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JJ_BPK
06-07-2010, 07:50
I hope this AH gets Ft Leavenworth BOHICA Shower Boy #1....



U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe, Kevin Poulsen and Kim Zetter, June 6, 2010

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/

Federal officials have arrested an Army intelligence analyst who boasted of giving classified U.S. combat video and hundreds of thousands of classified State Department records to whistleblower site Wikileaks, Wired.com has learned.

SPC Bradley Manning, 22, of Potomac, Maryland, was stationed at Forward Operating Base Hammer, 40 miles east of Baghdad, where he was arrested nearly two weeks ago by the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division. A family member says he’s being held in custody in Kuwait, and has not been formally charged.

Manning was turned in late last month by a former computer hacker with whom he spoke online. In the course of their chats, Manning took credit for leaking a headline-making video of a helicopter attack that Wikileaks posted online in April. The video showed a deadly 2007 U.S. helicopter air strike in Baghdad that claimed the lives of several innocent civilians.

He said he also leaked three other items to Wikileaks: a separate video showing the notorious 2009 Garani air strike in Afghanistan that Wikileaks has previously acknowledged is in its possession; a classified Army document evaluating Wikileaks as a security threat, which the site posted in March; and a previously unreported breach consisting of 260,000 classified U.S. diplomatic cables that Manning described as exposing “almost criminal political back dealings.”

“Hillary Clinton, and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning, and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available, in searchable format, to the public,” Manning wrote.

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Manning’s arrest comes as Wikileaks has ratcheted up pressure against various governments over the years with embarrassing documents acquired through a global whistleblower network that is seemingly impervious to threats from adversaries. Its operations are hosted on servers in several countries, and it uses high-level encryption for its document submission process, providing secure anonymity for its sources and a safe haven from legal repercussions for itself. Since its launch in 2006, it has never outed a source through its own actions, either voluntarily or involuntarily.

...

“If you had unprecedented access to classified networks 14 hours a day 7 days a week for 8+ months, what would you do?” Manning asked.

From the chat logs provided by Lamo, and examined by Wired.com, it appears Manning sensed a kindred spirit in the ex-hacker. He discussed personal issues that got him into trouble with his superiors and left him socially isolated, and said he had been demoted and was headed for an early discharge from the Army.

When Manning told Lamo that he leaked a quarter-million classified embassy cables, Lamo contacted the Army, and then met with Army CID investigators and the FBI at a Starbucks near his house in Carmichael, California, where he passed the agents a copy of the chat logs. At their second meeting with Lamo on May 27, FBI agents from the Oakland Field Office told the hacker that Manning had been arrested the day before in Iraq by Army CID investigators.

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“I wouldn’t have done this if lives weren’t in danger,” says Lamo, who discussed the details with Wired.com following Manning’s arrest. “He was in a war zone and basically trying to vacuum up as much classified information as he could, and just throwing it up into the air.”

Manning told Lamo that he enlisted in the Army in 2007 and held a Top Secret/SCI clearance, details confirmed by his friends and family members. He claimed to have been rummaging through classified military and government networks for more than a year and said that the networks contained “incredible things, awful things … that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC.”

He first contacted Wikileaks’ Julian Assange sometime around late November last year, he claimed, after Wikileaks posted 500,000 pager messages covering a 24-hour period surrounding the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. ”I immediately recognized that they were from an NSA database, and I felt comfortable enough to come forward,” he wrote to Lamo. He said his role with Wikileaks was “a source, not quite a volunteer.”

Manning had already been sifting through the classified networks for months when he discovered the Iraq video in late 2009, he said. The video, later released by Wikileaks under the title “Collateral Murder,” shows a 2007 Army helicopter attack on a group of men, some of whom were armed, that the soldiers believed were insurgents. The attack killed two Reuters employees and an unarmed Baghdad man who stumbled on the scene afterward and tried to rescue one of the wounded by pulling him into his van. The man’s two children were in the van and suffered serious injuries in the hail of gunfire.

“At first glance it was just a bunch of guys getting shot up by a helicopter,” Manning wrote of the video. “No big deal … about two dozen more where that came from, right? But something struck me as odd with the van thing, and also the fact it was being stored in a JAG officer’s directory. So I looked into it.”

