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'South Park' Creators Could Face Retribution for Depicting Muhammad, Website Warns
By Joshua Rhett Miller
- FOXNews.com
A radical Islamic website
is warning the creators of "South Park" that they could face violent retribution for depicting the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode broadcast on Comedy Central last week.
RevolutionMuslim.com posted a warning following the 200th episode of Trey Parker and Matt Stone's "South Park," which included a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad disguised in a bear suit.
A radical Islamic website is warning the creators of "South Park" that they could face violent retribution for depicting the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode broadcast on Comedy Central last week.
RevolutionMuslim.com posted the warning following the 200th episode of Trey Parker and Matt Stone's "South Park," which included a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad disguised in a bear suit. The Web posting also included a graphic photo of Theo van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker who was murdered in 2004 after making a documentary on violence against Muslim women.
"We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show," the posting reads. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them."
Reaching by phone early Tuesday, Abu Talhah al Amrikee, the author of the post, said he wrote the entry to "raise awareness." He said the grisly photograph of van Gogh was meant to "explain the severity" of what Parker and Stone did by mocking Muhammad.
"It's not a threat, but it really is a likely outcome," al Amrikee said, referring to the possibility that Parker and Stone could be murdered for mocking Muhammad. "They're going to be basically on a list in the back of the minds of a large number of Muslims. It's just the reality."
Al Amrikee said the website is considering a protest against the "disgusting" show, which also depicted the Prophet Muhammad in an episode on July 4, 2001.
"This is not a small thing," he said. "We should do whatever we can to make sure it does not happen again."
The posting on RevolutionMuslim.com also includes audio of a sermon by Anwar al-Awlaki -- a radical U.S.-born preacher now believed to be hiding in Yemen -- who discusses assassinating individuals who defame the Prophet Muhammad. It also included a link to a 2009 story in the Huffington Post that gave details of Stone and Parker's mansion in Colorado.
I hope SPLC, ADL and DHS take notice.
Utah Bob
04-21-2010, 09:38
I watched that episode and said, "Oops. These guys have done it now".
Funny how they've never been threatened with death for the goofy stuff they do about Jesus.:munchin
IMHO, thats why they are doing it, to show the hypocrisy of television shows, who will mock all religions but Islam because they are afraid. It seems like they believe in equal mocking.
A few years ago when the (Danish?) cartoonist drew a picture of muhommad they had an episode where another cartoon was going to show a picture of muhommad and the entire country was afraid they were afraid terrorists were going to come and kill them. The townspeople thought they could just burry their heads in the ground and then the terrorists would be easy on them.
I'll be watching tonight to see if they actually show a depiction.;):munchin
Kyobanim
04-21-2010, 10:20
This joker's site is down. Guess they couldn't take the SP fans
neecheepure
04-21-2010, 10:22
I think I owe those boys a beer! It's good to know at least somebody is not willing to live in fear (and don't try to tell me they didn't know what they were getting into).
From the SP episodes I have watched in the past and the controversy over several of them, it seems to me this is the kind of thing these guys feed on. They will probably make more episodes featuring the prophet and of a more mocking nature.
DJ Urbanovsky
04-21-2010, 11:04
They must have struck a nerve. I say bravo.
This isn't the first time that Muhammad has appeared in a South Park episode.
Most people who have seen South Park understand two things:
1) They aren't afraid of anything. No topic is taboo, and nobody is safe from ridicule.
2) They address the topics they do in order to illustrate the ridiculousness and folly of human behavior. If there weren't truth in it, it wouldn't be so damn funny. That's one of the keys to good comedy.
BlackHills
04-21-2010, 11:05
The video from RevolutionMuslim can be found on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJkP6sRXFdg).
It's been a while since Achmed had his say around here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
I was surprised that a threat wasn't issued over these boys movie Team American World Police :D
I was surprised that a threat wasn't issued over these boys movie Team American World Police :D
Dirka Dirka Dirka
They knew better than to PO Team America.
ZonieDiver
04-21-2010, 14:06
I think I owe those boys a beer! It's good to know at least somebody is not willing to live in fear (and don't try to tell me they didn't know what they were getting into).
After watching this clip where they explain why they do it, and how they aren't going to "wuss out" like other MSM outlets, I'll join in paying for those beers. (Or standing a watch outside their CP.)
After watching this clip where they explain why they do it, and how they aren't going to "wuss out" like other MSM outlets, I'll join in paying for those beers. (Or standing a watch outside their CP.)
