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Bill Harsey
04-16-2010, 06:38
This has been news in Oregon for a few days now.

An Oregon school teacher, Jason Levin, has been plotting to crash the tea party movement, calling for planted operatives to do dirt and has a website dedicated to it.

It has been reported that he did not remove the source codes from his website and these may have been tracked back to his using Oregon public school property to build the website.

Here is the story:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/15/oregon-probes-teacher-determined-demolish-tea-party/

Just makes me proud to pay taxes in Oregon to support someone like this. :mad:

SF-TX
04-16-2010, 06:42
Perhaps it was a class assignment? Nah, no school teacher would stoop so low as to use kids for partisan gain.

Bill Harsey
04-16-2010, 06:44
And our Oregon school teacher, the anti-tea party activist Mr. Levin, has been put on leave.
story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i6z-jvV_nO2EMPxGArNaDAH8bWOgD9F3TB900

armymom1228
04-16-2010, 07:24
And our Oregon school teacher, the anti-tea party activist Mr. Levin, has been put on leave.
story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i6z-jvV_nO2EMPxGArNaDAH8bWOgD9F3TB900

It should be unpaid leave. His behavior, while it is legal and he is exercising his first amendment rights, is reprehensible. He has, per the now taken down website, avocated things that are improper. School teachers are role models, even though they forget that fact sometimes. He wishes, per his own words, to deny someone else thier right to peaceably protest, while exercising his own rights. At least he has been removed from the classroom. This is, at least, a small victory for the kids.

orion5
04-16-2010, 11:04
What spaceship delivered this guy? From his Myspace page:

"As a black lesbian trapped in the body of a straight white man, I am able to pass as a member of the establishment wile still maintaining my oneness with the spirit of the Earf Muvah. I’m currently being sued by my inner child for molestation...but trust me, the charges are baseless."

http://search.intelius.com/Jason-Levin-N3ecm1tm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2490291/posts


Congratulations to the Beaverton School District for this brilliant hire.

Green Light
04-16-2010, 11:42
I guess the job of teachers to teach children how to think and not what to think is a thing of the past. I still have two kids in school - the frau and I are watching what they're taught like hawks. We do a great deal of teaching at the dinner table and on family night - hopefully, that stuff will soak in. Seems to be so far.

dennisw
04-16-2010, 13:09
I guess the job of teachers to teach children how to think and not what to think is a thing of the past. I still have two kids in school - the frau and I are watching what they're taught like hawks. We do a great deal of teaching at the dinner table and on family night - hopefully, that stuff will soak in. Seems to be so far.

On a similar note, my son is college in Colorado. His English professor said if anyone uses patriot or patriotism in a paper, they will be flunked. The open environment for learning is so refreshing. :mad:

Green Light
04-16-2010, 14:31
The "open academic environment" is a lot of horse squeeze.

afchic
04-16-2010, 14:43
On a similar note, my son is college in Colorado. His English professor said if anyone uses patriot or patriotism in a paper, they will be flunked. The open environment for learning is so refreshing. :mad:

Must be at the People's Socialist Republic of Boulder

ZonieDiver
04-16-2010, 23:01
On a similar note, my son is college in Colorado. His English professor said if anyone uses patriot or patriotism in a paper, they will be flunked. The open environment for learning is so refreshing. :mad:

I know exactly what I'd do if told something like that by a professor. I'd write a wondrously worded paper filled with "patriot" and "patriotism", await my "F", and then be in the Dean's office the next day. (Geeze, I wonder if the ACLU would help me? :rolleyes:)

dennisw
04-16-2010, 23:57
Geeze, I wonder if the ACLU would help me? )

They probably would. Right after hell freezes over. :D

wch84
04-17-2010, 22:00
The "open academic environment" is a lot of horse squeeze.

It's an open academic environment alright...just as long as it's openly tilted towards the left. One of the benefits of being a science major is the lack of politics in class. However, this rule does not apply to the morning after an election.

Dozer523
04-17-2010, 22:03
The "open academic environment" is a lot of horse squeeze. I give up. What the hell is THAT?

Guy
04-18-2010, 03:27
I know exactly what I'd do if told something like that by a professor. I'd write a wondrously worded paper filled with "patriot" and "patriotism", await my "F", and then be in the Dean's office the next day. (Geeze, I wonder if the ACLU would help me? :rolleyes:)I would have "verbally" challenged the professor immediately and probably, kicked out of the course.:cool:

Stay safe.

armymom1228
04-18-2010, 10:08
Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
I know exactly what I'd do if told something like that by a professor. I'd write a wondrously worded paper filled with "patriot" and "patriotism", await my "F", and then be in the Dean's office the next day.

GUY:
I would have "verbally" challenged the professor immediately and probably, kicked out of the course.:cool:



Agreed. That, for me, would have been the tossing of the gauntlent. I probably would have done both.

My son, back in high school was given an assignment to (written this way) to "write a term paper on a god and a goddess". Notice NO particular religion or ethincity stated. So he wrote one on the Celtic Goddess Branwen and Welsh god Lugh.

