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JJ_BPK
05-26-2010, 04:49
I hope he is prepared is enjoy his retirement..


Canadian commander in Afghanistan pleads guilty at court martial, Juliet O’Neill, Canwest News Service Published: Tuesday, May 25, 2010

GATINEAU, Que. - Brig.-Gen. Daniel Menard, the commander of Canadian Forces in Afghanistan, was fined $3,500 after pleading guilty at a court martial Tuesday to neglect in handling his C8 rifle.

"It sends a message that nobody is above the law," defence lawyer Lt.-Col. Troy Sweet said after the fine, proposed jointly by defence and prosecution, was accepted by Judge Mario Dutil.

Brig.-Gen. Menard, who told reporters he was trying to put the weapon on safety when he fired two rounds, was at Kandahar Airfield preparing to board a helicopter with chief of defence staff Gen. Walt Natynczyk at the time of the March 25 incident.

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http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=3070468

Fonzy
05-26-2010, 04:54
whoah..... when he fired TWO rounds?! how do you confuse your safety with independently pulling the trigger twice?!

JJ_BPK
05-26-2010, 05:08
whoah..... when he fired TWO rounds?! how do you confuse your safety with independently pulling the trigger twice?!

Some of the early Cx family had a 3rd burst mode, but I think that was eliminated on the C8. The Cx family are derivatives of the Colt AR family..

If he was fumbling around with the safety, he could have "limp wrist" a couple rounds..

:confused:

The Reaper
05-26-2010, 05:16
His story does not track with the physical controls of the weapon, and no rounds should have been chambered while still on the airfield.

The selector switch is manipulated with the thumb, the trigger with the index finger.

How would a guy who has been in the Army that long confuse the two?

TR

Pete
05-26-2010, 05:26
.....The selector switch is manipulated with the thumb, the trigger with the index finger.

How would a guy who has been int he Army that long confuse the two?

TR


Maybe he had his trigger finger on the trigger while he tried to flip the safty? First round going off caused him to jolt and fire the second one.

Well the good side of this is he didn't kill a private just standing there doing his job.

greenberetTFS
05-26-2010, 05:30
His story does not track with the physical controls of the weapon, and no rounds should have been chambered while still on the airfield.

The selector switch is manipulated with the thumb, the trigger with the index finger.

How would a guy who has been int he Army that long confuse the two?

TR

TR.

Officers!!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Utah Bob
05-26-2010, 07:33
Never let a Brigadier handle a rifle.:eek:

lksteve
05-26-2010, 07:34
How would a guy who has been int he Army that long confuse the two?Maybe he's been in the Army too long...

Pete
05-26-2010, 07:46
Maybe he's been in the Army too long...

a spear.

Buffalobob
05-26-2010, 08:09
In OSUT if your weapon fires into the sand barrel you are recycled back to the next class and start all over. Maybe they should have just sent him back to OSUT with all of the privates.

Richard
05-26-2010, 08:43
Lots of good jokes about Brigadiers in the British Army - most entail a grizzled Regimental Sergeant Major wittily putting them in their place. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

rdret1
05-26-2010, 13:42
Michael Yon's blog has been commenting on this for some time. From what he says, he was almost kicked out of country for questioning the official line when it happened.

JimP
05-26-2010, 14:39
It's damned hard to juggle your weapon, pull your shorts up and ask someone to hold your beer all at the same time. Have some sympathy guys.....

greenberetTFS
05-26-2010, 16:06
It's damned hard to juggle your weapon, pull your shorts up and ask someone to hold your beer all at the same time. Have some sympathy guys.....

JP,

LMAO,funny,very funny.........;)

Big Teddy :munchin

NousDefionsDoc
05-26-2010, 17:15
His story does not track with the physical controls of the weapon, and no rounds should have been chambered while still on the airfield.

The selector switch is manipulated with the thumb, the trigger with the index finger.

How would a guy who has been int he Army that long confuse the two?

TR

"Brig.-Gen."

Utah Bob
05-26-2010, 17:58
Wonder what his nickname is in the Officer's Mess?:D

MtnGoat
06-09-2010, 15:22
How would a guy who has been in the Army that long confuse the two?

TR

AMEN!!

blue02hd
06-09-2010, 15:45
Did they describe the shot group? Was it a key hole? Details man DETAILS!

Tuukka
06-10-2010, 00:17
Wonder what his nickname is in the Officer's Mess?:D

Eh, double tap?

mojaveman
06-10-2010, 00:56
Could it be that some people just have zero mechanical inclination?

Richard
06-10-2010, 06:00
Wonder what his nickname is in the Officer's Mess?

General Court Martial.

And so it goes...;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin