The Movie....The Green Berets [Archive] - Professional Soldiers ®

Sdiver

08-08-2004, 23:24

Well, I'm sitting here watching the movie, The Green Berets on AMC, for the um-tenth time.

It's always good for a laugh.....not the movie itself guys, just some of the special effects. Like when Col. Kirby (The Duke) is bringing the Mike Force in and his Helo gets hit and goes down. Great Special Effects. :D Although I will say the the fire burn that the Crew Chief/Door Gunner does is really good.

Anyway...Knowing that he (The Duke) filmed the movie in and around Ft. Bragg, is the set for Camp A-107 still around there or was it taken down after filming?

Also another question I have is, at the begining of the film, when The Duke, aka Col. Kirby (That's such a COOL last name :D )brings the A-Team into VN and they're met at the "Da Nang" airfield, and Col. Morgan gets Col. Kirby over to his jeep. Col. Morgans driver is an E-2. Now knowing that when The Duke made this film, he wanted to use alot of AD SF. I always thought that you had to be at least an E-4 (promotable) even back then, to wear the Beret. Could it be, or is that just another "Hollywood" moment?

Well gotta go. The Duke and his Team are about to jump outta the Helo in broad daylight, behind enemy lines. You know the one....where he forgets to Hook up and is shuffeling to the door.....

NousDefionsDoc

08-08-2004, 23:39

Thin ice Mud Puppy, thin ice.

Sdiver

08-09-2004, 00:30

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Thin ice Mud Puppy, thin ice.

Didn't mean to offend. :D

If anyone knows, I knew/know it would be you.

Kyobanim

08-09-2004, 03:26

I thought the base camp scenes were filmed at Benning.

brewmonkey

08-09-2004, 06:10

Originally posted by Sdiver
Didn't mean to offend. :D

If anyone knows, I knew/know it would be you.

Don't be talking smack about the Duke!!!

QRQ 30

08-09-2004, 06:51

There was a Vietnamese village in the Gabriel demonstration area. I don't knoe if the Gabriel area even exists today.

I don't recall the driver but is it possible he was a Pfc E-3. Stripes were different then. In addition while I was in Germany we had a Pfc George Allen in the Company. He also had a CMB and had held every rank up to and including SFC. The Col once said that if he could keep George in the field he would be a sergeant major. Promotions weren't as restrictive and structured in the early sisties. In addition, I was a Pfc when I graduated in Training Group. We didn't get any promotions in Training Group higher than Pfc E-3. I think the medics may have received one stripe upon promotion. I didn't make SP4 until I had been in the 10th SFG for several months.

It was entirely possible and even probable that a Pfc would be the CO's driver. If he did well a stripe usually resulted.

Things were different. We had just returned from a Joint FCX with the British SAS. When we returned, LYT Faistenheimer was in our team room and congratulating me on a job well done. The team sergeant, MSG Valenzuela told the Col: "If you think he is that good, don't shake his hand, promote him." Within the week I was promoted to SSG.

QRQ 30

08-09-2004, 06:59

Does this answer your question?

The Reaper

08-09-2004, 07:38

The base camp from the Green Berets" is/was at Ft. Benning. We assaulted the camp there back in 1980. It was in a regular maneuver area and was not preserved.

You can see the Airborne School Towers in several shots from the film.

There is no "Gabe Area" for demos any more. In fact, a lot of the MATA Mile over by Gruber Road has been encroached on as well. Smoke Bomb Hill is CA/PSYOP/Engineer Land now days. SWCS is the closest thing to SF in the area.

TR

Kyobanim

08-09-2004, 07:47

Originally posted by The Reaper
The base camp from the Green Berets" is/was at Ft. Benning. We assaulted the camp there back in 1980. It was in a regular maneuver area and was not preserved.

TR

I thought so. I also assaulted that hill, several times. I remember the Drill telling us about the Green Beret's being filmed there.

Jack Moroney (RIP)

08-09-2004, 09:36

Originally posted by Sdiver
Well, I'm sitting here watching the movie, The Green Berets on AMC, for the um-tenth time.

They sent this movie to us while I was the commander at Ben Het before they sent it around to the other camps. I think the thing that got us all was the quote from one of the guys in the mortar pit that went something like, "They are in the wire fire charge four !". Always wondered just how far back that they pushed that wire when the SEABEES were called in to clear back the brush. Then again, maybe they just wanted to fire it straight up in the air as far as they could to give themselves time to pull back under the cover of their own mortars. Damn, just got to love hollywood:D

Jack Moroney

NousDefionsDoc

08-09-2004, 09:42

Then again, maybe they just wanted to fire it straight up in the air as far as they could to give themselves time to pull back under the cover of their own mortars.

LOL - seems like I've heard of that technique somewhere.

Rocky Farr used to be found of saying "I jumped into John Wayne's A Camp on Benning in 1968."

Tuukka

08-09-2004, 10:12

Any guesses on the origin of John Waynes character?

QRQ 30

08-09-2004, 10:26

Is this what you're talking about Sir? This is the 4.2 pit at Dak To.:D :D :D

Sdiver

08-09-2004, 10:29

Thanks Gents.....My Bad....It was Benning not Bragg that, the camp is at. I thought it might still be up.

QRQ 30....yes, "Renyolds", Col. Morgan's driver in the movie, does have a single stripe on. Didn't know that was a pfc back then. Thanks.

Kyobanim

08-09-2004, 10:49

Originally posted by Jack Moroney
They sent this movie to us while I was the commander at Ben Het before they sent it around to the other camps. I think the thing that got us all was the quote from one of the guys in the mortar pit that went something like, "They are in the wire fire charge four !". Always wondered just how far back that they pushed that wire when the SEABEES were called in to clear back the brush. Then again, maybe they just wanted to fire it straight up in the air as far as they could to give themselves time to pull back under the cover of their own mortars. Damn, just got to love hollywood:D

Jack Moroney

I was watching this last night when that line came up. He said charge 7 and I said WTF? I also wondered if they wanted to see how high they could get the round to go. I love the movies. :D

QRQ - That's not a mortar pit, that's a mortar condo!

Guy

08-09-2004, 13:01

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
LOL - seems like I've heard of that technique somewhere.

I'm pretty sure one tried that technique here...ONCE!

The wife and I watched it last night also.

Bravo1-3

08-09-2004, 13:20

Charge 7?

Maybe he was ordering a retaliatory strike against Hanoi or something.

QRQ 30

08-09-2004, 13:21

I was at Khe Sahn when the movie was distributed in RVN and didn't see it until much later. We had an outside "Drive-in Movie" set up for the Yards in Kontum. We used sheets for the screen and had to change them about once a week because of the bullet holes. The Yards loved to shoot up the bad guys in westerns. When I returned to FOB-2 I was told they had to change the sceen daily. The yards really got carried away helping the SF repel the hords in the wire.:munchin

BTW: "Combat" with Vic Morrow was the most popular TV series on AFVN-TV

Bravo1-3

08-09-2004, 13:27

Sir, that is easily oneof the three funniest stories I've ever heard about Vietnam. :D

Sdiver

08-09-2004, 13:31

Originally posted by QRQ 30
I was at Khe Sahn when the movie was distributed in RVN and didn't see it until much later. We had an outside "Drive-in Movie" set up for the Yards in Kontum. We used sheets for the screen and had to change them about once a week because of the bullet holes. The Yards loved to shoot up the bad guys in westerns. When I returned to FOB-2 I was told they had to change the sceen daily. The yards really got carried away helping the SF repel the hords in the wire.:munchin

BTW: "Combat" with Vic Morrow was the most popular TV series on AFVN-TV

LOL...Great story.

BTW....there was a "Kirby" character in to show COMBAT. Maybe that's where JW got his insperation for a Col. Kirby.:D

Jack Moroney (RIP)

08-09-2004, 13:52

Originally posted by QRQ 30
I We had an outside "Drive-in Movie" set up for the Yards in Kontum.

We did much the same thing for them at Mang Buk, but because we were isolated we had to make sure we had local security operations extra heavy and outside of mortar and rocket range on the evening we showed flicks. They loved Clint Eastwood movies and we had Eastwood groupies. They would show up the next day with those indigenous ponchos draped overthem like serapes (sp?). Like most we had cows brought in for slaughter and had a pretty sizeable herd. Got to the point where the Team Sergeant got a bunch of black stetsons sent in and the yards thought that was great. They all wanted to take turns working the herd and wearing the stetsons.

Jack Moroney:D

Pandora

08-09-2004, 21:09

I'm so dense I googled "Special Forces +Kirby" as a Google reference...

I guess I am just too darn young to "get" old movie references?

:D

Ambush Master

08-09-2004, 21:25

Originally posted by Pandora
I'm so dense I googled "Special Forces +Kirby" as a Google reference...

I guess I am just too darn young to "get" old movie references?

:D

Ye Google be weak !!! First shot Green Beret+Kirby= http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063035/

The name of the movie=The Green Beret !!

Take care.
Martin

The Reaper

08-09-2004, 21:32

Looks like the question is answered in the link AM pointed out.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063035/trivia

The movie is based on the book.

"In the book, the "Green Berets" by Robin Moore, the main character is based on Major Larry Thorne (originally Lauri TÃ¶rni, a Finnish soldier who moved to USA after WWII)."

Thorne was a legend.

TR

brownapple

08-10-2004, 09:28

Originally posted by The Reaper

Thorne was a legend.

That he was. His remains were recovered not all that long ago if I remember correctly.

Tuukka

08-10-2004, 09:41

I knew i could trust you guys to remember the man, a true legend among men out here as well.

Remains recovered and buried at Arlington.

rudelsg2

08-10-2004, 10:58

I knew i could trust you guys to remember the man, a true legend among men out here as well.

Yep, we remember him. The 10th Group Hq building is named Thorne Hall in his memory.

Tuukka

08-10-2004, 11:37

Yes, i read about that, good tribute to a fine soldier.

Sdiver

08-10-2004, 11:58

WHOA !!!!

I just read through the Cast and Crew, from the link that AM posted.....and Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis and Ed Parker worked on this film.

Razor

08-10-2004, 13:30

Originally posted by rudelsg2
Yep, we remember him. The 10th Group Hq building is named Thorne Hall in his memory.

And don't forget about the annual Thorne Award.

Roguish Lawyer

08-11-2004, 15:48

I saw it playing on AMC too, but didn't want to start in the middle since I have not seen it before. Ordered it on Netflix, and plan to see it when it arrives.

The Reaper

08-11-2004, 15:59

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
didn't want to start in the middle since I have not seen it before.

You have got to be kidding!

LIB!

TR

Roguish Lawyer

08-11-2004, 16:02

Originally posted by The Reaper
You have got to be kidding!

LIB!

TR

Nah, I'm just much younger than you are.

GEEZER!

:lifter

LOL

RL

Sdiver

08-11-2004, 16:05

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I saw it playing on AMC too, but didn't want to start in the middle since I have not seen it before. Ordered it on Netflix, and plan to see it when it arrives.

....And you call yourself a MODERATOR on an S.F. board. Jeezzzz:rolleyes:

The Reaper

08-11-2004, 16:20

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Nah, I'm just much younger than you are.

GEEZER!

:lifter

LOL

RL

Couldn't tell it from your picture.. :D

TR

Solid

08-11-2004, 17:07

The Green Berets is a fine, fine movie, one of the few I own.

Solid

Roguish Lawyer

08-11-2004, 19:33

Originally posted by The Reaper
Couldn't tell it from your picture.. :D

TR

LOL

Years in my firm are like dog years. Plenty of gray hair at 35. LOL

Here's a good hijack:

My older boy decided I should grow a mustache this trip. If anyone can photoshop something like what it really looks like, there will be a prize. LMAO

Kyobanim

08-11-2004, 19:40

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
LOL

Years in my firm are like dog years. Plenty of gray hair at 35. LOL

Here's a good hijack:

My older boy decided I should grow a mustache this trip. If anyone can photoshop something like what it really looks like, there will be a prize. LMAO

Is this a challenge? Do we use your picture off the firm's site?

Jack Moroney (RIP)

08-11-2004, 19:53

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
LOL

My older boy decided I should grow a mustache this trip. If anyone can photoshop something like what it really looks like, there will be a prize. LMAO

Bill Harsey

08-11-2004, 20:12

You did it Jack, That's exactly how RL will look. Now the rest of you guys and gals, back to the movie!

Ambush Master

08-11-2004, 20:46

Unless your "Corporate Pic" is way old, you don't have enough time to even start !!! I have had one for ever, but Walt Shumate got me to start the "Handlebar" motif and now I maintain it in his memory !!

I'll wager on something that looks similar to a sidewalk or curb that needs edging !!!:D

Later
Martin

Razor

08-12-2004, 09:52

I'm guessing its has American Indian influence...Apache of hair here, Apache of hair there... :p

The Reaper

08-12-2004, 10:00

Warning, warning, this thread about a righteous topic has been hijacked!

TR

Solid

08-12-2004, 12:20

Oh man. I remember when I hijacked a thread and had NDD and his Take Down team smoke me out of my hole. That was too bad, it was a darn fine hijack.

ROFLMAO nice one Razor!

Solid

Bravo1-3

08-12-2004, 12:30

Has anyone activated the sleeper cells of the TLA (Thread Liberation Army) yet?

