View Full Version : Stolen Valor Act tossed...(Hall of Shame is locked)
Concerning this thread: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=344245&postcount=1
I think I'll start introducing myself as a Supreme Court Justice. Yea, that's the ticket!
Pat
Exactly! Based on that decision of the 9th Jerkit, I should have the right to be anyone I so chose and profit from the ruse without any retribution.
I could be the POTUS, with a phony Birth Cert and Passport.....Just saying :D
So does this mean if I get dragged into court I can lie with no repercussion? :confused:
So does this mean if I get dragged into court I can lie? :confused:
Yes. Saying your Charlie Rangel should get you out of 99.9999% of anything.
The line that doesn't harm anyone is a crock considering that many of these POS use their bogus credentials to gain access to jobs in areas like LE, Security and Training. Or as like that asshat profiled last week in the HoS he was trying to run rescue efforts.
olhamada
08-18-2010, 18:58
Our nation seems to be CTD.
219seminole
08-18-2010, 18:59
So, if I go around telling people I am a lawyer that's OK? I can tell people I am a physician? I don't think this issue has died yet.
From what I understand, that is still illegal. You cannot impersonate people like that in jobs and such.
But it can't be held up that if you dress up like a cop or soldier or something, you're under arrest.
It's the difference between dressing up like a Ranger for Halloween and pretending to have been a Ranger to get a job in something.
Richard eluded to that as well.
I can only think of a few reasons someone would dress up, and you mention one. Anything else I can think of is for the purpose of misleading and to profit in one form or another.
Portraying yourself in such manner is no different (IMO) than dressing your car up with red/blue/strobe lights with a siren and loudspeaker.....which in my neck of the woods is illegal, regardless of your intentions.
nousdefions
08-19-2010, 08:37
The next traffic ticket I get, I'm going to show up in judge's robes and insist on being addressed as "your honor". /rant off
Utah Bob
08-19-2010, 08:44
Richard's post in the Hall of Shame thread:
The law was not written well, and all that means is that if the SCOTUS weighs in and also knocks it down as unconstitutional, Congress just needs to go back to the drawing board. So this is definitely not the end of the line for the Stolen Valor Act. I believe they will keep trying until they find a wording that passes muster.
Exactly.
If prosecutors cannot successfully argue that the SVA passes Constitutional muster, new legislation will be devised.
It's not the end of the world. These idiots have been doing this for decades and the SVA is only 3 years old and very few cases have been prosecuted (mostly due to case loads, priorities and lack of interest.
So does this mean if I get dragged into court I can lie with no repercussion? :confused:
I wouldn't try that once you were sworn in. ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
CombatMuffin
08-19-2010, 10:46
While it doesn't apply to me, I am severely discontent with this happening.
Its pure speculation on my part, but it is most likely just a clever lawyer's workaround to a lost case through an appeal, which will now allow people to disrespect the very people that help them protect that 1st Amendment they so claim to promote.
I am all for freedom of speech, but where is the honor and morality in all of this? Even those in movies and TV are required(most times) to specifically state their account is a fictitious representation...
So now a person in the States can go around, dressed like a War Hero and as long as he has a clever lawyer to prove his profits are not directly tied to the awards and uniform he is wearing improperly, he's free to go around and claiming to do what he didn't.
So where does the honor and service of the people placing themselves in harm's way go? In my view, it potentially disrespects every member of the armed forces who works hard to earn the right to wear that uniform, let alone those who went as far as paying it with blood.
Hopefully legislators will move quickly to reform a new version which is found legally valid.
1stindoor
08-19-2010, 11:01
The next traffic ticket I get, I'm going to show up in judge's robes and insist on being addressed as "your honor". /rant off
Beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing. From now on all of us should proclaim ourselves to be judges.
Kyobanim
08-19-2010, 11:24
From now on all of us should proclaim ourselves to be judges.
You mean I can't be President Kyo any more?
You mean I can't be President Kyo any more?
Emperor is still open. :D
:munchin
Emperor is still open. :D
:munchin
Don't bet on it!