In January, while on leave in the U.S., Manning visited a close friend in Boston and confessed he’d gotten his hands on unspecified sensitive information, and was weighing leaking it, according to the friend. “He wanted to do the right thing,” says 20-year-old Tyler Watkins. “That was something I think he was struggling with.”

Manning passed the video to Wikileaks in February, he told Lamo. After April 5 when the video was released and made headlines Manning contacted Watkins from Iraq asking him about the reaction in the U.S.

“He would message me, Are people talking about it?… Are the media saying anything?,” Watkins said. “That was one of his major concerns, that once he had done this, was it really going to make a difference?… He didn’t want to do this just to cause a stir. … He wanted people held accountable and wanted to see this didn’t happen again.”

Watkins doesn’t know what else Manning might have sent to Wikileaks. But in his chats with Lamo, Manning took credit for a number of other disclosures.

The second video he claimed to have leaked shows a May 2009 air strike near Garani village in Afghanistan that the local government says killed nearly 100 civilians, most of them children. The Pentagon released a report about the incident last year, but backed down from a plan to show video of the attack to reporters.

As described by Manning in his chats with Lamo, his purported leaking was made possible by lax security online and off.

Manning had access to two classified networks from two separate secured laptops: SIPRNET, the Secret-level network used by the Department of Defense and the State Department, and the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System which serves both agencies at the Top Secret/SCI level.

The networks, he said, were both “air gapped” from unclassified networks, but the environment at the base made it easy to smuggle data out.

“I would come in with music on a CD-RW labeled with something like ‘Lady Gaga’, erase the music then write a compressed split file,” he wrote. “No one suspected a thing and, odds are, they never will.”

“[I] listened and lip-synced to Lady Gaga’s ‘Telephone’ while exfiltrating possibly the largest data spillage in American history,” he added later. ”Weak servers, weak logging, weak physical security, weak counter-intelligence, inattentive signal analysis… a perfect storm.”

Manning told Lamo that the Garani video was left accessible in a directory on a U.S. Central Command server, centcom.smil.mil, by officers who investigated the incident. The video, he said, was an encrypted AES-256 ZIP file.

Manning’s aunt, with whom he lived in the U.S., had heard nothing about his arrest when first contacted by Wired.com last week; Debra Van Alstyne said she last saw Manning during his leave in January and they had discussed his plans to enroll in college when his four-year stint in the Army was set to end in October 2011. She described him as smart and seemingly untroubled, with a natural talent for computers and a keen interest in global politics.

She said she became worried about her nephew recently after he disappeared from contact. Then Manning finally called Van Alstyne collect on Saturday. He told her that he was okay, but that he couldn’t discuss what was going on, Van Alstyne said. He then gave her his Facebook password and asked her to post a message on his behalf.

The message reads: “Some of you may have heard that I have been arrested for disclosure of classified information to unauthorized persons. See CollateralMurder.com.”

An Army defense attorney then phoned Van Alstyne on Sunday and said Manning is being held in protective custody in Kuwait. “He hasn’t seen the case file, but he does understand that it does have to do with that Collateral Murder video,” Van Alstyne said.

Manning’s father said Sunday that he’s shocked by his son’s arrest.

“I was in the military for 5 years,” said Brian Manning, of Oklahoma. “I had a Secret clearance, and I never divulged any information in 30 years since I got out about what I did. And Brad has always been very, very tight at adhering to the rules. Even talking to him after boot camp and stuff, he kept everything so close that he didn’t open up to anything.”

continued.......


As they are holding him in Kuwait,,

Could they be thinking of "terrorist" charges?? :D:lifter:D

Where are the JAG'ist ??

Richard
06-07-2010, 08:49
As they are holding him in Kuwait, could they be thinking of "terrorist" charges?

HQs, 3rd MP Group (CID) with responsibility for the ARCENT AOR is located in Kuwait.

http://www.cid.army.mil/units_foreign.html

Richard :munchin

JJ_BPK
06-07-2010, 09:04
HQs, 3rd MP Group (CID) with responsibility for the CENTCOM AOR is located in Kuwait.

http://www.cid.army.mil/units_foreign.html

Richard :munchin

Richard,, YOU are no fun,, I was hoping for a little Ordinary Rendition and Water Boarding by the Kuwaitis...