Bill Harsey

08-12-2004, 17:32

"You sons a bitches get back to work, I AM the Thread Liberation Police!" John Wayne

Guy

08-13-2004, 08:24

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I saw it playing on AMC too, but didn't want to start in the middle since I have not seen it before. Ordered it on Netflix, and plan to see it when it arrives.

I'm at a lost for words....:::shakes head::: while wondering... WTF?

NousDefionsDoc

08-13-2004, 09:02

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
"You sons a bitches get back to work, I AM the Thread Liberation Police!" John Wayne

LOL

Sdiver

08-14-2004, 01:42

OKay...We've got The Duke's influence for his character.

Anyone know who Aldo Ray's (aka Muldoon) or Jim Hutton's (aka Petersen) got their influences from?

QRQ 30...Col. M...Ambush Master.....any guys like that on any one of your teams? :D

brownapple

08-14-2004, 02:23

Well, hell...you haven't got a team if it hasn't got a scrounger. They come in all MOSs, all ranks... and they just can get what you need.

I'd bet that jgbkk was the scrounger on his ODA...

Roguish Lawyer

08-14-2004, 22:39

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
You did it Jack, That's exactly how RL will look. Now the rest of you guys and gals, back to the movie!

No winners this time. Thanks for playing, folks. :D

Sdiver

08-14-2004, 23:07

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
No winners this time. Thanks for playing, folks. :D

Enough of that....Have You Seen The Movie Yet ??!!??

Roguish Lawyer

08-14-2004, 23:16

Originally posted by Sdiver
Enough of that....Have You Seen The Movie Yet ??!!??

No. :boohoo

brownapple

08-15-2004, 04:18

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
No. :boohoo

Seems to me that RL can't be qualified to be a moderator on these boards if he hasn't even seen The Green Berets.

brewmonkey

08-15-2004, 07:41

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
No. :boohoo

You haven't seen "The Green Beret's?" I thought it was a pre-req to be a member here? :D

Bill Harsey

08-15-2004, 08:49

RL, watch the movie. soon.

Sdiver

08-15-2004, 11:00

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
RL, watch the movie. soon.

RL....what's your Address??

I'll run right over to Fred Meyers and get you a DVD. They've got 'em on sale right now for $8.99.

Roguish Lawyer

08-15-2004, 11:29

Originally posted by Sdiver
RL....what's your Address??

I'll run right over to Fred Meyers and get you a DVD. They've got 'em on sale right now for $8.99.

PM inbound!!!

brewmonkey

08-21-2004, 18:23

Ok, who was Collier in the movie? It is on AMC again right now and i'll be damned if I did not see Richard Pryor listed in the credits. Sure as crap it has him having a bit part with his name being Collier. Was that the driver at the airfield?

Sdiver

08-21-2004, 18:36

Originally posted by brewmonkey
Ok, who was Collier in the movie? Was that the driver at the airfield?

No, the driver's name is Renoloyds.

I know.....we can have RL answer this question. He just recieved his "Training" DVD in the mail today.:D

Kyobanim

08-21-2004, 21:01

It was on again tonight on AMC, RL. How many times do they have to show it before you break down and watch it?

As the Duke would say, Move Out

Roguish Lawyer

08-22-2004, 12:13

Originally posted by Kyobanim
It was on again tonight on AMC, RL. How many times do they have to show it before you break down and watch it?

As the Duke would say, Move Out

LOL. SDiver sent me my very own copy, so I'll watch it soon. Maybe tonight.

Bravo1-3

08-22-2004, 12:16

Good Initiative SDiver!

brewmonkey

08-22-2004, 12:20

Richard Pryors credit is as Richard "Cactus" Pryor.

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 12:20

I have now seen the film.

Jack Moroney (RIP)

08-23-2004, 12:23

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have now seen the film.

Okay.....? Is that like I HAVE NOW seen the film. You know sort of like, YEYUH, I SEEN THE LIGHT.:munchin

Jack Moroney

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 12:44

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have now seen the film.

"That is all."

TR

Bill Harsey

08-23-2004, 13:22

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have now seen the film. Better watch it again.

Sdiver

08-23-2004, 14:18

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Better watch it again.

and again.....
and again.....
and again.....

brewmonkey

08-23-2004, 14:43

Originally posted by The Reaper
"That is all."

TR

I thought he got "The Green Beret's" not "Mr. Roberts?" :D

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 14:52

Originally posted by brewmonkey
I thought he got "The Green Beret's" not "Mr. Roberts?" :D

And M*A*S*H.

Glad someone else got my little joke.

TR

Bravo1-3

08-23-2004, 15:00

Originally posted by The Reaper
And M*A*S*H.

Glad someone else got my little joke.

TR

Every time I hear/see that phrase, I have flashbacks to Mr. Roberts. I used to like that movie until I did a cruise on USS Debuque in September of 89, that movie was on 5 times a day for 2 weeks. Took some of the "magic" out of the movie for me, although I am still oft to quote "It is I Ensign Pulver!" after knocking on the door of someone who is in on the joke.

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 16:06

Originally posted by Bravo1-3
Every time I hear/see that phrase, I have flashbacks to Mr. Roberts. I used to like that movie until I did a cruise on USS Debuque in September of 89, that movie was on 5 times a day for 2 weeks. Took some of the "magic" out of the movie for me, although I am still oft to quote "It is I Ensign Pulver!" after knocking on the door of someone who is in on the joke.

You guys aren't going to make me go watch a NAVY movie now, are you? LOL

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 16:24

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
You guys aren't going to make me go watch a NAVY movie now, are you? LOL

Did you miss M*A*S*H too?

Did you defect during your rumspringer?

TR

Bravo1-3

08-23-2004, 17:36

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
You guys aren't going to make me go watch a NAVY movie now, are you? LOL

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! are you saying that not only (had) you not seen "The Green Berets", but also haven't seen "Mr. Roberts"?

Is that what I'm hearing?

If that is the case, you'd better get to renting it. Henry Fonda and Jack Lemon at their best!

brewmonkey

08-23-2004, 18:00

He has not seen Mr. Roberts? Next thing you're going to tell me is that he has not seen The Caine Mutiny.

Then we have the M*A*S*H issue as well. I dare not mention any others like "The Longest Day" or "A Bridge to Far.":eek:

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 18:19

Originally posted by brewmonkey
He has not seen Mr. Roberts? Next thing you're going to tell me is that he has not seen The Caine Mutiny.

Then we have the M*A*S*H issue as well. I dare not mention any others like "The Longest Day" or "A Bridge to Far.":eek:

Never seen Roberts or Caine. I've seen the others, though. :boohoo

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 19:14

You are nekulturny, RL.