I would like to be involved in this as well. :lifter
In reality I hope this opens up more satire about Islam. Not because I am anti-islamic but because I am tired of feeling that we all have to kneel before the scary muslims and their prophet.
IMHO if you are going to profess a belief that defies science, morality, and rational thought you should be willing to take some criticism. But what do I know.
I watched that episode and said, "Oops. These guys have done it now".
Funny how they've never been threatened with death for the goofy stuff they do about Jesus.:munchin
Family Guy also. They will depict God, Jesus and president Bush in a mocking manner constantly. But it seems they are to scared to make fun of Muhammad or Obama. Hats off to the SP Guys. I hope they include the prophet even more now.
bandycpa
04-21-2010, 17:05
I love SP... :D
Me too. Even more so now.
Oh my God! They mocked Muhammad!
(You Bastards) :D
The video from RevolutionMuslim can be found on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJkP6sRXFdg).
So they are putting their hit list on you tube? Wonder why they disabled the comments button on that segment.
Apparently they found the home addresses of both of the creators and posted it. I don't have the source for that but it would interesting to find the individuals making those threats by posting their own addresses and telephones where they can be reached. Kind of offering an eye for an eye response.
After watching that disgusting display I feel like someone shit in my cereal bowl.
Do I really live in an America that is afraid?
Utah Bob
04-21-2010, 22:28
IMHO, thats why they are doing it, to show the hypocrisy of television shows, who will mock all religions but Islam because they are afraid. It seems like they believe in equal mocking.
A few years ago when the (Danish?) cartoonist drew a picture of muhommad they had an episode where another cartoon was going to show a picture of muhommad and the entire country was afraid they were afraid terrorists were going to come and kill them. The townspeople thought they could just burry their heads in the ground and then the terrorists would be easy on them.
I'll be watching tonight to see if they actually show a depiction.;):munchin
They didn't. It was hilarious anyway!:D
The fact that they have never actually shown a depiction of him and the zealots are so worked up makes it even funnier.
They didn't. It was hilarious anyway!:D
The fact that they have never actually shown a depiction of him and the zealots are so worked up makes it even funnier.
They did show a depiction of him in a 2001 episode called "super best friends"
and then the depiction of him ran in the opening credits that whole season. They just didn't look close enough.
I thought tonights episode was a major show of cowardice, that will be used for propaganda for the jihadists. They threatened the guys, and either they or the network caved, clearly.
I think that once things like threats of violence can influence everything even so much as a satirical cartoon, there is a major problem on our hands. This event just echo's a much larger problem IMHO.
Utah Bob
04-22-2010, 08:25
They did show a depiction of him in a 2001 episode called "super best friends"
and then the depiction of him ran in the opening credits that whole season. They just didn't look close enough.
I thought tonights episode was a major show of cowardice, that will be used for propaganda for the jihadists. They threatened the guys, and either they or the network caved, clearly.
I think that once things like threats of violence can influence everything even so much as a satirical cartoon, there is a major problem on our hands. This event just echo's a much larger problem IMHO.
I don't think they caved. I think the censoring was done intentionally for effect. It made the extremists look even sillier.
'Muhammad' now a dirty word on 'South Park'
http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/04/south-park-censorship-.html
".......Last night, "South Park" continued the controversial Muhammad storyline, but with a key difference: every instance of the words "Prophet Muhammad" was bleeped out, making the episode practically incomprehensible, especially to anybody who missed the previous week.
The character of Muhammad was once again also hidden from view, covered by a large block labeled "censored."
A Comedy Central spokesperson confirmed it was the network's decision to bleep the words................."
I don't think they caved. I think the censoring was done intentionally for effect. It made the extremists look even sillier.
They definately caved. If you watched last weeks episode the word Muhammed wasn't censored, and they clearly implied that they would be depicting him in this weeks episode (It was a two parter).
Yea, this isn't the first time comedy central censored SP. IIRC, the SP guys were getting ready to walk b/c of something cc censored awhile back. They make fun of everyone else, wonder why this is off limits?
I can't wait until they sneak him in an episode. They are going to make "him" look ridiculous.
Sacamuelas
04-22-2010, 13:14
I don't think they caved. I think the censoring was done intentionally for effect. It made the extremists look even sillier.
I have to disagree . The below statement indicates that the higher ups forced censorship. It wasn't done by the writers to lampoon the radicals.