Teacher threw a hissy fit and said they were "pagan". Son stated that pagan was a Latin word meaning 'a dweller of the country'. He then asked what she wanted him to write on. Teacher stated she meant a Greek or Roman god/goddess. Son asked, "why?" She said, "because they were civilized". Son asked, "define civilized?" I had to explain to the principal why my son was so impertinent. Thank goodness he is the Army's problem now.. :D:D

There are good teachers and then there are...................
AM

JumpinJoe1010
04-18-2010, 10:23
My son was given an assignment last year in Literature. He was to read the writings of the famous Malcom X. It was roughly 2-3 pages of his diatribe about the "blue eyed devils."

Needless to say, I wrote the principle about my misgivings of the assignment. The teacher then responded the following day preaching the virtues Malcom's writing expertise:rolleyes:, but if I chose, my son would be given another reading. Writings from Abraham Lincoln was given to my son to read.:)

To this day, I am astounded there was not uproar about this assignment.

HOLLiS
04-18-2010, 10:38
I think, depending on the student, a reading assignment like this is not all the bad. Also a full reading curriculum would be the important factor. Blind eyed followers come in all political spectrum and are equally duped. It is good to know the facts on why something was wrong or right.

Remember Malcom X was murdered for changing his opinions. The honorable Elijah Muhammad was anything but honorable. At that period of time, there was a serious race issue and yes, some were exploiting it for their own agenda.

Personally, I support the uncensored availability of books (Text only), exclusion would be age specific topics. I have no problems with censorship of other media sources, specially video with sound.

I read and reported on "Johnny Got his Gun" when I was 6th grade and it did not inhibit me from enlisting in the Marines. I can not say, "I did not have a idea what I was getting into." If I had to blame someone, it would be me.

The Reaper
04-18-2010, 10:38
My son was given an assignment last year in Literature. He was to read the writings of the famous Malcom X. It was roughly 2-3 pages of his diatribe about the "blue eyed devils."

Needless to say, I wrote the principle about my misgivings of the assignment. The teacher then responded the following day preaching the virtues Malcom's writing expertise:rolleyes:, but if I chose, my son would be given another reading. Writings from Abraham Lincoln was given to my son to read.:)

To this day, I am astounded there was not uproar about this assignment.

"By any means necessary" includes violent overthrow of the U.S. government and terrorist acts against civilians.

Here is a photo of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz.

How does that fit in with the school policy?

TR

JumpinJoe1010
04-18-2010, 11:06
"By any means necessary" includes violent overthrow of the U.S. government and terrorist acts against civilians.

Here is a photo of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz.

How does that fit in with the school policy?

TR

I doubt the teacher or the principle wanted to open that can of worms. As a matter of fact, I have never had a return to my query by any faculty or school administration so quickly regarding my concerns. :D

HOLLiS
04-18-2010, 11:34
Jumpin, what grade is your son in?

Depending on the grade, how it fitted into the curriculum would be question too.

I am trying to remember what I read in Middle school and high school. The civil rights issue was in full swing then.

JumpinJoe1010
04-18-2010, 12:30
Jumpin, what grade is your son in?

Depending on the grade, how it fitted into the curriculum would be question too.

I am trying to remember what I read in Middle school and high school. The civil rights issue was in full swing then.

Last year he was a freshman in High School. The class was american literature, with a twist apparently. The course work turned traditional afterwards, but at that point she was attempting to show "proper sentence structure and prose.":rolleyes: That was my point of contention. There are numerous american writers who are not speaking a hate filled message for young, unaware teens, who could have fit her intended goal.

HOLLiS
04-18-2010, 12:57
Malcom X was very illiterate when he went to prison. In prison he realize how important education was and educated himself. While his views where politically liberal his communication style was very conservative.

I would think the foundation in which a child is raise would have more to do with their direction they are going in their life than some book. I read Mein Kampf in middle school, but by then I had a good understanding of where it went. In grade school, I read The Black Book of Poland It was on the Holocaust.

Sometimes, how a person reacts to something tells another how important it is. Especially how parents respond. I read the Qur'an when I was a sophomore in high school and my basic view of it, has not changed.

If it was Howl by Alan Ginsberg, for a high school student, that may have been a little too much, depending on class and students.

JumpinJoe1010
04-18-2010, 14:00
Malcom X was very illiterate when he went to prison. In prison he realize how important education was and educated himself. While his views where politically liberal his communication style was very conservative.

I would think the foundation in which a child is raise would have more to do with their direction they are going in their life than some book. I read Mein Kampf in middle school, but by then I had a good understanding of where it went. In grade school, I read The Black Book of Poland It was on the Holocaust.

Sometimes, how a person reacts to something tells another how important it is. Especially how parents respond. I read the Qur'an when I was a sophomore in high school and my basic view of it, has not changed.

If it was Howl by Alan Ginsberg, for a high school student, that may have been a little too much, depending on class and students.


I might have appreciated some of the works you stated for myself. However, I did have a problem with the reading based upon his ideology for my children. I believe you can get much more milage from the standard authors versus a man that filled the pages with hate. Young impressionable minds that can not discern the difference is dangerous in my opinion. I raise my children well, though I can not speak for the other children in the class rooms.

HOLLiS
04-18-2010, 14:15
Thanks Jumpin, I agree with you and one reason why I think schools need to be controlled locally. My kids are responsible to me and I want their teachers to be responsible too. A good education is paramount in building a better future for themselves and their country.

Here, the problem is usually parents who just don't care, are not involved, and why they ever had kids, who knows. Our future stability lies in our kids (future leaders).