Get some culture and rent some classic flicks, from before Hollywood went to Hell.

TR

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 19:20

Originally posted by The Reaper
You are nekulturny, RL.

Get some culture and rent some classic flicks, from before Hollywood went to Hell.

TR

Not my thing at all. I don't have the patience.

And would you stop making me look up words to know what the heck you're talking about? Rumspringer. :rolleyes: LOL

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 19:37

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Not my thing at all. I don't have the patience.

And would you stop making me look up words to know what the heck you're talking about? Rumspringer. :rolleyes: LOL

No time for pro-US war movies?

Okay, where is the real RL, Doppleganger?

Just thought I would turn the tables on you, legal beagle.

TR

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 19:41

Originally posted by The Reaper
No time for pro-US war movies?

Okay, where is the real RL, Doppleganger?

Just thought I would turn the tables on you, legal beagle.

TR

Yes, I appear to be in the doghouse today. :eek: LOL

brewmonkey

08-23-2004, 19:47

Rumspringer?

For a minute I thought it might be something the Navy does but then I realized there is no "P" in the word.

The Reaper

08-23-2004, 19:56

Originally posted by brewmonkey
Rumspringer?

For a minute I thought it might be something the Navy does but then I realized there is no "P" in the word.

The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Rumspringer is when the Amish youth go out to visit the World and decide if they want to remain Amish, or move to the modern world.

Keeping up so far?

TR

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 19:57

Originally posted by The Reaper
The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Well I did see Kingpin.

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 19:59

Seriously, my favorite movie as a kid was Midway. I saw it literally more than 100 times. Used to really piss people off saying the lines before the characters spoke them.

brewmonkey

08-23-2004, 20:05

Originally posted by The Reaper
The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Rumspringer is when the Amish youth go out to visit the World and decide if they want to remain Amish, or move to the modern world.

Keeping up so far?

TR

Roger. I had to look it up.

brewmonkey

08-23-2004, 20:07

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Seriously, my favorite movie as a kid was Midway. I saw it literally more than 100 times. Used to really piss people off saying the lines before the characters spoke them.

Well at least tell us you have seen Tora! Tora! Tora!

I mean we are getting to the point where I would go for just having seen 1941. :D

King Pin is a freaking riot.

"Sha said handsome, not handless!"

Roguish Lawyer

08-23-2004, 20:11

Originally posted by brewmonkey
Well at least tell us you have seen Tora! Tora! Tora!

I mean we are getting to the point where I would go for just having seen 1941. :D

Yep, seen 'em both.

What is this, the "movies RL has and has not seen" thread?

I haven't seen anyone discuss the movie, really.

What's with Mr. Sulu's ability to deliver all those Montagnards? Wouldn't they really have killed him given the chance?

Sdiver

08-24-2004, 14:23

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have now seen the film.

Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?

Guy

08-24-2004, 18:33

brownapple

08-24-2004, 18:51

Originally posted by Sdiver
Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?

Damn, you are being easy on him...

The Reaper

08-24-2004, 19:03

Originally posted by Guy
Isn't that a reality TV show now...Amish in Los Angeles or something?

I believe that it is.

TR

Bill Harsey

08-24-2004, 19:09

Originally posted by Guy
Isn't that a reality TV show now...Amish in Los Angeles or something? Amish in Oakland would be better.

Sdiver

08-25-2004, 13:32

Originally posted by Greenhat
Damn, you are being easy on him...

Well sir, he has only seen the movie once :rolleyes: , as he watches it more and more and more the questions will become harder.:D

Bravo1-3

08-25-2004, 13:50

So are you going to send him a copy of "Mr. Roberts" now too?

Better yet, are you going to hook a brother up with a copy of "The Green Berets"? We don't get AMC that I'm aware of, and I keep looking.

Sdiver

08-25-2004, 14:01

Originally posted by Bravo1-3
So are you going to send him a copy of "Mr. Roberts" now too?

Better yet, are you going to hook a brother up with a copy of "The Green Berets"? We don't get AMC that I'm aware of, and I keep looking.

I figured I'd save the "Mr. Roberts" for someone else. Besides...he still has to watch "The Green Berets" a few dozen more times.;)

You don't have Fred Meyers down in your AO? If not.....I might be able to swing something for ya.....sheezzzz:D

Roguish Lawyer

08-25-2004, 14:08

BTW, S --

That disc you bought me was DEFECTIVE! The second side would not play. Fortunately, I had the Netflix copy I could watch. Problem solved. :D

Sdiver

08-25-2004, 14:11

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
BTW, S --

That disc you bought me was DEFECTIVE! The second side would not play. Fortunately, I had the Netflix copy I could watch. Problem solved. :D

WHAT !!!!:eek:

Send it back...I'll swap it out.

Roguish Lawyer

08-25-2004, 14:17

Originally posted by Sdiver
WHAT !!!!:eek:

Send it back...I'll swap it out.

I said problem solved. No further questions on this topic, please. :D :cool: :lifter

Sdiver

08-26-2004, 01:43

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I said problem solved. No further questions on this topic, please. :D

Very Well....But you still need to answer the 5 questions that I've already posted.

Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....:munchin

12B4S

12-25-2004, 04:57

K, old thread... been trying to catch up for a month or so now. Read through this one and Y'all are dragging stuff out of my ancient mind. Yeah in the flick Mr Wayne didn't hook up. There was, besides that, a few other things in the movie........ one was this; the Team was returning from thier last mission, in the movie (believe it was a snatch OP) Peter'san bought it..... anyway as the movie went, they were returning just about sunset....... and ...... well..... that was the EAST coast of VN..... South China Sea......... ;) Great flick...... but ohhhhhhh hollywood .... and nope ... I'm not cappin' that place,city,town.....

Doc

12-25-2004, 12:51

A long time ago I read the book "Shooting Star" which was about John Wayne. Part of the book dealt with the making of the movie "The Green Berets".

I will try and summarize what I remember about my reading. Any error is due to the mind and not the heart.

John Wayne was a conservative. He didn't fit in well in Hollywood back in the 1960's. He visited Vietnam and decided to make a movie based on what was going on over there and to more importantly, support the troops. In the interim either before or after he made "The Green Berets", he made a documentary with several SF Vietnam Veterans in it describing their side of what was occuring overseas along with John Wayne's colorful vocabulary placed in for good measure. If anyone has a copy of it, please PM me. I saw it one time years ago and was not able to tape it.

Back to my summation of the book. John Wayne was DX with lung cancer before he made the movie and drew the sympathy of even his most hardened critics in the liberal groups. He could have came into the fold and all would have been forgiven, but that wasn't John Wayne. He decided to say screw them and their sympathy by making the movie. Some things were more important than himself. He never looked back.

