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T-Rock
06-18-2010, 15:24
Looks like President Obama and his deputy counsel and OIC appointee, Rashad Hussain, may have a whole lot more in common than most originally thought…and that interview with George Stephanopoulos, well…maybe it wasn’t really a slip of the tongue :munchin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

Report: Obama said 'I Am a Muslim'

By Pamela Gellar - June16, 2010




"The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim."

That was the claim of Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit, as reported in the May 2010 issue of Israel Today. According to journalist Avi Lipkin, Gheit appeared on Nile TV's "Round Table Show" in January, on which he said that "he had had a one-on-one meeting with Obama who swore to him that he was a Moslem, the son of a Moslem father and step-son of Moslem step-father, that his half-brothers in Kenya were Moslems, and that he was loyal to the Moslem agenda."

Obama allegedly said this in the context of reassuring Gheit that he would soon deal with Israel:

He asked that the Moslem world show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American problems (Healthcare) [sic], that he would show the Moslem world what he would do with Israel.

Could this be true? Even if Gheit's claim isn't true, or was misreported, every country in the free world must be cognizant of the catastrophic sea change that has taken place in the leadership of the free world -- as witnessed by events over the past year. Barack Obama took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and yet whether he is a Muslim or not, he has undeniably gone around the world promoting Islam and Sharia (Islamic law).

And now, if what Gheit says is true, we know why.

The alleged exchange between Obama and Gheit would almost certainly have happened in early January 2010, when Gheit was in Washington, D.C. regarding "Mideast peace talks."
On Thursday, January 7, 2010, the Associated Press reported that "Clinton and Mitchell*[were] scheduled to meet" with Gheit on Friday, January 8, 2010: see ABC news here.

On Friday, January 8, 2010, Hillary Clinton and Gheit*spoke with each other.*The U.S. Department of State has provided*video*before*the*meeting: see the Department of State here.
On Saturday, January 9, 2010, NPR spoke with*Gheit about his visit: see NPR.org.

This is a devastating claim, and yet no media outlet is covering it. Remember, during Obama's campaign, I and others were excoriated for using his middle name. We were accused of implying he was a crypto-Muslim. We could not discuss his background, his Islamic schooling, his ties to Islam. However, I have meticulously documented his Muslim background in my soon-to-be-released book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration's War on America.

It became all too clear after his election how proud Obama was of his Muslim name, background, and family. He made this plain when he gave his very first interview to Muslim media and boasted of these things. He suddenly became proud of the very things that were verboten to speak of during the campaign. That was the level of deceit and obfuscation.

If Gheit's reported claim is true, then Obama is a baldfaced liar. But why? Why lie if you have nothing to hide?

Of course, if Obama believes himself a Muslim, then his prior behavior constituted taqiya -- deception or lies to advance Islam. This he performed brilliantly during his election: He lied with brazen contempt. And now his Islamic Jew-hatred is made painfully clear in his stunning rebuke of Israel. In Israel Today, political analyst Aviel Schneider exposes some of the further implications of Gheit's claim:

That could explain why Obama has instructed that the term "Islamic extremism" no longer be used in official government documents and statements. Furthermore, the US is now accusing Israel of harming American interests in the Middle East. General David Petraeus, the head of US Central Command, said Israel's intransigence on resolving the conflict with the Palestinians is endangering US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even the US Congress considers Obama's behavior toward Netanyahu humiliating. Three-quarters of the House of Representatives, 337 of 435 members, signed a bipartisan letter to Clinton expressing "deep concern over recent tension" between the two countries, and demanding that it be smoothed over quickly and in private.

"Obama is a real problem for Israel," a senior official told told Yediot. "He is Israel's biggest strategic catastrophe." The newspaper also quoted another official who believes that for the first time Washington has switched sides. "The Obama White House is putting pressure only on Israel but does not expect anything from the Palestinians," he said. "These American demands are unacceptable."

Is it any wonder that Obama's counterterror adviser speaks Arabic, calls Jerusalem "Al-Quds," and calls jihad a "legitimate tenet of Islam"?

T-Rock
06-18-2010, 15:27
We know that Gheit met with Obama in April 2010 in D.C. -- check out White House.gov, which lists Gheit as one of the attendees of a "Nuclear Security Summit" at that time. And they met more than once. Gheit had a private meeting with Obama in May 2009.

