View Full Version : Backpackper Shoots, Kills Grizzly in Alaska Park
Who needs a 44Mag, 454 Casull, or 500S&W.... :lifter
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/31/backpackper-shoots-kills-grizzly-alaska-park/
ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Officials say a backpacker shot and killed a grizzly bear with his handgun in Alaska's Denali National Park.
Park spokeswoman Kris Fister says man and woman reported that they were hiking Friday evening when the bear emerged from trailside brush and charged the woman.
Fister says the man fired nine rounds from his .45 caliber, semiautomatic pistol at the animal, which then stopped and walked into the brush.
On Saturday, rangers found the dead bear about 100 feet from the shooting site.
Rangers say it was the first known instance of a grizzly bear being shot by a visitor in the wilderness portion of Denali.
Buffalobob
05-31-2010, 08:53
Parks biologists and rangers are investigating the case, trying to figure out whether the backpacker had justification for shooting the bear, said Kris Fister, a park spokeswoman. The parks service was withholding the hiker's name as of Sunday.
Fister's statement read that "it is legal to carry a firearm in the (original) portion of the park, but it is not legal to discharge it."
Grizzly's do a lot of false charges so I am told. Whether a person wishes to wait and see if the bear is serious or just bluffing is a personal question but in a National Park one is much better off first trying pepper spray if one has the time to do so and apparently these people had time.
http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2010/05/grizzly-bear-shot-and-killed-hikers-denali-national-park-and-preserve5943
I am not fixing to swap my S&W 460 for a 1911 anytime soon.
Green Light
05-31-2010, 09:31
When I was a kid in Alaska, we always carried a .357 when we went fishing. We were told that if a Brownie charged, start shooting and don't stop. The distance that folks usually saw one charging them was less than 40 yards. They can cover that distance in a couple of seconds. Glad they weren't hurt but it's too bad that the animal died. They're magnificent animals.
Dirt Gallo
06-02-2010, 20:01
Magnificent animals...sure. Call me chicken shit, but, if I see a bear running at me down a trail and it's within pepper spray range, I'll sure wish I had a firearm instead.
Just sayin'....
Agreed
Magnificent animals...sure. Call me chicken shit, but, if I see a bear running at me down a trail and it's within pepper spray range, I'll sure wish I had a firearm instead.
Just sayin'....
incarcerated
06-02-2010, 23:45
Magnificent animals...sure. Call me chicken shit, but, if I see a bear running at me down a trail and it's within pepper spray range, I'll sure wish I had a firearm instead.
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Personally, would prefer a hand grenade.
Green Light
06-03-2010, 04:23
Actually the best round for grizzly protection is the .22 long rifle. The proper way to use it is to shoot whoever you are with in the kneecap and take off running. You dont have to outrun the bear just the person you are with. :p
The old swim buddy shark attack drill! :D
Utah Bob
06-03-2010, 09:05
Grizzly's do a lot of false charges so I am told. Whether a person wishes to wait and see if the bear is serious or just bluffing is a personal question but in a National Park one is much better off first trying pepper spray if one has the time to do so and apparently these people had time.
http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2010/05/grizzly-bear-shot-and-killed-hikers-denali-national-park-and-preserve5943
I am not fixing to swap my S&W 460 for a 1911 anytime soon.
Given the speed with which a griz attacks a use of force continuum involving:
Boot bells
Harsh words
Pepper spray
Firearm.
might not be practical
A moreeffective course would be "Oh shit! BEAR! Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang:
A friend of mine told me his wife's uncle killed a bear on Kodiak island with a Buck folder. I laughed and told him he was full of shit. Turns out he wasn't.:eek:
http://www.adn.com/2006/04/12/204002/deer-hunter-battles-grizzly-ends.html
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/larry-mueller-and-marguerite-reiss/2007/09/last-stand
http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/protection_gene_moe.aspx
The Reaper
06-03-2010, 09:25
Given the speed with which a griz attacks a use of force continuum involving:
Boot bells
Harsh words
Pepper spray
Firearm.
might not be practical
A moreeffective course would be "Oh shit! BEAR! Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang:
A friend of mine told me his wife's uncle killed a bear on Kodiak island with a Buck folder. I laughed and told him he was full of shit. Turns out he wasn't.:eek:
http://www.adn.com/2006/04/12/204002/deer-hunter-battles-grizzly-ends.html
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/larry-mueller-and-marguerite-reiss/2007/09/last-stand
http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/protection_gene_moe.aspx
One of my favorite stories.