He was only working on one lung due to cancer when he made the movie. He chewed tobacco and worked like a man possessed according to fellow actors.

John Wayne said that in the 1940's the government and hollywood went out of their way to promote the war effort by helping movie producers with actual soldiers playing parts and technical assistance. Not this time around. This was an unpopular war they said to which he replied, "which war isn't?" This lack of support may help viewers understand the technical quality of the film. Critic's will see things their way, those that understand what John Wayne was trying to do and support his efforts will see it in another light.

The Colonel at the Airborne School was an actual Army Officer. My Uncle worked for him long ago.

John Wayne IMHO represented America very well. I sadly think that no one can replace him.

John Wayne and Martha Rae (sp?) were the only two people fully authorized to wear the Green Beret that did not complete the course. They are as much a Special Forces Soldier as anyone that received the order to "Don Berets" in our book.

Thanks John and Martha for sticking by us when it wasn't Politically Correct to do so. I'll see you on the other side.

Sorry for the rant, stepping off the soap box.

Doc

brownapple

12-25-2004, 22:21

I like your soap box, Doc. Well said.

Not only was the Colonel a real Colonel, those were real Airborne Candidates who ran by and got to get the thrill of their life responding to John Wayne with "All the Way". My first Team Sergeant was one of those in that shuffle.

That scene always struck me as amusing, since you go from the Gabriel demonstration to the little confrontation with Specialist Peterson in the 5th Group area (and not in the 7th Group area), all of which would clearly place it at FT Bragg to the Airborne candidates, clearly at FT Benning.

I understand someone pointed this out to John Wayne. He didn't care. It gave him an opportunity to put real soldiers on screen and he wanted to do that.

Sdiver

07-24-2006, 20:49

Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?

Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....:munchin

Okay R.L.

It's been almost TWO years and you still haven't answered these questions.

and......

How many times have you seen the movie??? :munchin

rubberneck

07-24-2006, 20:54

As an interesting bit of trivia Aldo Ray (DaRe), who played Sgt Muldoon, was a UDT vet that served in WWII and saw action in Okinawa.

x SF med

07-25-2006, 06:42

Hey RL-
Have you at least seen "the Bridge at Toko-Ri" - and when are you going to answer? You never even asked for discovery time or a continuance.

And TR - "Horror show" on the nekulturny ref - I don't think it the other guys caught it - haven't seen "A Clockwork Orange" in a looooong time.

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 07:11

I am too busy to answer these questions now, but one of these days I will watch it again and see if I can answer the questions.

I did attempt to watch The Frogmen the other day. Couldn't get into it and turned it off. :rolleyes:

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 07:11

And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

Goggles Pizano

07-25-2006, 07:27

Damn RL, two years and still no answers? Shame on you lad! ;)

Sdiver

07-25-2006, 08:32

And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

...SIGH....:rolleyes:

Well Doc,
Looks as if you're going to have to put your "Cuba" OP on hold. I see a bigger cause, that needs doing.

The "Education of R.L."......

So far, the list of "Educational" tapes that he needs to see, is.....

Mr. Roberts
The Green Berets
The Frogmen
The Bridge at Toko-Ri
The Green Berets

and I'm going to venture to guess....

Battleground
The Bridge Over the River Kwai
The Guadalcanal Diaries
Sgt. York
To Hell and Back

Have a seat R.L. .....there's a Nice Glass of Moo Juice, on the other end for you.:D :munchin

x SF med

07-25-2006, 09:04

And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

The Horror, the Horror!!!

The Guns of Navarrone?
Anzio?
the Flying Leathernecks?

I can't even think of all the great WWII movies out there.

Tubbs

07-25-2006, 10:07

Would I be banned from the site if I admitted that I have never watched "The Green Berets"?

x SF med

07-25-2006, 10:30

We need an entrance exam to get on the site!!! :eek: Just basic stuff like:

minimal grammar, spelling and punctuation
5 questions on the movie the Green Berets
5 questions on some key figures from SF history - like COL Aaron Bank, COL Nick Rowe, COL Bob Howard, etc.
A few SA questions

Nothing tough, but jeez, joining a Special Forces site without having a clue about the movie the Green Berets.....:confused:

Just to weed out the oxygen thieves.

Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

The Reaper

07-25-2006, 10:38

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 10:48

We need an entrance exam to get on the site!!! :eek: Just basic stuff like:

minimal grammar, spelling and punctuation
5 questions on the movie the Green Berets
5 questions on some key figures from SF history - like COL Aaron Bank, COL Nick Nowe, COL Bob Howard, etc.
A few SA questions

Nothing tough, but jeez, joining a Special Forces site without having a clue about the movie the Green Berets.....:confused:

Just to weed out the oxygen thieves.

Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

I guess QPs don't have to be able to spell COL Rowe's name . . . :rolleyes: :p

x SF med

07-25-2006, 10:50

Who is this COL Nick Nowe that you refer to?

TR

Failed one part of the spelling test - actually the typing test - edited. How the hell I got to "N" when it should have been an "R" I will never figure out, kind of like Ranger Land Nav - "Dammit, I know I'm in the right place, the map is wrong!!"

Penace through PT will be performed after work.

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 10:51

Failed one part of the spelling test - actually the typing test - edited. How the hell I got to "N" when it should have been an "R" I will never figure out, kind of like Ranger Land Nav - "Dammit, I know I'm in the right place, the map is wrong!!"

Pennace through PT will be performed after work.

Strike two.

x SF med

07-25-2006, 10:55

Strike two.

Bad day for my fat fingers - I double tapped the "n" in penance.

RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

The Reaper

07-25-2006, 11:09

Strike two.

No charge for the top cover and diversionary effort, Counselor.

All I ask is that you watch the movie.:D

TR

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 11:09

Bad day for my fat fingers - I double tapped the "n" in penance.

RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

Good thing I'm not a Delta, because then I might ask you whether you really were a Bravo . . . :eek: ;)

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 11:10

No charge for the top cover and diversionary effort, Counselor.

All I ask is that you watch the movie.:D

TR

Your wish is my command.

bluebb

07-25-2006, 11:12

I think we should add "Go tell the Spartans" to the list of required movies.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077617/fullcredits

Blue

bluebb

07-25-2006, 11:30

Should have added this one also, "The odd angry shot", an aussie movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079652/

Blue

x SF med

07-25-2006, 11:46

Good thing I'm not a Delta, because then I might ask you whether you really were a Bravo . . . :eek: ;)

RL-
Right on both counts - I was both a Bravo and a Delta, therefore your barbed retorts cannot hurt me - bodies, bullet launchers - just machines, but humans are much messier than metal.;)

Sdiver

07-25-2006, 11:47

RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

Ummmm Doc,
Don't be thinkin' that you can get away that fast. No poppin' smoke here.