:mad::mad::mad:

BMT (RIP)
06-07-2010, 10:17
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/

:munchin

BMT


Combined the two threads. JJ beat you to the punch. P.

sf11b_p
06-07-2010, 11:54
FOX news stated Manning claims to have leaked over 250,000 other classified items. Evidently he's with MI.

The militay said Monday Specialist Bradley Manning, 22, of Potomac, Maryland is being held in pre-trial confinement in Kuwait. Manning is deployed with 2nd Brigade 10th Mountain Division, in Baghdad, Iraq.

"The Department of Defense takes the management of classified information very seriously because it affects our national security, the lives of our Soldiers, and our operations abroad," a statement from U.S Forces-Iraq reads.

In April WikiLeaks made headlines when it released classified military footage it titled "Collateral Murder", which showed showed Army forces shooting Iraqis from helicopters and killing two Reuters cameramen, among others. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said the video amounted to the "indiscriminate slaying" of Iraqis and "another day at the office" for the U.S. Army.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/06/07/soldier-busted-for-leaking-to-wikileaks/?test=latestnews

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/07/2010-06-07_spc_bradley_manning_allegedly_arrested_for_leak ing_collateral_murder_helicopter_.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10255887.stm

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/u-s-soldier-arrested-in-wikileaks-probe-after-tip-from-former-hacker/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127529195

And I missed this earlier post,,,

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29206

So this thread can be deleted... or moved, thanks forum QP.

Voronov
06-07-2010, 12:17
This video was brought to my attention about a month ago... A few of my old "friends" were interested in swaying my military interests and my career choice.

They argued that the military was filled with scumbags and people who just love to kill. Like every other piece of anti-military propaganda, this video shows the killing of "innocent" civilians who were just walking down the street, without even pointing out the facts that cameras, bags, and sneaking around like you're a mall ninja doesn't make you look suspicious at all :rolleyes: Especially when a large circular tube pops up over someones shoulder when they crouch behind a wall to look up at the heli, right?

I support the decision of the flight crew to engage in the target, and i'm proud to say it. They followed procedure and did what appeared to be in the best interest of security.

But hey, that's just my 00.02.

Combat Diver
06-07-2010, 12:50
Passing Classified information during a time of war, isn't that TREASON and punishable by death? Remember when that Navy guy was selling secrets to the KGB, he was tried for Treason. Same thing with MAJ Hessan, changing sides during war and killing/injuring fellow soldiers he was sworn to protect should not be tried as a terrorist but as a Tradior/Treason. What this soldier did was not whistle blowing but treason.

CD

ReefBlue
06-07-2010, 13:43
Passing Classified information during a time of war, isn't that TREASON and punishable by death? Remember when that Navy guy was selling secrets to the KGB, he was tried for Treason. Same thing with MAJ Hessan, changing sides during war and killing/injuring fellow soldiers he was sworn to protect should not be tried as a terrorist but as a Tradior/Treason. What this soldier did was not whistle blowing but treason.

CD

That, and, what about possession of this stuff, especially with intent to distribute?

Wikileaks can say they're not in the US and not subject to US laws, but they're basically in possession of classified information. I'd have a hard time believing that is limited by borders.

Peregrino
06-07-2010, 18:42
This jack ass on the other hand needs to be put to death.

My only objection is that the penalty would not be applied to the progressive party's "sanctioned" leakers. :mad: If it's not applied equitably then it constitutes "cruel and unusual" and can't be considered (not that I object mind you - I just think it needs to apply to everyone).

Stras
06-07-2010, 19:53
I do believe that the Firing Squad is still a viable form of punishment. perhaps they should confirm their zeros.

SparseCandy
06-09-2010, 11:27
What gets me is this quote:

"“If you had unprecedented access to classified networks 14 hours a day 7 days a week for 8+ months, what would you do?” Manning asked"

Umm, I'd do my job - not spread classified information to the world.

mark46th
06-09-2010, 15:23
String him up...

Green Light
06-10-2010, 20:24
String him up...

Do it slowly. Make it hurt. Scum!

