View Full Version : Advice on weapons slings needed
Endorphin Rush
08-02-2004, 22:49
Gentlemen...
I need your collective advice on weapons slings...specifically slings for a Colt M4.
I am currently using an issued Giles sling, however, have realized it's shortcomings over time. For one, it makes transitions to the weak side nearly impossible. And secondly, is a major pain in the *ss (ok, the neck...literally) when worn for any extended time.
I've considered the Chalker sling and am requesting your personal experiences, both positive and negative.
Two questions, specifically...once mounted, does it tend to allow the weapon to progressively ride down on the body when not supported in the firing position??? And are there any problems with the weapon coming detached from the sling inadvertently???
Any shared experiences will be appreciated...
Thanks
ER
Smokin Joe
08-03-2004, 07:23
I personally like the single point sling. Easy to down, and very simplistic.
Check this out, click on the link then click the 10 July 2004 update newsletter. It won't direct link.
http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/
Originally posted by Smokin Joe
I personally like the single point sling. Easy to down, and very simplistic.
Check this out, click on the link then click the 10 July 2004 update newsletter. It won't direct link.
http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/
SJ:
Do you know who owns that school?:munchin
Team Sergeant
08-03-2004, 08:02
Originally posted by Guy
SJ:
Do you know who owns that school?:munchin
??? Who?
Sacamuelas
08-03-2004, 08:07
Paul Howe
Team Sergeant
08-03-2004, 08:09
Never heard of him.
Sacamuelas
08-03-2004, 08:12
Brief Bio, TS ...
http://www.sfasu.edu/teaching/1999_home.htm#Howe
Found this searching his name: Came from the Sources list from Mark Bowden for his BlackHawk Down newspaper series.
"Sgt. First Class Paul Howe, the D-boy team leader who led the main ground force to the first crash site, received the Bronze Star with Valor Device. He is now a master sergeant and is still serving in the Army."CLICK for reference (http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/dec14/wherenow.asp)
One of the guys on the ground in Somalia, his name I believe is mentioned in in the book "Black Hawk Down".
Worked with him on a contract, pretty humble guy.
Sacamuelas
08-03-2004, 08:37
To get back on your topic, ER do a search on this site. I remember reading a slings thread by NDD a while ago. :cool:
I have used the Chalker sling for roughly 3 years on a Bushmaster M4A3 carbine, reserve 3 gun matches.
It gives good support when adjusted tight, if one had to go to a secondary weapon the sling will let the weapon hang directly in front if you do not have a weapons catch of some kind.
Used with a weapon that has been fired more, the hot barrel will come to contact with your legs.
It has not come off a single time inadvertently.
Had to put some 100mph tape on the shoulder pads since the rubber was starting to rip away slightly.
Endorphin Rush
08-04-2004, 13:39
Thanks guys, appreciate the info.
The info regarding Paul Howe was enlightening...the name sounded familiar, but I couldn't have told you who he was offhand. Certainly lends alot of credibility after having reviewed his website.
Sacamuelos...I will do that search, thank you!!!
Tuukka...good to hear your positive experience with the Chalker sling. I've always liked the concept behind the sling, but wanted to hear from someone with some real hands on experience before I put down the hard earned greenbacks. Also trying to avoid buying into a sling that could turn out to be a real-world disaster.
If there is anyone who has not posted on this subject in any of the previous threads, I would also appreciate the feedback.
Thanks, guys!!!!!!!!
Endorphin Rush
08-04-2004, 13:44
Sacamuelas...sorry for the spelling error.
My trigger finger is the only one that I've got trained to do any damn good. The rest just do whatever they damned well please.
http://www.cqbsolutions.com/slings.htm
have you looked at the CQB Solutions SOP sling?
Picture of the sling (http://www.cqbsolutions.com/car-15_sop_sm.jpg)
Gack:
That's the one I used, thanks for finding it.
rubberneck
08-05-2004, 16:48
If I am not mistaken Sgt Howe is married to Col Beckwith's daughter. Their kids are coming from one hell of a gene pool.
Originally posted by rubberneck
If I am not mistaken Sgt Howe is married to Col Beckwith's daughter. Their kids are coming from one hell of a gene pool.
cerebus the dog
08-06-2004, 10:42
There is a company in austin called Bull Tactical Outfitters that has developed a single point Bungee sling called "The Up-Link". It is a single bungee portion that has a universal attachment strap that will fit on just about everything (Molle, Tac vests, and LBE's) it has seperate harness that can be mounted to M-4's M-16 butsocks, MP-5's and shotguns. It allows the shooter to shoot weak arm around corners and allow for the shooter to defend himself using muzzle punching or other techniques. If you are in Texas and associtated with the TTPOA it will be featured in the next issue of Command Magazine. If you are interested give Lance a call at 512-377-2855.
Wes
Admins, If it is wrong to publish contact info for venders, sorry it will not happen again.
CQB Solutions SOP Sling. Did its job. Some complain that the QRB has broken, mine held up.
P
Team Sergeant
08-06-2004, 15:00
Originally posted by cerebus the dog
Admins, If it is wrong to publish contact info for venders, sorry it will not happen again.
If you do not own or work for that company then it is OK.
TS