That was just the 1st of several tests about the movie The Green Berets that I've compiled. I'm going for stumping the QP's.:lifter

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 11:53

RL-
Right on both counts - I was both a Bravo and a Delta, therefore your barbed retorts cannot hurt me - bodies, bullet launchers - just machines, but humans are much messier than metal.;)

You'd think I would have checked your profile before trying that one . . . :o

Pete

07-25-2006, 12:46

You'd think I would have checked your profile before trying that one . . . :o

Now RL;

I think somewhere Waaaay back in this tread you said you never saw "The Caine Mutiny"? Tell me that was not so, or at least that you have seen it since.

That movie should be required viewing in law school. When the lawyer walks into the ballroom and throws the drink - Whoa, that speach he gives is great.

Pete

Jack Moroney (RIP)

07-25-2006, 13:05

Who played the NVA general who was sky hooked?

Sdiver

07-25-2006, 13:11

Who played the NVA general who was sky hooked?

William Olds....

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646201/

Sdiver

07-25-2006, 13:18

Now RL;

I think somewhere Waaaay back in this tread you said you never saw "The Caine Mutiny"? Tell me that was not so, or at least that you have seen it since.

That movie should be required viewing in law school. When the lawyer walks into the ballroom and throws the drink - Whoa, that speach he gives is great.

Pete

Yes Sir...

Jose' Ferrer, at his best IMHO.

Jack Moroney (RIP)

07-25-2006, 13:29

William Olds....

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646201/

Yep but that was his English Name. His Hawaiian name was something like Kaeola Sproule Olds. He is a friend of mine and we served together as majors in the 1/23rd Infantry, 2nd Infantry Division, Korea, in 78-79.

Mike

07-25-2006, 13:31

The movie came out while I was in 6th grp on orders for RVN-a bunch of us went up to Charlotte to see it and paid a lot of attention.
The Col was Col Welch, CO of airborne school at the time. I got my wings pinned on by him.

Rumor was that the burning crewman died.

We showed it outdoors at A 341-the Viets and CIDG laughed at the gibberish the fake VNs were speaking.

The LLDB Dai-Uy immediately built a tower. Ours was much better than the movie version.

The A camp sequence was pretty good-everything else very hollywood.

They would have been strung out for a hundred miles on that jump the way they meandered out of the plane.

The jeep driver was just a trainee they grabbed and put there for effect-believe he had no wings,

John Wayne may have been authorized a beret, but Maggie spent a lot of time putting in time with the troops. Her "teamhouse" was open to any SF vets.

A lot of good men from hollywood served honorably in WW2-John Wayne ducked it. No cigar in my book.

"Mr Roberts" and "The Caine Mutiny" were terrific movies.

Tubbs

07-25-2006, 14:46

Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

Solid Copy. I have it on the way from Netflix.
I have seen "The Sands of Iwo Jima" at least a dozen times, can that count towards my redeemability? After all I was a Jarhead.

x SF med

07-25-2006, 14:56

Roguish Lawyer

07-25-2006, 18:06

I will have to confer with counsel, AL, not RL

Cheap bastard. :p

x SF med

07-25-2006, 20:58

Cheap bastard. :p

Yessiree, Bob! I learned to live on enlisted and NCO pay prior to getting edumacated and having fancy letters after my name - then I got divorced, and she got half of everything - but no alimony. Better cheap than debt ridden. Plus AL has seen the GB movie.:munchin :rolleyes:

07-25-2006, 21:19

You guys ain't gonna believe this. I have a group, black and white photo of JW and the A-Team they used for the walk-on. Did you know they built the A-Camp at Benning right off the DZ they used for Jump School.....what the heck was the name of that DZ? Damn I'm gettin' old! Regardless what you might think of the Duke he and his family were great supporters of Group. But I've got to agree Maggie was the best. "Q".

Tubbs

07-25-2006, 21:20

I will have to confer with counsel, AL, not RL - and get back to you. Since you were a Marine, we may have to cut you some slack, realizing that you are already 'challenged'.... ;) :D Ultimate proof being that you chose to live in West Texas - or is it West, Texas by Waco....

WHOA!!!

Them's fightin' words. I would never choose to live in West Texas(although originally being from Boston I am NOT a Kennedy supporter). My options were to...
a. live with my wife in West Texas for 6 months to a year or
b. find a new wife

But yeah, I can't argue with the rest of it. At least it was all "good training":lifter .

The Reaper

07-25-2006, 21:21

x SF med

07-25-2006, 21:23

x SF med

07-25-2006, 21:27

WHOA!!!

Them's fightin' words. I would never choose to live in West Texas(although originally being from Boston I am NOT a Kennedy supporter). My options were to...
a. live with my wife in West Texas for 6 months to a year or
b. find a new wife

But yeah, I can't argue with the rest of it. At least it was all "good training":lifter .

fort Woth was bad enough for me - but I do have a cousin in The land that oil has sunk, literally, the area has dropped by a foot since they started pumping - Odessa-Permian area.

NousDefionsDoc

07-25-2006, 21:30

If Doc Farr ever posts again, I believe he has an interesting story regarding airborne ops and The Duke's A-Camp.

Tubbs

07-25-2006, 21:32

fort Woth was bad enough for me - but I do have a cousin in The land that oil has sunk, literally, the area has dropped by a foot since they started pumping - Odessa-Permian area.

Trust me, as soon as I get out of this dump I am never looking back. After this experience I told my wife it was me or the AF. If I get my job before she re-ups then we're out. If not...well, I have a nice apron and I can probobly get some pointers from the lovely ladies on the site.

HOLLiS

07-25-2006, 21:55

Trust me, as soon as I get out of this dump I am never looking back. After this experience I told my wife it was me or the AF. If I get my job before she re-ups then we're out. If not...well, I have a nice apron and I can probobly get some pointers from the lovely ladies on the site.

Being a house hubby is all that not bad, it has advantages. Set yourself up a small business, helps prevent massive boredom. Generally the wife has the biggest problems with it. I have found a good dinner calms the savage beast.

Tubbs

07-25-2006, 22:29

Being a house hubby is all that not bad, it has advantages. Set yourself up a small business, helps prevent massive boredom. Generally the wife has the biggest problems with it. I have found a good dinner calms the savage beast.

Well, I do the cooking anyways, so being a house husband was actually her idea. I tried the small business thing but apperently thugery is not a legitimate business. :confused:
Any suggestions?