BryanK
07-30-2013, 11:20
Manning found "not guilty" on the aiding the enemy charge:

WaPo article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-to-announce-verdict-in-bradley-manning-case-today/2013/07/29/e894a75c-f897-11e2-afc1-c850c6ee5af8_story.html)

:mad:

Gypsy
07-30-2013, 17:57
Why am I not surprised? :mad:

JHD
07-31-2013, 03:49
With the charges of which he was found guilty, hopefully with sentencing he won't see the light of day for a loooong time.

chance
08-21-2013, 10:00
"Bradley, we are with you." F$&KING Morons!!!!

JHD
08-21-2013, 11:25
He could be out in 10 years or so, and bless his heart, he suffers from gender identity disorder. I hope my tax dollars don't end up paying for a sex change operation.

The Reaper
08-21-2013, 11:48
He could be out in 10 years or so, and bless his heart, he suffers from gender identity disorder. I hope my tax dollars don't end up paying for a sex change operation.

Not possible, unless he dies there.

TR

JimP
08-21-2013, 13:28
Reaper, want to place a friendly wager as to who ends up paying for his "transformation"?

Remember the way this administration is pushing the military....:munchin

The Reaper
08-21-2013, 13:31
Reaper, want to place a friendly wager as to who ends up paying for his "transformation"?

Remember the way this administration is pushing the military....:munchin

I don't think he is going to be out in ten years on a 35 year sentence to the USDB, regardless.

TR

JHD
08-21-2013, 13:42
He is actually eligible for parole in about eight. Not sure how sympathetic he will be to a parole board, but there is the chance he will be released while he is still in his early thirties.

Plenty of time to make lots of money on his book and movie deals.:mad:

The Reaper
08-21-2013, 14:14
He is actually eligible for parole in about eight. Not sure how sympathetic he will be to a parole board, but there is the chance he will be released while he is still in his early thirties.

Plenty of time to make lots of money on his book and movie deals.:mad:

For sentences in excess of 30 years, the inmate must serve 1/3 of his sentence to be considered for clemency.

The clemency approval rate, last I heard, was under 2%.

Most inmates are not paroled at their first consideration. 90% are paroled by their third consideration.

The USDB has some peculiarities, but it ain't Club Fed.

TR

JJ_BPK
08-21-2013, 14:44
He was given credit for time served, 1293 days (3.5yrs), so to get to 1/3 or 11.66, he needs a little over 8.

But TR is correct, he will not get a free pass at the 1st parole board.

JHD
08-21-2013, 14:44
So at 8 more years until his hearing to be at 1/3 his sentence, then two years between hearings, if released on his 3rd hearing, that would be at 12 years. Does that jive with the info you have? I wasn't sure about the time between hearings, but I believe it is required every two years.

We can hope he won't be in the 90 percent released by the third hearing, and maybe he will be kept longer.

JJ_BPK
08-21-2013, 15:10
Remember Charlie??


Manson was denied parole for the 12th time on April 11, 2012. Manson did not attend the hearing where prison officials argued that Manson had a history of controlling behavior and mental health issues including schizophrenia and paranoid delusional disorder and was too great a danger to be released. It was determined that Manson would not be reconsidered for parole for another 15 years, at which time he would be 92 years old.

JimP
08-21-2013, 16:11
The problem is that Charlie Manson does not have a very vocal support group ranging from citizens to media to government officials supporting him as does Bwadley.

Also, Bwadley is the poster child of the "new soldier" this adminsitration is foisting upon the force.

I'm betting he sees nothing even close to the 35 years. 12 years and he'll be the hero on the street. He can run for Congress in massachusetts.

tonyz
08-21-2013, 17:52
...He can run for Congress in massachusetts.

He could probably be elected to Congress in Massachusetts.

He would almost certainly have little problem obtaining a lesser public office in Massachusetts.

What a sad commentary.

Oldrotorhead
08-21-2013, 18:30
He could probably be elected to Congress in Massachusetts.

He would almost certainly have little problem obtaining a lesser public office in Massachusetts.

What a sad commentary.

He could if he comes out as a gay/tranny Indian. He walk away from the pack!

tonyz
08-21-2013, 18:39
Manning is, among other things, a felon, and a traitor to his nation... seems to hit some high points for not an insubstantial number of folks these days !

Undoubtably, a professorship awaits this creep somewhere.

PRB
08-21-2013, 18:55
Shower boy didn't get enough time...remember he is admittedly gay so the shower time will be recreation for him.
50 years min should have been the deal...as it is he can be out in 8.

cbtengr
08-21-2013, 18:57
As a country we have gone far too soft, I am glad that the bulk of my life is behind me.

