighting crime ... He is deliberately putting into question the basic principles of republican equality, and what is already an extremely serious social and economic crisis now threatens the cohesion of all society," organizations supporting the protests said in a statement posted on the Education Without Borders Network's website Saturday.
When he announced the proposals in July, Sarkozy said French citizenship was a privilege.
"One must earn French nationality and be worthy of it," he said. "Anyone who fires on an agent enforcing order no longer deserves to be French."
Immigration policy has long been a top issue for the conservative Sarkozy. As interior minister, he advocated the deportation of foreign nationals caught in violent riots across France in 2005.
But the recent crackdowns have drawn criticism even within Sarkozy's government. Local media reported that Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said he was shocked by the president's anti-crime proposals.
Last month's ousting of Roma gypsies without valid identity papers -- drew international criticism with some comparing it to the deportation of Jews during World War II. Something the government said was absurd since those being expelled were being sent back to their homelands with financial compensation of 300 euros ($381) per adult and 100 euros ($127) per
child, Frances immigration ministry said.
French officials have said the deportations are part of a broader crackdown on illegal immigration.
In his July speech, Sarkozy said France needs better immigration regulations.
"We are suffering from the consequences of 50 years of inadequately controlled immigration that led to a failure of integration," he said. "We are so proud of our system of integration, but perhaps we should wake up to see what it has produced. It has worked. It works no longer."

mojaveman
09-18-2010, 06:55
Interesting post.

Guess where all of the Roma, also known as "Gypsies" go after they've been run out of the Republic of France?

Why Deutschland of course!

I was in Frankfurt a few days ago and saw scores of them camped out on the streets around the Hauptbahnhof downtown. I felt so sorry for one woman who was sitting there with her kids that I gave her a few Euros.

Vielen Dank President Sarkozy!

What the hell are the Germans going to do now? Teach the Roma how to make Wienerschnitzel? :p

Red Flag 1
09-18-2010, 07:36
Interesting post.

Guess where all of the Roma, also known as "Gypsies" go after they're run out of the Republic of France?

Why Deutschland of course!

I was in Frankfurt a few days ago and saw scores of them camped out on the streets around the Hauptbahnhof downtown. I felt so sorry for one woman who was sitting there with a few kids that I gave her a few Euros.

Vielen Dank President Sarkozy!

What the hell are the Germans going to do now? Teach the Roma how to make Wienerschnitzel? :p

Germany has a long history of marching on France. In years gone by, all they needed was a helmet and a rifle.:D:D

RF 1

Oldrotorhead
09-18-2010, 08:04
Interesting post.

Guess where all of the Roma, also known as "Gypsies" go after they've been run out of the Republic of France?

Why Deutschland of course!

I was in Frankfurt a few days ago and saw scores of them camped out on the streets around the Hauptbahnhof downtown. I felt so sorry for one woman who was sitting there with her kids that I gave her a few Euros.

Vielen Dank President Sarkozy!

What the hell are the Germans going to do now? Teach the Roma how to make Wienerschnitzel? :p

I have had the experience of being swarmed by the kid trying to pick my pocket after refusing their attempts to beg. I don't like dealing with a culture that for generations has made a living begging and stealing. Not all of the Roma live like this mind you, just all of the visable Roma. :munchin

The Reaper
09-18-2010, 08:50
I have had the experience of being swarmed by the kid trying to pick my pocket after refusing their attempts to beg. I don't like dealing with a culture that for generations has made a living begging and stealing. Not all of the Roma live like this mind you, just all of the visable Roma. :munchin

I agree.

It is their chosen way of life.

TR

mojaveman
09-18-2010, 09:10
I have had the experience of being swarmed by the kid trying to pick my pocket after refusing their attempts to beg. I don't like dealing with a culture that for generations has made a living begging and stealing. Not all of the Roma live like this mind you, just all of the visable Roma. :munchin

All true.

It wasn't the adults that I felt empathy for but rather the children who were being indoctrinated by that culture.

You should see some of the houses that the "poor" Roma own in Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, etc.

Organized crime?

JJ_BPK
09-18-2010, 09:36
Interesting post.

Guess where all of the Roma, also known as "Gypsies" go after they've been run out of the Republic of France?

Why Deutschland of course!

I was in Frankfurt a few days ago and saw scores of them camped out on the streets around the Hauptbahnhof downtown. I felt so sorry for one woman who was sitting there with her kids that I gave her a few Euros.

Vielen Dank President Sarkozy!

What the hell are the Germans going to do now?
Teach the Roma how to make Wienerschnitzel? :p

Roma?? Gypsies??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSZwEwl_1Q

Have been a bane to Europe for a 1000 years..

200 years ago the Europeans elite encouraged them because of the cheap transient seasonal labor..

100 years ago the Socialist & Marxist continued to encourage their Comrade Roma as a source of cheep labor and guaranteed votes for the Party.

50 years ago they had an epiphany, merged with the hippies, grew pot, organized syndicates and became a crime statistic..

Now the Muslim "Roma" are doing the same.. in the names of allah...

:munchin

JJ_BPK
09-18-2010, 10:34
Least we forget the American "Roma",, The Irish Travelers..

http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/10-02/10-28-02/a13lo072.htm

http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/travellers.html

They probably would be swept under the carpet as thieving two-bit carney's with a penchant for incest-based polygamy.

If not for the outrageous thievery they perpetrated after Hurricane Andrew in South Florida, and I suspect Hurricane Katrina, few would know of their existence.

Oh,, Well,, Bert Reynolds did made them semi-famous in Deliverance.

"I bet you can squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee! "