Worse yet, Gheit just last month called Israel "the enemy." This after Israel gave them the Sinai (which Israel had won in a defensive war and defended through another one) with all its oil in return for "peace."
How plausible is Gheit's reported claim about Obama? Let's review Obama's track record:

*March 2009: Obama declares the "war on terror" is over, despite a dramatic increase in jihad war ops.

*March 2009: he floats the idea that he will talk to violent, genocidal Hamas.

*March 2009: he demands that more Muslim Americans work in the Obama administration and insists that they be recruited.

*April 2009: Obama tells Europe to admit Islamic Turkey into the EU, much to the consternation of the Europeans.

*April 2009: Obama demands that non-Muslims respect Islam (despite our differences) in a speech in Turkey.

*April 2009: Obama says in a speech from Turkey, "We are not a Christian nation."

*April 2009: Dalia Mogahed, the first hijab-clad senior adviser to Obama on Muslim affairs, says in an interview with terrorist- and jihad-supporting Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi's website, "Many have claimed that terrorists have 'hijacked Islam.' I disagree. I think Islam is safe and thriving in the lives of Muslims around the world. What the terrorists have been allowed to take over are Muslim grievances."

*April 2009: Obama lays groundwork for a partnership with Hamas.

*May 2009: Obama promises to offer his "personal commitment" to Muslims.

*May 2009: Obama calls America "one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet."

*June 2009: Obama invites the Muslim Brotherhood, a violent global jihadist group whose sole objective is a universal caliphate, to his speech to the ummah (Muslim community) in Cairo.

*June 2009: Obama makes a stunning speech to the Muslim world from Al Azhar University in Cairo. It defies explanation.

*July 2009: Obama reaches out to the violent jihadists of Hezb'allah.

*July 2009: Obama creates a new office at the State Department, Outreach to the Worldwide Muslim community, reporting directly to Hillary Clinton.

*July 2009: The State Department Welcomes Hamas mouthpiece Al-Quds TV to D.C. to filmpPropaganda.Obama promises to close GITMO.Obama is rebuked when plans are revealed for CIA prosecutions for 911 interrogations: Seven Ex-chiefs of CIA Oppose Case Review: ALL Sign letter to Stop CIA Persecutions.

*In July 2009, Obama sanctions the brutal crackdown of those marching for freedom in Iran and sides with the mullahcracy. He stands silent about the Iranian regime's mass executions, mass rape, and murder.

*July 2009: Obama plans to slash the U.S. nuclear arsenal.

*September 2009: Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton on Obama at the U.N.: "This is the most radical anti-Israel speech I can recall any president making...I have to say I was very shaken by this speech."

*October 2009: Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund.

*November 2009, Fort Hood Jihad Coverup: Obama Urges Congress To Put Off Fort Hood Probe, Warns Against Turning Tragedy Into "Political Theater"

*November 2009: Obama offers the Taliban control of the Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan,
Kunar, and Nuristan provinces, in return for a halt to the Taliban missile attacks on U.S. bases.

*November 2009: Obama reaches out to bloodthirsty jihadis in the Philippines.On Thanksgiving eve, Obama issues a special Hajj message to the world's Muslims.

*December 2009: Obama's "Non-Religious" White House Christmas and No Christmas Gifts for his Kids.

*February 2010: Obama names a Hafiz to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. "And as a hafiz of the Koran, [Hussain] is a respected member of the American Muslim community," Obama said in his message to the Doha meeting, using the Arabic world for someone who has memorized the Islamic holy book.

*February 2010: Obama cuts U.S. space program, orders NASA to work with Muslim countries

*February 2010: Covering up for jihadists in the White House.Obama's counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, Involved in Obama Passport Breach

*March 2010: Obama Obsession with Islam: Calls "entrepreneurship summit" with Muslims.April 2010: Libyan President Gaddafi Praises Obama: "Barakeh Obama is friend"; "He is of Muslim descent, his policy should be supported..."

*May 2010: Obama's Counterterrorism Adviser Calls Jihad "Legitimate Tenet of Islam."

*May 2010: White House Pro-Terrorism John Brennan Speechifies in Arabic, Equates Terrorists with Shoplifters, Lawmakers Call for his Firing.

*June 2010: Obama equivocates on the jihad warship convoy (affectionately named a "flotilla" by the media): Obama "Expressed a Deep Regret Over Loss of [Jihadist] Life"

*June 2010: Obama administration to Support Anti-Israel Resolution at U.N.

And earlier this week, Obama became the first president to host a press conference with the American flag nowhere in sight.

Ouch. What a disgrace.