Richard
08-22-2013, 06:26
And so it begins...

Bradley Manning, the Army private sentenced to military prison for leaking classified documents, revealed he intends to live out the remainder of his life as a woman.

“I am Chelsea Manning. I am female,” the Army private wrote in a statement read on TODAY Thursday. “Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition.”

http://www.today.com/news/bradley-manning-i-want-live-woman-6C10974915

Richard

Trapper John
08-22-2013, 06:32
I am certain that some of his/her fellow inmates will be more than happy to assist in his/her transition. :D

BMT (RIP)
08-22-2013, 06:41
A better description would be if a football player, he would enter prison a tight end and come out as a wide receiver. :D

BMT

JimP
08-22-2013, 08:37
Dang!! and no one wanted to take me up on the bet. At this rate, the administration will have doctors lined up to take his junk within the month.

Funny, if I claim I am Napolean they haul me off and toss the key; but if I claim I'm "Chelsea", I'll get special treatment and tax-payer funds to complete the transition.

98G
08-22-2013, 09:04
And so it begins...

Bradley Manning, the Army private sentenced to military prison for leaking classified documents, revealed he intends to live out the remainder of his life as a woman.

“I am Chelsea Manning. I am female,” the Army private wrote in a statement read on TODAY Thursday. “Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition.”

http://www.today.com/news/bradley-manning-i-want-live-woman-6C10974915

Richard

Hormones or not, I am sure his fellow inmates will treat him as a girl. Everybody is a winner this round.

Oldrotorhead
08-22-2013, 09:08
Dang!! and no one wanted to take me up on the bet. At this rate, the administration will have doctors lined up to take his junk within the month.

Funny, if I claim I am Napolean they haul me off and toss the key; but if I claim I'm "Chelsea", I'll get special treatment and tax-payer funds to complete the transition.

The sad part of this is he is a better looking Chelsea then Chelsea Clinton. :eek:
I don't think the DOD has any provisions to offer the treatments he claims to want. It will be interesting to see who steps in on his behalf.

JJ_BPK
08-22-2013, 10:37
Everybody is a WIENER this round.

WEINER??

IS SHE RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF NYC??

69harley
08-22-2013, 12:42
And so it begins...

Bradley Manning, the Army private sentenced to military prison for leaking classified documents, revealed he intends to live out the remainder of his life as a woman.

“I am Chelsea Manning. I am female,” the Army private wrote in a statement read on TODAY Thursday. “Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition.”

http://www.today.com/news/bradley-manning-i-want-live-woman-6C10974915

Richard

At least he accepts his new role in life and is actively trying to prepare for it. You couldn't make this stuff up. I bet his dad is real proud, NOT.

orion5
08-23-2013, 12:54
From Mark Bowden, of 'Black Hawk Down' fame....I agree with what he says about the naiveté of Snowden/Manning, but I don't agree that Manning's sentence is excessive.

I also agree that Julian Assange/Glenn Greenwald will continue to find/groom traitors to further their own personal agenda, thus turning any sort of useful whistleblowing into a global circus.

LINK (http://qz.com/118328/what-snowden-and-manning-dont-understand-about-secrecy/)

What Snowden and Manning don't understand about secrecy

By Mark Bowden, The Atlantic
August 23, 2013

As an old reporter who has from time to time outed classified information, I have watched the cases of Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden with professional interest.

What troubles me about them is not that they broke the oaths they swore when they took their classified government jobs, the thing that makes them liable to prosecution. Government finds all kinds of dubious reasons to keep secrets, sometimes nefarious reasons, and conscience can force one to break a promise. My problem is with the indiscriminate nature of their leaks.

These are young people at war with the concept of secrecy itself, which is just foolish. There are many legitimate reasons for governments to keep secrets, among them the need to preserve the element of surprise in military operations or criminal investigations, to permit leaders and diplomats to bargain candidly, and to protect the identities of those we ask to perform dangerous and difficult missions.