12B4S

07-25-2006, 22:31

Yeah Q. Maggie was the BEST!!!!! I was privileged for two nights a long time ago to have sat, BS'd and drank with her back at Flint. The second night, it somehow turned out at the end of the night in the NCO club it was just her and I. That woman could drinkkkkkkkk. My estimate was easily a fifth of vodka. So being it was just her and I and really late/early. I drove her back to her quarters in my '61 VW. This was in 1970... maybe early '71. We don't often get to be around people like that. Not the celebrity...... the person. Incredible!!!!!!!

While she was there, we got a sheet or something like it and she signed it as we all did. She had a special room in her home for SF stuff. As I understand it, that room was recreated at the SF museum at Bragg. I realize she had collected a ton throughout her years with SF. Just wondering if any of you still at Bragg have seen the display and if that 'sheet' is there.

BTW. When I was in. JW had the Team House. Yes any guy that was SF or past SF could go and stay there.

x SF med

07-26-2006, 06:34

If Doc Farr ever posts again, I believe he has an interesting story regarding airborne ops and The Duke's A-Camp.

Doc Farr was possibly the best instructor I ever had in SF, tough but fair, plus Doc Rocky used to be a 91B(S) NCO, so he knew what we really needed on a team.

NDD - I've heard the story, years ago at Ft Sam, prior to one of our 'keep the pay' jumps in the briar fields of the NG tng area outside San Antonio, can't remember details, all I remember is we were all laughing so hard that it was difficult to get into our harnesses.

Roguish Lawyer

07-26-2006, 11:11

Doc Farr was possibly the best instructor I ever had in SF, tough but fair, plus Doc Rocky used to be a 91B(S) NCO, so he knew what we really needed on a team.

NDD - I've heard the story, years ago at Ft Sam, prior to one of our 'keep the pay' jumps in the briar fields of the NG tng area outside San Antonio, can't remember details, all I remember is we were all laughing so hard that it was difficult to get into our harnesses.

So who is going to get Doc Farr to come in here and tell the story? :munchin

CPTAUSRET

07-26-2006, 11:58

x SF med

07-26-2006, 14:08

So who is going to get Doc Farr to come in here and tell the story? :munchin

Somebody has got to track down COL Rocky Farr (Jeez, he used to just be a CPT when he taught us) and get the man to post a little. NDD, TS, TR - any contact with DOC Farr?

NousDefionsDoc

08-07-2006, 17:22

x SF med

08-08-2006, 06:38

Camp Bullis

NDD- I meant remembering the details of (then CPT) Dr. Farr's story... I'm getting old and sometimes have CRS...

Roguish Lawyer

08-26-2007, 14:20

My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

82ndtrooper

08-26-2007, 14:36

My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

Yep, I caught it about 2:30 and following that was "The Frogmen" another decent black and white but much earlier than "The Green Berets"

BTW RL: Your son is still in our daily prayers and on our church prayer list. I might have already told you that . Hope all is well.

Roguish Lawyer

08-26-2007, 14:55

BTW RL: Your son is still in our daily prayers and on our church prayer list. I might have already told you that . Hope all is well.

Thanks very much, 82T. Much appreciated.

Sdiver

08-27-2007, 09:18

My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

How about you? Have YOU been watching it over and over and over...???

You still haven't answered those questions, I posted oh sooooo long ago, in this thread. :)

SFS0AVN

08-27-2007, 09:44

In addition, I was a Pfc when I graduated in Training Group. We didn't get any promotions in Training Group higher than Pfc E-3. I think the medics may have received one stripe upon promotion. I didn't make SP4 until I had been in the 10th SFG for several months.

It was entirely possible and even probable that a Pfc would be the CO's driver. If he did well a stripe usually resulted.

Things were different. We had just returned from a Joint FCX with the British SAS. When we returned, LYT Faistenheimer was in our team room and congratulating me on a job well done. The team sergeant, MSG Valenzuela told the Col: "If you think he is that good, don't shake his hand, promote him." Within the week I was promoted to SSG.

I graduated SF Tng Gp Med Class 63-7 and several in my class made SP4 upon completion of Branch. I think Medics were the only ones who could get promotions, as students, in Tng Gp because of the length of training.

Sigaba

03-26-2009, 14:50

That is, if you had a massive budget ($150 m - $200 m).

Questions to consider.

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Which studio would you have back you?

How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?

Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?

Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)

To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)

Where would you premier the film?

ZonieDiver

03-26-2009, 15:05

Class starts soon, so no time for a lengthy reply:

BUT, I'd have "Ham Chunk" leave RVN as a "boat person," emigrate to the USA, become a citizen with SF'ers (FOG's - gotta get FOG's in the movie) from the original as sponsors, enlist in US Army, become SF and lead a team in A-Stan! Just a thought...

Slantwire

03-26-2009, 15:10

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Not going to mess with the original. Maybe a fictional plot in the early days of 10th Group in eastern Europe. With the practical constraint of the current audience's limited history, I'd probably go with Afghanistan.

Edited to add: ZonieDiver is right. One way or another, it must have FOGs.

Which studio would you have back you?

Don't know enough about the industry to answer this one.

How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?

I'd be doing it with the same intention as Wayne: as tribute to the men of the regiment. Actors' attitudes towards the project would have to match the intent. Therefore, Gary Sinise and Bruce Willis would be candidates. Sean Penn would be right out. Unless I can figure a way to write him in as a villain.

Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?

Again, I don't know the industry enough to make these picks without research. I'd definitely have some tabbed personnel for technical advisors.

Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)

I'd ask for it, and see what strings would be attached. Wayne used it for his, and Black Hawk Down would have been odd if they had been limited to civilian Hueys. With my intent as stated above, hopefully the DoD would work with me.

To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)

If they're going to back me, then I'll use that to do it right. Black Hawk Down and Taking Chance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they both seem to be doing okay.

Where would you premier the film?

Easiest question yet. Takoma WA, Fayetteville NC, Clarksville TN, and Colorado Springs. If the suits insist on LA or NYC as well, that's fine, but those towns are required.

JJ_BPK

03-26-2009, 15:24

That is, if you had a massive budget ($150 m - $200 m).

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Where would you premier the film?

We had our movie,, there is no way you could replicate Duke & cast..

If "The Green Berets" were re-made, it should be current players and their story..

World Premier: Gabriel Demonstration Area,, for the locals only...

Dozer523

03-26-2009, 16:11

Gonzaga University 1974-75 ROTC had an MS1 Instructor; a Major - FA (Pre-Branch) who was the Commander on the Demonstration Team (He spoke Norwegian) at the begining of the movie. There was another Major at GU at the same time who was also in the movie but, he was Hawaiian. His comment was "I got fougassed in the wire." Anyone know these two great soldiers or where they are?

PS GU's gonna clobber UNC . . . This is the year Baby!!:D

greenberetTFS

03-26-2009, 20:20

We had our movie,, there is no way you could replicate Duke & cast..