A Comedy Central spokesperson confirmed it was the network's decision to bleep the words................."
they caved. Of course, TS didn't. WE have plenty of cartoons depicting the big M on this site in a less than flatterin situation. So far... Nobody has threatened this membership with violence. LOL
Utah Bob
04-22-2010, 13:40
I have to disagree . The below statement indicates that the higher ups forced censorship. It wasn't done by the writers to lampoon the radicals.
they caved. Of course, TS didn't. WE have plenty of cartoons depicting the big M on this site in a less than flatterin situation. So far... Nobody has threatened this membership with violence. LOL
Wonder why?:D
Utah Bob
04-22-2010, 13:42
'Muhammad' now a dirty word on 'South Park'
http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/04/south-park-censorship-.html
A Comedy Central spokesperson confirmed it was the network's decision to bleep the words................."
Really stupid. Why bother to air it at all then?
Chickenshits.
1stindoor
04-24-2010, 17:46
Found this on Fox
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/23/road-radicalism-man-south-park-threats/?test=latestnews
Green Light
04-24-2010, 18:16
It may not be enough for probable cause for a wire tap but they need to watch these guys. CAIR spends most of its time in "misdirection". If they poo-poo a group, that's a reason to be suspicious.
NoTime89
04-26-2010, 12:43
This popped up when I visited this e-card website.
Utah Bob
04-26-2010, 16:02
"He was definitely sort of weird," the classmate told FoxNews.com. "He was very into violent industrial music, borderline Satanic bands and stuff like that. He had dark undertones in his interests."
Big surprise.:rolleyes:
Two years later, Chesser is literally a changed man.
I might dispute that.
DJ Urbanovsky
04-26-2010, 19:31
I wonder, what precisely does a proclivity for a particular genre of music have to do with the price of tea in China?
Everybody looks for a scapegoat when people do stupid things, and one of the first places they seem to point their pitchforks is music.
People don't need music to make them behave like boneheads. I think they do a fine job of that all on their own.
OTEP and American Head Charge have never made me do anything stupid. They play violent industrial music. Ok, post-industrial.
I dunno, maybe I'm still bent out of shape over the PMRC and Tipper Gore trying to take away my Slayer and Two Live Crew back in the 80's.
Utah Bob
04-26-2010, 20:03
I wonder, what precisely does a proclivity for a particular genre of music have to do with the price of tea in China?
Everybody looks for a scapegoat when people do stupid things, and one of the first places they seem to point their pitchforks is music.
People don't need music to make them behave like boneheads. I think they do a fine job of that all on their own.
OTEP and American Head Charge have never made me do anything stupid. They play violent industrial music. Ok, post-industrial.
I dunno, maybe I'm still bent out of shape over the PMRC and Tipper Gore trying to take away my Slayer and Two Live Crew back in the 80's.
Tipper was hot!:D
ZonieDiver
04-26-2010, 21:53
Emphasis on "was"! :D
Dozer523
04-26-2010, 23:21
People don't need music to make them behave like boneheads. I think they do a fine job of that all on their own. If you want them to do stupid in rhythm ya do.
GratefulCitizen
04-27-2010, 16:02
Jawa Report's take on the issue:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/202182.php
Networks are scared of their own shadow...:rolleyes:
Utah Bob
04-27-2010, 16:05
Emphasis on "was"! :D
That's for sure!:eek:
DJ Urbanovsky
04-28-2010, 00:51
Now that's funny. :D
If you want them to do stupid in rhythm ya do.
This is what revolution Islam has to say about freedom of speech and the accusations that they have encouraged the killing of the south park creators.
http://cryptome.org/revmuslim.pdf
They definately think they are some special snowflakes. I especially like:
Before continuing it must be made clear that anyone who knows anything about Usool ul-
Fiqh (the fundamentals of jurisprudence) knows that ijma' (consensus) is a hujjah (proof) as the
Prophet, salaa Allahu 'alayhi wa salam, said, "My Ummah cannot have consensus on something
that is wrong." This means that the above opinions are the accepted opinions and these statements
are proof that this is the case.
Saying that it is in their religion that because a bunch of people believe something that means it has to be right. Thats dangerous, I guess they never read about the nazi's...although I guess its because the Nazi's weren't practictioners of Islam that allowed them to have the wrong ideas.
I also like how it is "Scholars" of Islam that encourage murder for insulting their prophet. And that they are not allowed to insult other deities, but by calling allah the one true god and saying Jesus was just a prophet doesn't that infact insult the deity of another religion?
Interesting how it is their duty to fulfill these commands like murder although they seem "no matter how strange that way of life
may seem to some."
I also like how they condemn America and our view of free speech, but at the same time it is our free speech that allows them to print this violent supporting trash. I don't think other countries who don't hold our values of free speech would be so forgiving. And as they talk about how their religion requires murder, Stone and Parker are, encouraging "islamaphobia."
They also need to read an economics book on how international trade actually ups the national economy of all the countries involved, especially under developed countries. It infact raises real wages of the workers in low skilled countries.
Finally, I find it laughable that they end by saying they are trying to encourage dialogue and understanding. And the next sentence is about how if you say something they don't like they will kill you.
Freedom of speech is cool as long as you don't piss them off, because then they are justified in killing you. I love islam
Fng
Freedom of speech is cool as long as you don't piss them off, because then they are justified in killing you. I love islam
Putting the fun back into fundamentalism :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyKdYTzMqWo
o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
o8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representative) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed
o8.7
(2) to intend to commit unbelief…
(3) to speak words that imply unbelief…
(4) to revile allah or his messenger…
(6) to be sarcastic about allah…
(15) to hold that any of allah’s messengers or prophets are liars…
(Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law)
http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Traveller-Classic-Islamic-Al-Salik/dp/0915957728/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272601131&sr=8-1
One of the hallmarks of a dangerous cult is a penalty for leaving.
Islam imposes the ultimate exit penalty - death.
Too bad Viacom capitulated :(
...although I guess its because the Nazi's weren't practictioners of Islam that allowed them to have the wrong ideas.
FWIW - some Nazis did practice Islam - the 13th Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS 'Handschar' (Kroatische) Nr. 1 was made up primarily of Croatian Muslims for use in the Balkans.
The reasons for the recruitment of Croatian Muslims by the SS were many-fold. For one, Himmler was fascinated by the Islamic faith, and thought Muslims to be fearless soldiers. For another, Himmler also subscribed to the propaganda theory that Croatians (and therefore the Croatian Muslims) were not, in fact, Slavic people, but actually of Aryan (Gothic) descent, and thereby acceptable to the racially "pure" SS. Finally, the Nazis were hoping to rally the World's 350 million Muslims to their side in the struggle against the British Empire. The creation of a Muslim - albeit European Muslim - Division was considered a stepping stone to this greater end.
History often brings forth strange offerings to the alter of our knowledge in our attempts to understand of it all.
And so it goes...
Richard's $.02 :munchin
FWIW - some Nazis did practice Islam - the 13th Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS 'Handschar' (Kroatische) Nr. 1 was made up primarily of Croatian Muslims for use in the Balkans.
The reasons for the recruitment of Croatian Muslims by the SS were many-fold. For one, Himmler was fascinated by the Islamic faith, and thought Muslims to be fearless soldiers. For another, Himmler also subscribed to the propaganda theory that Croatians (and therefore the Croatian Muslims) were not, in fact, Slavic people, but actually of Aryan (Gothic) descent, and thereby acceptable to the racially "pure" SS. Finally, the Nazis were hoping to rally the World's 350 million Muslims to their side in the struggle against the British Empire. The creation of a Muslim - albeit European Muslim - Division was considered a stepping stone to this greater end.
History often brings forth strange offerings to the alter of our knowledge in our attempts to understand of it all.
And so it goes...
Interesting perspective Sir…
General Alexander Loehr, a Luftwaffe commander, on record stated Hitler had told him that Islam was such a desirable creed the Fuehrer longed for it to become the official SS religion.
Some say Hitler’s ideology spread to the ME, however, I’m convinced it may have been the other way around.
Hitler had been reading al-Mashriqi’s work for sometime before they met in 1926.
If I had known that this was the very man who was to become Germany’s savior I would have fallen around Hitler’s neck, but on the occasion I was engaged in small talk and tried to find out what he understood about Germany’s weakness at the time. Professor [Weil, the host] said, introducing Hitler to me: “This is also a very important man, an activist from the Worker’s Party.” We shook hands and Hitler said, pointing to a book that was lying on the table: “I had a chance to read your al-Tazkirah.” Little did I understand at that time, what should have been clear to me when he said these words!
*
The astonishing similarities—or shall we say the unintentional similarity between two
great minds—between Hitler’s great book and the teachings of my Tazkirah and Isharat embolden me, because the fifteen years of “struggle” of the author {Hitler] of “My Struggle” [Mein Kampf] have now actually led his nation back to success. But only after leading his nation to the intended goal, has he disclosed his movement’s rules and obligations to the world; only after fifteen years has he made the means of success widely known. It is possible that he has arrived at those means and doctrines by trial and error, but it should be absolutely clear that Mashriqi [referring to himself in the third person] has identified those means and doctrines in al-Tazkirah a full nine years and in the Isharat a full three years before the success of the Nazi movement, simply by following the shining guidance of the Holy Koran.
~al-Mashriqi~
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/10/22/hitler-and-jihad-part-1/
Why would the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem have blueprints of Auschwitz :confused:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/auschwitz-blueprints/
And so it went...vultures of a feather flock together...
Richard
Very interesting, I did not know that.
I wonder if this shows up in Nazi propaganda from the period?
I wonder if this shows up in Nazi propaganda from the period?
Hajj Amin al-Husseini was motivated by the Qur’an & Hadith, while the motivation for Hitler’s Jew hatred was in part by the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBFBvceJvIU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26471
Hitler gave the Mufti a radio station, which al-Husseini used to preach Nazism and genocide in Arabic:
According to the Muslim religion, the defense of your life is a duty which can only be fulfilled by annihilating the Jews. This is your best opportunity to get rid of this dirty race, which has usurped your rights and brought misfortune and destruction on your countries. Kill the Jews, burn their property, destroy their stores, annihilate these base supporters of British imperialism. Your sole hope of salvation lies in annihilating the Jews before they annihilate you.
~Hajj Amin al-Husseini~
http://bigjournalism.com/pgeller/2010/02/07/the-mufti-of-jerusalem-architect-of-the-holocaust/
TOMAHAWK9521
04-30-2010, 19:29
Weren't the Nazis welcomed into the ME to counter the British influence in the region? The Brit influence was enabling women to go about uncovered and go to work and such. As in Germany, there were a slew of disenfranchised, unemployed men in the ME who were enraged beyond all get-out at the idea their beloved religion/culture was being corrupted by British influence. The Nazi influence went so far as to model the Ba'ath party after the Nazi party.
So then I wonder if you could you draw direct connection to modern day regimes in ME to original Nazi influence.
So then I wonder if you could you draw direct connection to modern day regimes in ME to original Nazi influence.Is history linear or do things just look that way when one takes a teleological look at the past?
Two Weeks After Censoring 'South Park,' Comedy Central Debuts Cartoon Jesus Show
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/05/06/two-weeks-after-censoring-south-park-comedy-central-debuts-cartoon-j#ixzz0nAvTCnbJ
The end sums it up pretty well
"......This is nothing revelatory -- the double standard has existed at least since the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published depictions of Mohammed, sparking worldwide protests. But Comedy Central's unveiling of "JC" a mere 15 days after a heavily censored "South Park" episode went on air serves to drive home just how absurd and offensive to the values of a free society this double standard is..........."
greenberetTFS
05-06-2010, 12:38
Two Weeks After Censoring 'South Park,' Comedy Central Debuts Cartoon Jesus Show
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/05/06/two-weeks-after-censoring-south-park-comedy-central-debuts-cartoon-j#ixzz0nAvTCnbJ
The end sums it up pretty well
"......This is nothing revelatory -- the double standard has existed at least since the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published depictions of Mohammed, sparking worldwide protests. But Comedy Central's unveiling of "JC" a mere 15 days after a heavily censored "South Park" episode went on air serves to drive home just how absurd and offensive to the values of a free society this double standard is..........."
Absolutely agree with Pete on this one ...........
Big Teddy :munchin
Absolutely agree with Pete on this one ...........
Big Teddy :munchin
agreed
bandycpa
05-06-2010, 14:13
The end sums it up pretty well
"......This is nothing revelatory -- the double standard has existed at least since the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published depictions of Mohammed, sparking worldwide protests. But Comedy Central's unveiling of "JC" a mere 15 days after a heavily censored "South Park" episode went on air serves to drive home just how absurd and offensive to the values of a free society this double standard is..........."
People tend to treat you the way you train them too.
Bandy
1stindoor
05-10-2010, 07:58
Latest news on the subject:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/05/07/islam-taboo-topic-tv-wake-south-park-threats-times-square-bomb-scare/
So it would be a bad idea to print shirts with a picture of the big M on them huh?
It is sad that terrorism is winning...:boohoo