Now: will the lapdog media make Obama address Gheit's claim?
The American people deserve answers. But whether or not what Gheit reportedly says is true, Obama's pro-jihad track record is clear.



Source > http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/report_obama_said_i_am_a_musli.html

Smokin Joe
06-18-2010, 16:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

pheepster
06-19-2010, 00:51
:rolleyes:

Richard
06-19-2010, 02:12
I guess I am not clear in this concept and need help in understanding it all.

On the one hand, if you disagree with a statement or position taken by a Muslim or someone supporting a particular point of order regarding Islamic thinking, you have stated consistently that Muslims can never be believed because they use Taqiyya, the Islamic concept which calls for them to lie to the enemy and deceive him based on Quran 3:28, to fool non-Muslims and those who are gullible or ignorant...

...yet...

...on the other hand, if you agree with the speaker, you declare that we should believe someone - even though he's a Muslim such as Ahmed Aboul Gheit - when he makes a statement to which you are in agreement because it either supports or confirms your views and positions.

Which is it? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pete
06-19-2010, 03:25
............Which is it? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin


Depends on who they are talking to (Muslim vs Non-Muslim) and what they are talking about (Going to the store for a loaf of bread vs Islam is a religion of peace).

Richard
06-19-2010, 05:38
I'm heartened to know that Muslims don't lie to each other and that Ahmed Aboul Gheitand - a politician - was not just making such claims for any political reasons which might either aid his own position within the Islamic political world or seek to deceive and create doubt and disunity in the non-Muslim world for broader political reasons.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Green Light
06-19-2010, 05:51
There was not as much made about BO possibly being a Muslim as Romney being a Mormon. I thought we got over this with Kennedy. Little was said about Joe Lieberman being a Jew when he was running. Reason: It's not politically correct to say "Jew" or criticize them (unless it's all of Israel). Mormons, however, have an open season on them and even though we're at war with a substantial portion of Islam, you're really not supposed to talk about that.

As for his religion, I really don't care. What does matter is whether BO is an effective leader or not. The latter appears to be true. As far as this report goes, the guy appears to be an F6 source.

T-Rock
06-19-2010, 07:52
President Obama appears to be aligning his policies with adherents to Shariah, notably, the Muslim Brotherhood - Why must he feel the need to show goodwill towards radical Muslim groups :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFOnv3xiKPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLIa-p7xNs

Penn
06-19-2010, 09:59
This should prove interesting, watching the developing story and the inclination/agenda of the national press coverage:munchin

Dad
06-19-2010, 10:50
There was not as much made about BO possibly being a Muslim as Romney being a Mormon. I thought we got over this with Kennedy. Little was said about Joe Lieberman being a Jew when he was running. Reason: It's not politically correct to say "Jew" or criticize them (unless it's all of Israel). Mormons, however, have an open season on them and even though we're at war with a substantial portion of Islam, you're really not supposed to talk about that.

As for his religion, I really don't care. What does matter is whether BO is an effective leader or not. The latter appears to be true. As far as this report goes, the guy appears to be an F6 source.

What is an F6 source? Thank you

Peregrino
06-19-2010, 11:04
Total unknown. I would have given him at least an D2 myself.

Richard
06-19-2010, 11:17
What is an F6 source? Thank you

See Part Four - Appendix B

Source and Information Reliability Matrix

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm2-22-3.pdf

Richard :munchin

Sigaba
06-19-2010, 11:27
Logic that makes no sense…
Nazism requires Germans to wage war against non-Germans.
I know someone who is German and doesn't wage war against non-Germans.
Therefore, Nazism doesn't require waging war against non-Germans.
(Right?)The thrust of this argument is that the Nazis only waged war against non-Germans. At best, this position indicates a lack of understanding of modern European history.

T-Rock
06-19-2010, 15:32
The thrust of this argument is that the Nazis only waged war against non-Germans. At best, this position indicates a lack of understanding of modern European history.

It has nothing at all to do with European history :D but illustrates the straw man - used by apologists to defend an ideology, who are willing to jump hoops,… backwards… to defend a position...

Green Light
06-19-2010, 16:44
Total unknown. I would have given him at least an D2 myself.

I was using the SF colloquial form of F6 (Idiot: do not trust. Spidey sense tells me the guy is a liar). On the real scale, you're right.

Sigaba
06-19-2010, 17:07
It ...illustrates the straw man....Perhaps. But maybe not the one you would have readers scrutinize.