The most famous leakers in American history were motivated not by a general opposition to secrecy but by a desire to expose specific wrongdoing. Mark Felt, the “Deep Throat” who helped steer Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein’s Watergate reporting, understood that the Nixon Administration was energetically abusing the powers of the presidency. Daniel Ellsberg copied and leaked the Pentagon Papers because they showed that the White House and Pentagon had never really believed the lies they were telling about the Vietnam War.

In other words, they had good reasons. The reporters and editors who published their leaks weighed taking that step seriously, ultimately deciding that the public’s need to know trumped the principle of secrecy. They concluded that the government in these instances was abusing its power.

Manning and Snowden are wholesale leakers. I can’t know this for a fact, but I suspect they were not completely aware of all they carried off. It isn’t just that they didn’t completely understand what they were leaking; they literally did not know what all of it was. Computers enable individual operators to open floodgates. Out spills everything, the legitimate along with the illegitimate. It’s easy, and it’s irresponsible. It proceeds from a Julian Assange-influenced, comic-book vision of the world where all governments are a part of an evil plot against humanity.

In my experience, government does routinely abuse its power to classify information, sometimes for ridiculous reasons. Sometimes it seems that officials declare something secret just because they can. As a transportation reporter forThe Philadelphia Inquirer, I remember battling state transportation officials to release accident information—I wanted to write a story about which intersections were the most dangerous. Never mind that knowing where it was most treacherous to drive would be useful for public safety, and that the agencies involved in collection this data were public agencies, the numbers were, I was told, a state secret. When I walked through the old US Embassy Chancery Building in Tehran in 2005, now an anti-American museum, there was an exhibit of documents seized during the 1979 takeover. The papers looked damning. They were stamped impressively, ‘Top Secret,” and “Eyes Only.” Few of the Iranian students who were marched through read English, and I’m sure few doubted that the documents on display revealed details of the Great Satan’s “plot” to derail the glorious Islamic Revolution. Close inspection revealed that the framed papers were orders from the embassy motor pool for spare parts.

There have been a few things in the Manning and Snowden leaks that might have warranted taking a principled stand, but the great bulk of what they delivered shows our nation’s military, intelligence agencies, and foreign service working hard at their jobs—doing the things we the people, through our elected representatives, have ordered them to do. It came as no surprise to me that America has been aggressively collecting massive pools of data in order to discover and derail terrorist attacks in advance, an enormously difficult thing to do, and yet the very thing Americans demanded after 9/11.

I think Manning’s 35-year prison sentence is excessive, and expect it will eventually be reduced. Whatever danger Manning (who has now asked to live as a woman named Chelsea) poses to American society can be avoided by denying her access to Pentagon computers. Snowden may have found a way to punish himself worse. He has turned himself into an enduring symbol of idiocy by fleeing the oppressive grip of Barack Obama for the open arms of that great civil libertarian, Vladimir Putin.

Both Manning and Snowden strike me not as heroes, but as naifs. Neither appears to have understood what they were getting themselves into, and, more importantly, what they were doing.


Mark Bowden is an Atlantic national correspondent. His most recent book is The Finish: The Killing of Osama bin Laden.

Richard
08-23-2013, 15:25
For the e-Bay collectors corner...

Richard

Trapper John
08-23-2013, 16:46
Where do you get that stuff?? That was terrific :D

98G
08-23-2013, 17:28
WEINER??

IS SHE RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF NYC??

JJ you had me racing to see if I really made that typo! :confused: Well done.

The Duffel Blog had a great story on him today. "Bradley Manning sentence to 35 more years as a Dude."

PSM
08-23-2013, 17:29
Where do you get that stuff?? That was terrific :D

Boys R Us :D

Pat

The Reaper
08-23-2013, 18:30
So far, the ruling in the Fed system is that they will maintain what you come in as.

If you are taking hormones, they will give them to you.

Wait till after your conviction to be a gender-bender, they are not obligated to do anything.

Yet.

And some people just want extra attention.:rolleyes:

TR

medic&commo
08-24-2013, 08:29
So far, the ruling in the Fed system is that they will maintain what you come in as.

If you are taking hormones, they will give them to you.

Wait till after your conviction to be a gender-bender, they are not obligated to do anything.

Yet.

And some people just want extra attention.:rolleyes:

TR

TR,
I felt better after starting to read your post unit I read "Yet."
Hope it never gets to that point, but I'm not holding my breath.

m&c

The Reaper
08-24-2013, 09:17
I'm hoping that Hassan and WoManning get to be cellies.