Never give up.
TR
Buffalobob
06-03-2010, 09:27
What I learned the easy way one night last hunting season in Utah was even with a bright flash light and a loaded pistol and knowing some large animals is present you may not get a shot fired before the animal gets to you.
Of course I am so self trained to identify the target before shooting, that I lost all of the response time trying to figure out what it was that was attacking me there in the dark. That is good and bad in that you don't wind up shooting somebody or something you wish you hadn't shot but the downside is the the first blood on the ground is going to be yours. If a person can't tolerate some of his own blood on the ground then he should not be a member of this forum. Also goes to my philosophy of not having a loaded gun in my home (out camping by myself is different issue)
Turned out my night time attackers were a couple of stray and hungry cattle dogs that had been cast aside by some worthless rancher in Utah who was grazing cows on public land. I fed them and they hung out at camp for a while.
incarcerated
06-03-2010, 09:28
There could be a drawback to these…
Huh, some years ago the only talking would have been how to cut up the meat, steaks, loins, stew meat, jerk and what seasonings to gather up. Oh, and how it tasted.
IIRC there was an old adage, " The best type of pistol for a Grizzly is one without a frontsight." Why? because when the bear takes it from you it and shoves it up your @ss...;)
Seriously, the knife story is incredible.
Utah Bob
06-03-2010, 14:29
There could be a drawback to these…
Yup. The Jihadists will scatter but you'll be up to your ass in bears and Coyotes.
incarcerated
06-03-2010, 15:09
Yup. The Jihadists will scatter but you'll be up to your ass in bears and Coyotes.
Damn!
An old tune my Grandfather used to sing around the camp fire.
The Forest Ranger
O once there was a Ranger / Who always did his best
He wore the Service uniform / And a badge upon his chest
He had no interest / Save in his forest.
He ate his breakfast early / Two hours before daylight
He hit the trail at sun-up / And kept it up till night
And half the night / He'd read and write…
The Ranger loved the mountains / But asked two things from life
That one he should own a forest / And the other to find a wife
For to marry / Was necessary.
One day a tourist's daughter / Got lost out in the brush
They telephoned the Ranger / And he was there with a rush
They needn't worry / For he would hurry.
He tracked her down a canyon / And up a mountain side
And if he hadn't found her / She certainly would have died
But she was plucky / And that was lucky.
For when the ranger saw her / A great big grizzly bear
Had her up on a pile of rocks / And he was a-keeping her there
And now the Ranger / Was in great danger.
But the Ranger ran right up / And pulled his forty-five
And the air turned blue with the smoke of his gun / But the bear was still alive
And he was comin’, / And a comin' a runnin
Now the Ranger's guns were empty / So he pulled his Bowie knife
For the bear was coming for him / And he had to save his life
And for a fight / That was all right.
The bear was bleeding badly / But the Ranger was all in
When the bear hit him an awful smash / And it looked just like a win
But in a clem / Cherche la femme.
The bear reached for the Ranger / Who had fainted with the shock
When the girl ran a hairpin down his ear / And beaned him with a rock
The with the knife / She took his life.
Now The Ranger's leg was broken / But they had to get outside
So the girl she carried him fifty miles / And all the way she cried
For she was sad / And also glad.
She nursed the Ranger daily / And then one moonlight night
He said, "My dear, will you marry me? / You certainly can fight
You saved my life / Please be my wife."
"O yes, O yes", she answered / "But you certainly were slow
I'd rather marry a Ranger / Than any man I know
And I'd rather marry you / Than I would to carry you."
One of my favorite stories.
Never give up.
TR
Actually the best round for grizzly protection is the .22 long rifle. The proper way to use it is to shoot whoever you are with in the kneecap and take off running. You dont have to outrun the bear just the person you are with. :p
And just how do you know CSM Purdy?
6.8SPC_DUMP
06-06-2010, 04:45
Dad of the year 2007?
Ex-marine Chris Everhart was camping with his three sons camping on Fathers Day, in the Chattahoochee National Forest in northern Georgia, when a three hundred pound black bear grabbed their cooler.
Everhart's youngest (6 year old) son threw a shovel at the bear that dropped the cooler and started towards the boy.
Chris Everhart grabbed a small log from the wood pile and hurled it at the bear killing it with one blow to the head. He thought he just knocked it out but the Park Rangers confirmed its death and the story (also asking Chris to sign a stick for them).