If "The Green Berets" were re-made, it should be current players and their story..

World Premier: Gabriel Demonstration Area,, for the locals only...

JJ is right there is NO way they could redue it. The Duke is the Duke and thats that......................;)

GB TFS :munchin

Dozer523

03-26-2009, 20:35

greenberetTFS

03-26-2009, 20:49

You can skip the credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IwNwjEHYN8

Dozer,When you say skip the credits, I hope you don't mean at the very begining...Hell,That's the best part.......;):cool::D

GB TFS :munchin

Dozer523

03-27-2009, 17:27

Dozer,When you say skip the credits, I hope you don't mean at the very begining...Hell,That's the best part.......;)GB TFS You are right! Didn't have the sound on (So I didn't have to stand!:p)
anyone recognize that young, hard charging Warrior? It was from him that I first heard the phrase "Get your thumb out of your ass and. . . " It was the only time it was directed at me. . . Hey I was 19, I was the APL, the snow was knee deep, the PL had stopped AGAIN and I should have been running to the front of the column. It was the Fri, Sat, Sun "Long Range Patrol". :rolleyes:

JJ_BPK

03-27-2009, 18:24

Reading thru the old posts,, before RL saw the movie...

Richard Pryors credit is as Richard "Cactus" Pryor.

You got your priors mixed up..

Richard Pryor, the comedian was not

Richard "Cactus" Pryor, Texan radio dj & good buddy of the Duke was..

The Green Berets
Sgt. Muldoon (Aldo Ray) [06:26 Side1] :
The master sergeant fond of blowing things up, Aldo Ray was adept at playing either the ultimate tough guy (Men in War) or a comedienne (We're No Angels).

Sgt. Provo (Luke Askew) [11:50 Side1] :
The gung-ho sergeant who requests permission to join John Wayne's unit. A year later he did a complete character flip-flop when he played the hippie who hitches a ride to a commune on Peter Fonda's motorcycle in the CED title Easy Rider.

Sgt. Peterson (Jim Hutton) [13:50 Side1]:
He's the "supply" sergeant forcibly recruited into John Wayne's unit. Probably best remembered for his Ellery Queen TV series, and he's the father of Timothy Hutton, who appeared in five CED titles.

Col. Morgan (Bruce Cabot) [18:21 Side1] :
The colonel who John Wayne is replacing in Vietnam. Many years earlier he had played Fay Wray's love interest in the original King Kong.

Sgt. Hobson (Richard "Cactus" Pryor) [33:08 Side1] :
The sergeant with Peterson when the orphan Hamchunk jokingly trips him. Despite what a number of web sites state, this is not Richard Pryor the actor/comedienne, but Richard "Cactus" Pryor, a personal buddy of John Wayne, and author of the book Playback. He is also sometimes mis-identified in the movie Hellfighters which was the next John Wayne movie after "The Green Berets."

Capt. Nim (George Takei) [38:37 Side1] :
The South Vietnamese Army leader at the outpost, easily recognizable as Lt. Sulu from Star Trek. This movie was made right in the middle of the original run of the TV series.

Sgt. Kowalski (Mike Henry) [18:23 Side2] :
A member of Col. Kirby's inner circle and the lead scout on the extraction mission. This former football star also played a "James Bond" style Tarzan in three movies around the time "The Green Berets" was made. Ten years later he almost escapes recognition as Jackie Gleason's dim-witted son Junior in the "Smokey and the Bandit" series.

Lt. Jamison (Patrick Wayne) [06:06 Side2] :
The lead Navy SeaBee whose detachment arrives to shore up the outpost. He is the real-life son of John Wayne and also played lead in the CED titles The Bears and I and Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. One of John Wayne's other sons Michael Wayne was producer of "The Green Berets."

I watch the movie for the 1st time while in Basic at Ft Jackson, SC, maybe April 1968. I had just turned 20 Yrs old,, Changed my life...

Delta62

03-28-2009, 03:30

I'm pretty sure one tried that technique here...ONCE!

The wife and I watched it last night also.

Guy,

I believe we tried too (with the 10th Group guys) at Thunderbolt Range in Saudi Arabia right before going into Kuwait. We were on the top edge of an escarpment and jacked a 60mm to max elevation with a charge one or zero (I can't remember exactly)... everything was going well it until the round started drifting back at apex due to winds at altitude.... well I didn't think anyone could move as fast as they did, especially Cosmo. Thank God for the escarpment because the round landed at the base which absorbed the shrapnel.... I can't remember what concept about "danger close" we were thinking about resolving with that experiment..... There's another about bunker clearing that can wait....

Steve

ZonieDiver

03-28-2009, 12:10

You can skip the credits. (but you shouldn't, thanks TFS for reminding me what the best part of the movie REALLY is.)
But my friend is first seen about 2.05. All candidates should stand during the credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IwNwjEHYN8

When we checked into SFTG from Airborne in July '70, D Company's 1SG, "Rocky" Lane <sp>, explained to us that every morning at first formation, we'd be singing the first verse of "The Ballad of the Green Berets"! IIRC (which gets hazier daily), we did it at first formation at Camp Mackall - at least for the first two weeks - before our morning run-rucksack run-or game of "canteen football". Are such things (the singing - not the "canteen football" - still done????

They also showed the movie at the base theatre at Ft. Gulick around July '71. We (A Company) were marched down to see it. SF marching to a movie. IF I hadn't been in "formation," I'd have wanted to take pictures. :D

Utah Bob

03-28-2009, 15:06

Great thread. I've just finished all 12 pages. I was in Benning at OCS when they filmed the movie. I remember our Air Mobile Ops exercise was postponed because Duke had all the Hueys tied up. If I recall they used a lot of OCs from another company as VC in the camp assault.
Later, when I was with the 10th in 68 at Flint, they had a premier before the movie hit the civilian theaters. Very cool.
The bier flowed like water that night.:D

f50lrrp

03-28-2009, 16:26

I had the opportunity to meet JW when he was in VN doing research for the movie in 1967. Later, I was on R&R in Sydney, walking to my hotel in my TWs with my green beret on when I passed a movie marque that said The Grreen Berets are Coming". A very cute Aussie Shiela in a minnie skirt said, "I jolly well guess the GVreen Berets are here.

In 1968, the movie premiered at Long Hai (B-36s Base Camp) and we watched it outside shown against a bed sheet. All of our Nungs and Cambodes loved it and the SF made all kinds of snide comments. Ammongst these were yhe scene where JW says "strengthen the North Wall" and the CIDG starts pulling men away from their positions, Somebody said "Ther goes your North Wall"!

The Scene at the end of the movie where Ham Chuk meets the helicopters and JW walks him down the beach as the sun sets was also funny. VN doesn't have a West Coast.