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LarryW
07-16-2010, 19:31
Hezbollah? Well, it wouldn't be a surprise. Where next?


(CNN) -- A car bomb killed at least four people in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, authorities said.

It was the first time a car bomb has been used to attack federal police, said the city's mayor, Jose Reyes Ferriz.

The incident happened about 8 p.m. Thursday in the city's most violent zone.

Juarez municipal police spokesman Jacinto Seguro said Friday that federal police were responding to a call that a police officer had been killed.

"When they went to check the car, there was a dead body in there, dressed up like a police officer, but it wasn't one of ours," Seguro said. "They put him in a civilian car but dressed him up in a municipal police uniform. That's when the bomb went off. It's like an act of terrorism."

Two police officers, a paramedic and a civilian were killed, federal police spokesman Ramon Salinas said.

Six people, including a local news cameraman, were injured in the blast, authorities said. Four people -- three paramedics and a civilian -- were still being treated for injuries, police said. It was unclear how severe the injuries are.

Canal 5 video footage from moments after the blast captures seconds of confusion, followed by fires and debris scattered across the street. At one point, the cameraman shooting the video reaches for an injured civilian, and a police officer says, "Grab onto my arm. Grab onto my arm."

Although Mexican authorities say the attack was the result of a car bomb, a counterterrorism expert said there is "some confusion" about exactly what caused the car to explode.

"For this to be an improvised grenade attack, in some capacity, it doesn't surprise me," said Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, a privately owned global Intelligence service.

But if this particular car bomb was manufactured to the level of sophistication similar to those used by terrorist groups like Hezbollah, then this is a significant event, Burton said.

"The devil is in the details," he added.

Juan Marulanda, a security analyst based in Bogota, Colombia, called Friday's bombing a "turning point" in Mexico's drug war and found it remniscent of Colombia's own battle with cartels and car bombs in the 1990s.

"Because if they decide to start using car bombs one against the other ... then the whole society, bystanders, innocent people could be affected," he told CNN.

He said that while Friday's car bombing did not appear very sophisticated, he noted that Mexican drug cartels are often advised by former members of Colombian cartels. He said the Colombian cartels are influenced by FARC, the guerrilla group which has waged war against the Colombian government for decades and "has a lot of experience with explosives."

"We could expect more sophistication day after day if they decided to go on with these car bombs," he said.

According to Seguro, the Juarez cartel claimed the deadly incident in a graffiti message found in downtown Juarez.

In what appears to be black spray paint, the violent drug cartel wrote, "what happened on September avenue will keep happening to all the authorities who keep supporting El Chapo. Sincerely - the Juarez cartel."

The threatening message concluded: "We still have car bombs."

"This is significant because usually it's La Linea, the Juarez cartel's operatives, that sign the messages," Reyes said. "It's as if to say, 'Now, it's the big guys in charge, not the operatives.'"

Salinas said the blast in the Mexican border city took place as authorities were responding to "some sort of emergency."

Earlier in the day, police announced the arrest of Jesus Armando Acosta Guerrero, believed to be a leader in the Juarez cartel -- one of two drug trafficking organizations operating in the area.

There had been relative calm in the city since elections were held there July 4.

But Thursday's explosion and an attack Sunday against Mexican federal police mark the third and fourth major incidents in recent weeks.

On June 29, a shooting between suspected drug traffickers and Mexican federal police left one officer dead. The shooting was seen as a watershed moment in the ongoing border drug war: Several bullets from that gunfight strayed across the border into Texas, hitting El Paso City Hall. There were no injuries reported on the U.S. side.

On April 24, six federal police officers were killed in a daylight shooting in Juarez. Hours later, a painted message found in the city, allegedly from members of La Linea, claimed responsibility for the attack. La Linea is an extension of the Juarez cartel, made up in part of former Juarez police officers, according to authorities.

Assaults against federal police have increased since they took full control of security in the city from the Mexican military on April 9.

"There have been at least a dozen, maybe 15, attacks against the federal police since we took over" security, Salinas said.

The Juarez cartel and the Sinaloa cartel have been in a bloody turf war since 2008. More than 5,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Juarez during the turf war, according to local authorities.

mojaveman
07-16-2010, 20:12
Let's hope these cartel members don't get too ambitious and bring any of their new techniques to our side of the border.

LarryW
07-17-2010, 05:41
The cartel goons are being taught by someone. They probably aren't learning these new tricks off the internet.

IMO, it'll take a lot more than a Black-Jack Persing-type raid into No. Mexico to root out the devils, too. It's going to take political and military resolve, and that doesn't exist when it comes to opposing anything coming out of Mexico. That kind of resolve hasn't existed in years.

Green Light
07-17-2010, 08:24
Let's hope these cartel members don't get too ambitious and bring any of their new techniques to our side of the border.

Hope is all that BHO ran on. Hope is not a plan.

Utah Bob
07-17-2010, 21:20
The cartel goons are being taught by someone. They probably aren't learning these new tricks off the internet.

IMO, it'll take a lot more than a Black-Jack Persing-type raid into No. Mexico to root out the devils, too. It's going to take political and military resolve, and that doesn't exist when it comes to opposing anything coming out of Mexico. That kind of resolve hasn't existed in years.

Well, Ole Black Jack's raid didn't show much of a result.
Good training for the troops though.

greenberetTFS
07-18-2010, 02:45
When will IED's begin to appear next? Especially in our country,it doesn't seem like their that far from possibly using them here................:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Green Light
07-18-2010, 05:15
Well, Ole Black Jack's raid didn't show much of a result.
Good training for the troops though.

IIRC, he thought that it would be regarded as a failure in history.

Utah Bob
07-18-2010, 08:00
When will IED's begin to appear next? Especially in our country,it doesn't seem like their that far from possibly using them here................:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

CombatMuffin
07-20-2010, 21:54
I just saw an update on the TV here in Mexico, for anyone who is interested, it was broadcast as one of the headlines in Televisa, one of the major national TV stations.

Apparently the car bomb was rigged with over 10kg of explosives, and they've identified the identity of the body used to bait the police officers as a man who disappeared(most likely kidnapped) the exact same day of the bombing. According to the media, the FBI is also participating(I believe as of the 18th-19th of this month) in the investigation to track down the origins of the bomb.

IMHO, this is a stupid, stupid move by the cartels. The very fact that they were trying to bait police officers, makes this move all the closer to terrorism. As a Mexican, the last thing I personally want is intervention on the part of the U.S. military (I'd love for the situation to be resolved by our own means), but the reality is that if this keeps going, it is the inevitable consequence.

The headline also emphasized that a large reinforcement was sent to Juarez to sweep for weaponry(and I assume explosive components). It was sad looking at the TV because my mom recognized some of the streets there(her family is from Cd. Juarez and El Paso)....

Richard
07-20-2010, 22:09
When will IED's begin to appear next? Especially in our country,...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Perhaps a better question might be - when wll it stop? :confused:

Richard :munchin

BoyScout
07-20-2010, 22:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Perhaps a better question might be - when wll it stop? :confused:

Richard :munchin

Hopefully after that failed attempt in New York.