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And so it goes...:mad:
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Police: Dutchman Confesses To Killing Lima Woman
AP, 8 June 2010
Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, long the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of a U.S. teen in Aruba, has confessed to killing a young Peruvian woman in his Lima hotel room last week, a police spokesman said.
(cont'd) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100608/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_peru_van_der_sloot
May he get everything he deserves.
Red Flag 1
06-08-2010, 07:01
I find myself wondering just how many this guy may have killed?
Peru does not have a death penalty if I recall correctly; wonder if that was part of why he has finally confessed?
Oh well............new pretty boy for the shower gang!
RF 1
If this report is accurate then the cat is out of the bag. Lets hope he gives a similar confession about Hollaway so her family can have what little closure his information will provide.
On a side note...I would like to take his passport run it and see where he has been since it has been issued. I would then like to look very closely into any unsolved murders and or disappearences of young females. I am betting this guy is a serial killer. (Other than the Holloway and Flores)
dr. mabuse
06-08-2010, 08:57
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GMA had an interesting piece on this guy today and - according to a secretly taped 'sting' - he confessed to the Holloway murder. You can watch it here -
Who Is Joran Van Der Sloot?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
And so it goes...:mad:
Richard :munchin
IPeru does not have a death penalty if I recall correctly; wonder if that was part of why he has finally confessed?
It's been said he's using rage as an excuse. If convicted of murder with rage the sentence is something like 30 years. If murder with robbery is found a life sentence is possible. The father stated jewelry and money where missing.
Joran has made several confessions in the Holloway case. None has led to evidence or Natalee.
Some confessions were taped, including an interview with Greta Van Susteren when he claimed to have sold Natalee.
Transcript, video doesn't seem available here.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html
But on utube.
Part 1, you have to piece it together and there are several series with different total pieces of video (5, 7 or 8).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ru4bv0z_g&feature=related
Would be interesting to have an experienced interrogators take on Jorans confessions.
He also tried to extort money from the Holloway family to reveal what really happened to Natalee. :mad:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/International/joran-van-der-sloot-extortion-plot-natalee-holloway/story?id=10824621
I find myself wondering just how many this guy may have killed?
RF 1
Said this exact thing at work today. His daddy is dead, no one to protect him this time.
Green Light
06-08-2010, 18:17
Said this exact thing at work today. His daddy is dead, no one to protect him this time.
Good. Van der Sloot will have someone waiting for him when he gets to hell. His father has culpability in both of these murders IMO. He not only raised a monster but helped him get away with his crimes.
He's probably not a serial killer, according to one former profiler, but he's definitely a serial date rapist. I don't know about that. But I wonder how many deaths there were before he was almost caught the first time and got away with it.
He won't last a year in a Peruvian prison. They're hell holes.
He won't last a year in a Peruvian prison. They're hell holes.
Seems the going rate for a killing is $50 - $100. FOX had video yesterday, fit your description very well.
Utah Bob
06-10-2010, 11:25
Seems the going rate for a killing is $50 - $100. FOX had video yesterday, fit your description very well.
White Eurotrash kid kills local girl. I doubt any money would even change hands.
He's probably not a serial killer, according to one former profiler, but he's definitely a serial date rapist. I don't know about that. But I wonder how many deaths there were before he was almost caught the first time and got away with it.
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This is based on what? The guy by definition is a serial killer as it is clear he killed Halloway. I know that this guy has been traveling the world on daddy's money for the past five years. He has visited Thailand on at least two occasions to gather women for the Dutch sex trade. There is NO DOUBT this guy has killed more than the two poor girls we know about. It is just a matter of getting the right investigator talking to him.
There might be some more. Investigators are looking into two missing women in Columbia. Interesting comments after the article too.
Colombia police investigate Van der Sloot over missing girls
Published on : 9 June 2010 - 12:01pm | By RNW News Desk (Radio Netherlands Worldwide) (Photo: ANP)
Police in Colombia are investigating whether Dutch national Johan van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance of two girls in Bogotá. The chief suspect in the murder case of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores was reportedly seen in various casinos in the Colombian capital in the company of young girls.