Should be good for both of them.

TR

cbtengr
05-14-2014, 06:47
Sounds as if Manning is gonna get her wish, he/she has been subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. Why not put any money wasted on transgenders towards keeping commissaries open?

"Some officials have said privately that keeping the soldier in a military prison and unable to have treatment could amount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Chuck Hagel, the defense secretary, last month gave the Army approval to try to work out a transfer plan with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, which does provide such treatment, two Pentagon officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record."



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627737/Pentagon-OKs-Manning-transfer-gender-treatment.html

miclo18d
05-14-2014, 17:33
Sounds as if Manning is gonna get her wish, he/she has been subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. Why not put any money wasted on transgenders towards keeping commissaries open?

"Some officials have said privately that keeping the soldier in a military prison and unable to have treatment could amount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Chuck Hagel, the defense secretary, last month gave the Army approval to try to work out a transfer plan with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, which does provide such treatment, two Pentagon officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record."



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627737/Pentagon-OKs-Manning-transfer-gender-treatment.html

Screw em! Give (s)him the operation and put (s)him right back in Leavenworth, female unit! I want them to call her/his bluff! Split his/her penis right down the middle and flip it inside out, and sew on some labia! I give him a year before he/she starts whining that she/he wants to be a "mann" again!

The Reaper
05-14-2014, 18:50
If Manning is in the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks and he is thinking about moving to the U.S. Penitentiary Leavenworth, he is going to become a woman very soon after arrival, even without the surgery. His cellies might do the operation for him.

No one in their right mind wants to move from the DB to a Federal Pen.

TR

Ghost_Team
05-15-2014, 14:15
No one in their right mind wants to move from the DB to a Federal Pen.

TR

No one in their right mind wants their plumbing re-routed, either.

Old Dog New Trick
01-17-2017, 15:38
Friday can't come soon enough.

BHO just pardoned "it"! (The story popped up as Breaking News but I can't find a story or link from CNN)

Are we still on the hook for gender reassignment?

Good thing Bergdahl has continued postpone his trial.

Penn
01-17-2017, 15:51
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html

Busy day, obama also is sending 4 Gitmo to the Saudi's

DIYPatriot
01-17-2017, 15:53
Friday can't come soon enough.

BHO just pardoned "it"! (The story popped up as Breaking News but I can't find a story or link from CNN)

Are we still on the hook for gender reassignment?

Good thing Bergdahl has continued postpone his trial.

I just saw the same thing. So....does "Chelsea" get pardoned, but "Bradley" remains in prison? How does that work?

frostfire
01-17-2017, 17:20
Surely I am not the only whose cheeks are raw from the slap :mad:

JJ_BPK
01-17-2017, 17:26
It's all over the place.. :mad:


link to: It's Pardon!!! (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0&mtrref=drudgereport.com&gwh=668FB192E2F036364788F75E31CC12B5&gwt=pay)

Mustang Man
01-17-2017, 18:20
There's more to this.


Julian Assange says he'll turn himself in if Obama pardons Chelsea Manning

"If Obama grants Manning clemency, Assange will agree to US prison in exchange -- despite its clear unlawfulness," WikiLeaks said in a tweet on Thursday. The tweet included a link to a letter from Assange's attorney, Barry Pollack, calling on the Justice Department to be more transparent about its investigation into WikiLeaks.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/9/16/12939232/julian-assange-wikileaks-chelsea-manning-obama?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

The Dems couldn't have been anymore furious at Wikileaks after Assange cost them the election. Seems like Obama wanted to reel him in last chance possible. However Assange has been long dead and still called out O's bluff.

PRB
01-17-2017, 18:48
Considering he put soldiers in harms way and prob led to the death of some assets....it is a pardon.
The mentally ill little fck should be in the big house for life and a day.

Divemaster
01-17-2017, 20:11
Did anyone else wonder why the commutation isn't until 17 May? I figure that someone did some backward planning:

Finish chick hormone therapy.
Pre-op work up.
Slashadictomy.
Post op recovery.
Ta-da, May 17th.

Now, let's start this rumor on social media:

Tomorrow Obama will pardon Snowden and fly him in just in time to attend the inauguration.

cbtengr
01-17-2017, 20:20
Considering he put soldiers in harms way and prob led to the death of some assets....it is a pardon.
The mentally ill little fck should be in the big house for life and a day.