The sensationalist newspaper El Espacio has published an article on the Dutchman, linking his visits to Bogotá casinos to attend poker games between 6 and 14 May 2010, to the young women’s disappearance. The two girls went missing in the same period and - according to eye-witnesses - were spotted in Van der Sloot’s company. The 22-year-old Dutchman stayed at two or more hotels, the newspaper reports.
Crosses the border unnoticed
On 14 May, Van der Sloot left for Peru. According to a Colombian police spokesman, “there is no official documentation” of Johan van der Sloot crossing the Colombian border into Peru. The spokesman admits in Dutch newspaper, the AD, that there are several points along the border where it’s possible to cross over without being checked.
The police spokesman has confirmed that Bogotá is investigating the disappearance of the two girls, but stresses that there is as yet unsubstantiated evidence to implicate Johan van der Sloot, who is still the main suspect in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/colombia-police-investigate-van-der-sloot-over-missing-girls
Green Light
06-10-2010, 19:07
White Eurotrash kid kills local girl. I doubt any money would even change hands.
Bingo. Unless he's in a cell by himself in solitary, they'll get him early. I know that's monstrous too, but there's a certain amount of justice in that.
LongWire
06-11-2010, 02:38
Hope he gets what he deserves!!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/11/van-der-sloot-tells-police-knows-holloway-location
LIMA, Peru -- Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot told police investigators that he knows the location of the body of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, the chief of Peru's criminal police said.
"He let slip that he knew the place where this person was buried," Gen. Cesar Guardia told The Associated Press.
Guardia said, however, that the 22-year-old Dutchman told investigators "he would only testify (on the matter) before Aruba authorities."
Guardia said that he didn't know how seriously to take Van der Sloot's statement given his history of dubious statements about the 2005 disappearance in Aruba of the Alabama teen.
It's been five years since 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Now, Joran van der Sloot, the last known person seen alive with the young Alabama woman, has confessed to hiding her body in an island marsh, according to a Dutch newspaper, and admitted to Peruvian officials that he murdered 21-year-old Peruvian Stephany Flores.
Sheathed in a bulletproof vest, Van der Sloot was moved Thursday across downtown Lima to a cell at the prosecutor's office as officials prepared to file charges in the May 30 killing of Flores, who police say he met playing poker at a casino three days earlier.
Flores was killed five years to the day after Holloway disappeared and prosecutors have until Saturday to file charges in the case.
Van der Sloot's newly hired attorney asked a judge Thursday to declare his client's confession void on the grounds he made it in the presence of a defense lawyer appointed by police.
The attorney, Maximo Altez, could not be reached directly for comment. A person answering his cell phone identified himself as the lawyer's secretary and said Altez was unavailable. Later calls went unanswered.
Guardia dismissed the defense claim, calling the confession wholly admissible in court. In addition to the government-appointed defense attorney, he said, a translator assigned by the Dutch Embassy was present at Monday's confession.
"The incriminatory elements were so powerful that he had to confess," Guardia said, adding that the evidence included blood stains found on Van der Sloot's clothing.
If tried and convicted on murder charges, Van der Sloot would face from 15 to 35 years in prison.
Guardia said Peruvian interrogators had restricted their questioning to the death of Flores, the daughter of a circus promoter and former race car driver.
The May 30, 2005 disappearance of Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean island remains unsolved.
Efforts by the FBI to try to solve it may have inadvertently helped fund the travel that enabled the murder of Flores in Van der Sloot's hotel room.
Believing it was closing in on Van der Sloot, the FBI videotaped and allowed him to be paid $25,000 in a sting operation in Aruba last month. But it held off on arresting him, and he took the money and flew to Peru.
Guardia told the AP in an interview that the 6-foot-3 (190-centimeter-tall) Van der Sloot impressed investigators with both his intelligence and brutality.
He said the husky Dutchman grabbed Flores and smashed her with an elbow before strangling her and throwing her to the floor of his room.
The general said Van der Sloot took Flores' cash, about $300 worth of Peruvian currency, two credit cards and her national ID card.
Guardia said Van der Sloot attested to killing Flores because she found out about the Aruba case by using his laptop without his permission while went out for coffee.
But he said police do not necessarily believe him and think he may have killed Flores before going out and returning to the hotel room with two cups of coffee and rolls.
Col. Miguel Canlla, chief of homicide investigations, told the AP that Van der Sloot took off his shirt after strangling Flores and put it on her. He said the Dutchman wanted to put her body into a suitcase but couldn't.
"He is cold, calculating and cynical," Canlla said.
The evidence against the Dutchman includes hotel security camera video showing Flores and Van der Sloot entering his hotel room together and the Dutchman leaving alone four hours later.
Security camera video from the Atlantic City early on the morning of her death shows Flores arriving at a poker table where Van der Sloot is sitting with other players, shaking his hand as if they met before and then taking the seat next to him. The two later leave together.
Van der Sloot confessed, police say, on his third full day in police custody and a full week after he fled into northern Chile.
He was charged with extortion in the United States on June 2 -- the day of his arrest in Chile -- in a case the commenced after Van der Sloot contacted John Kelly, a New York lawyer for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, in April, according to an affidavit.
The Dutchman allegedly was seeking $250,000 in exchange for the location of the young woman's body, how she died and the identity of those involved.
Van der Sloot's father died in February and he "wanted to come clean, but he also wanted money," said Bo Dietl, a private investigator who worked with Kelly on the case.
After consulting with Twitty, Kelly contacted the FBI.
It sent 10 to 12 agents to Aruba for a sting operation, he said, in which Kelly on May 10 gave Van der Sloot $10,000 in cash and another $15,000 was wired to a bank account.
Van der Sloot was told he would get $225,000 once the body was found, Dietl said. According to the affidavit, Van der Sloot insisted that a written contract be signed between him and Twitty.
Van der Sloot was secretly videotaped by the FBI in an Aruba hotel telling Kelly he pushed Holloway down, that she hit her head on a rock and died, the affidavit says. He said he then contacted his father, who helped him bury the body.
Kelly and Van der Sloot went to where the Dutchman said he and his father had put Holloway -- in the foundation of a house.
No body has been found, however.
And the affidavit says Van der Sloot admitted in a May 17 e-mail -- he was in Peru by then -- that he had lied about the location of Holloway's remains.
It was not the first time Van der Sloot has admitted to having lied about the case. Several times, he made confessions he later retracted.
Van der Sloot was the last person seen with Holloway before the girl vanished on the last night of a high school graduation trip.
He was arrested twice but released both times for a lack of evidence.
He has lied so many times that I get the feeling he enjoys sending folks on fruitless searches for Natalee's body. :mad:
Seeing as how his daddy is dead and this happened in Peru, I think Van der Sloot is going to get the punishment he should have received 5 years ago. :munchin
Goggles Pizano
06-11-2010, 10:30
Five-O hit the nail on the head: Let investigators (competent investigators) complete a thorough check into prior visits outside the Netherlands, the sale of women for who knows what, and then (ONLY then) ship him to general population in that wonderfull hell hole in Peru where he will soon expire as violently as did his victims. Animal.
Utah Bob
06-11-2010, 13:39
The piece of crap wants desperately to get out of Peru and back to the friendly confines of Aruba. I suppose he thinks that maybe he can fees up to the Holloway killing there and get sentenced by the Aruban courts, avoiding a Peruvian hell hole for life.
Hopefully, it won't work.:mad:
The piece of crap wants desperately to get out of Peru and back to the friendly confines of Aruba. I suppose he thinks that maybe he can fees up to the Holloway killing there and get sentenced by the Aruban courts, avoiding a Peruvian hell hole for life.
Peru may be a 'hell hole' of a prison, but the Dutch prison on the desert-like South end of Aruba near the old Esso refinery area looking across the water at Venezuela is no country club - either would be OK with me as long as he goes there and remains somebody's 'b***h' in there for the rest of his life. :mad:
However - YMMV - and so it goes...
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Green Light
06-11-2010, 16:44
Wingtip Shoes - $85
Peruvian Prison - $7,500 a year.
Watching him wake up that first morning in the Peruvian prison and see that extra set of wingtips under his bunk - Priceless!