Yes Mentally ill, he will never be a she, never.

Divemaster
01-17-2017, 20:44
Yes Mentally ill, he will never be a she, never.

My Sociology text book says that gender is a choice. A college text book, especially in Socioloigy, wouldn't lie.

Ret10Echo
01-17-2017, 21:30
Actually it is clemency not pardon. HE/it gets out but the conviction stays on its record. A pardon would mean no longer a felony record. I can not wait for this fuck stick to get out of office.

I'm seeing a petulant child trying to inflict as much damage to the incoming administration as possible. Such a tool. There will be a day of reckoning some day for this piece of offal.

mark46th
01-18-2017, 01:07
Maybe this will piss off enough people to get Trump to go after the Clintons.

Ret10Echo
01-18-2017, 07:59
I have always enjoyed Ben Stein's commentary. (Ever since Ferris Bueller's Day Off :D )

Ben gives his take on Bradley's commuted sentence and the leftist-in-chief.

Great point made on the shrilling by Dims about "leaks" of their information while Zero commutes the sentence of someone who leaked information (that was much, much more damaging....really).


Ben Stein said Obama's commutation of Manning's 35-year sentence is proof that America is now seeing the "real Barack Obama".

"[He is] an extremely left-wing ideologue... [and is] showing himself to be anti-law-and-order and... anti-military," Stein said.

Worth a listen: here (http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/17/president-obama-commutes-private-chelsea-mannings-sentence-wikileaks-military-bradley-ben)

Karma... Wait on it.

DIYPatriot
01-19-2017, 15:02
Obama stepped up efforts to use his clemency power over his final years in office, focusing his efforts primarily on reversing decades of drug-war punishments. Based on Bloomberg analysis of Justice Department data, more than 98 percent of those whose sentences he commuted were convicted of drug charges, and over 500 were facing life in prison.

These commutations of drug-related charges are consistent with broader efforts by the Obama administration to reduce the length of such sentences. The administration began a program in 2014 to identify prisoners jailed for nonviolent offenses who had served at least a decade in prison and would receive lower sentences if convicted today. A year later, the Justice Department announced new rules to ensure that low-level, nonviolent drug offenders would no longer be charged with federal crimes that impose strict mandatory minimum sentences.

Some Republican lawmakers have objected to the commutations, arguing that the efforts freed individuals with ties to organized crime or who possessed firearms during the commission of drug crimes. But the White House has noted that those who receive commutations are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms.

Continued (https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-obama-clemency/?cmpid=flipboard)

Ret10Echo
01-19-2017, 15:13
I'm sure the person having a wall built around his mansion, under armed protection, whose children attend elite private schools with extensive security sees absolutely NO problem with releasing drug dealers and terrorists.

Must suck to be poor and working class.

cbtengr
01-19-2017, 19:28
He's not really doing them much of a favor, what are they going to do on the outside? They are going to have to really be motivated in order to make it on the outside.

Combat Diver
01-20-2017, 06:46
Manning leaving prison will have a dishonorable discharge, ie no benifits to include medical. :D


CD

mark46th
01-20-2017, 09:10
"But the White House has noted that those who receive commutations are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms."

Ha Ha! You funny Peta-san!!!

Hand
01-20-2017, 09:24
Continued (https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-obama-clemency/?cmpid=flipboard)

To complement this chart, here is a list of the actual recipients and their crimes by president here. (https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemencyrecipients)

Old Dog New Trick
01-20-2017, 13:00
So if Chelsea is released on May 17, what will Bradley be doing?

bblhead672
01-20-2017, 13:35
So if Chelsea is released on May 17, what will Bradley be doing?

Exactly! Perhaps Bradley and Bruce can get together and compare notes.

cbtengr
01-25-2017, 20:50
Bradley Manning no fan of Obama, go figure.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4157712/Chelsea-Manning-slams-Obama-compromises.html

In her first published column since Obama commuted her 35-year sentence, Manning slammed him as a weak leader with 'few permanent accomplishments,'

SF_BHT
05-17-2017, 06:59
Well he was released at 2am and is now walking the streets. Does he still not like Obama? :eek: