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Team Sergeant
04-11-2010, 12:32
US Army Special Forces had NOTHING to do with this screw-up.

Funny how Special Forces got the blame though.....

Team Sergeant




US Special Forces apologise for botched night raid
By Julius Cavendish in Khataba
Friday, 9 April 2010
The first time US Special Forces came to Haji Sharabuddin's house they killed five members of his family. Today, almost two months later, they came to apologise.


Flanked by dozens of Afghan soldiers Vice Admiral William McRaven, one of America's top Special Forces officers, spent an hour at the scene of a botched night raid in south-eastern Afghanistan that saw a Special Forces team gun down an Afghan police chief, a prosecutor and three women.

"I am the commander of the men who accidentally killed your loved ones," Adm McRaven told Haji Sharabuddin. "I came here today to send my condolences to you and to your family and to your friends. I also came today to ask your forgiveness for these terrible tragedies."

It was in the same room on the night of February 11th that 25 relatives had gathered to celebrate the birth of a newborn child when the Special Forces raid took place. Nato admitted responsibility for all five deaths for the first time on Sunday night, paving the way for yesterday's visit.

Arriving in a cavalcade of 4x4s and armoured vehicles, three Afghan soldiers pinned down a sheep and held a blade to its throat in a traditional Afghan gesture seeking clemency. Then an elder summoned them inside and Adm McRaven offered his condolences.

"Sir, I know that you are a good man and that your family are good people," he said. "We did not come here to do any harm. The American soldiers came here to protect the Afghan people not to hurt them. This was a terrible mistake."

Rising from among the dozens of soldiers and family members seated on the floor, Mr Sharabuddin said he knew that "foreign troops came to Afghanistan to help us, to protect us, to bring security" and were "not here to kill the civilians."

But, he said, justice would only be served when the Americans gave up the informant whose suspect intelligence had led the Special Forces squad to raid a house full of civilians and government officials.

"We want that spy who gave the false information to the Americans," Mr Sharabuddin said.

"I don't want the spy for myself, I want him to face justice or be handed over to the commander of the [Afghan army] corps."

Commander Abdullah, a member of the provincial council of elders, warned US forces not to "accept information too readily. Because the enemies of Afghanistan are always trying to trick them this way? During the 30 years of war in Afghanistan, everyone made some enemies, and everyone is trying to get their enemies killed like this."

The botched raid became a public relations nightmare for Nato after it rejected claims in The Times last month of a cover-up. It was forced to revise its version of events as evidence accumulated contradicting its initial statement.

Nato originally said that a joint force of Afghan and Nato troops had stumbled on the bodies of three women, bound and gagged, following a firefight with militants.On Sunday, as it finally accepted responsibility for all five deaths, Afghan investigators were reported to have said that the Special Forces troops may have tampered with evidence at the scene of the raid.

Family members claimed they saw the Special Forces team dig bullets out of the dead bodies. NATO is now looking into this possibility.

But spokesman Colonel Wayne Shanks said: "To date we have not seen any evidence of or have any indications of tampering with evidence or covering up." On the subject of conducting a night raid on the basis of faulty intelligence, he said: "I can't see them not looking at all of the aspects of this particular case."

Yesterday Nato paid the family compensation, which relatives said came to $30,000.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-special-forces-apologise-for-botched-night-raid-1939880.html

Green Light
04-11-2010, 13:47
Is he still commander of JSOC? That says a great deal.

The Reaper
04-11-2010, 15:45
Is he still commander of JSOC? That says a great deal.

Yes, he is, and these deaths were not caused by Special Forces.

Maybe LTG McChrystal needs to rein in some of the JSOC boys, rather than letting SF take the blame.

TR

Green Light
04-11-2010, 17:33
Years ago whenever a JSOC guy got arrested for whatever, there would be a blurb in the paper about an NCO from "HHC, 1st SOCOM", our higher headquarters at the time. A couple of years after that unit was stood down, the boys from the "red roof inn" were still being categorized from that same unit. Of course, everyone thought "Special Forces" rather than CAG. Everyone always had heartburn about that. That bunch has never taken the rap for any of its people when they do dirty deeds. This IMO is no different.

Don't get me wrong. Lot's of great guys there. But there's also been plenty of trouble that they won't take possession of and have pawned off on our name.

longrange1947
04-11-2010, 18:21
In a similar light I have seen three news accounts about how the Navy is looking to expanding their Special Forces.

I don't know, may have been JSOC, just not .... :munchin

Basenshukai
04-12-2010, 20:42
Yes, he is, and these deaths were not caused by Special Forces.

Maybe LTG McChrystal needs to rein in some of the JSOC boys, rather than letting SF take the blame.

TR

My colleague and I were just discussing this today. He found it confusing that the units involved were merely described as "Special Forces" and that this is rarely if ever corrected. I explained to him that, this, in my view, is no coincidence. Truly, if a very high level HVT is captured/killed soon, I am certain that the blanket term "Special Forces" will not be left uncorrected for too long if the other guys were the ones to prosecute the target.

Team Sergeant
04-12-2010, 21:32
My colleague and I were just discussing this today. He found it confusing that the units involved were merely described as "Special Forces" and that this is rarely if ever corrected. I explained to him that, this, in my view, is no coincidence. Truly, if a very high level HVT is captured/killed soon, I am certain that the blanket term "Special Forces" will not be left uncorrected for too long if the other guys were the ones to prosecute the target.

Hence the reason I enjoy pointing out the fact "US Army Special Forces" had nothing to do with the above mission or the killing of said civilians.

(I'd still like to know WTF is up with "digging the bullets out"?)

Stras
04-12-2010, 22:21
Hence the reason I enjoy pointing out the fact "US Army Special Forces" had nothing to do with the above mission or the killing of said civilians.

(I'd still like to know WTF is up with "digging the bullets out"?)

So you haven't been watching the metal prices? They're re-melting the old bullets to make new ones......:D

Richard
04-24-2010, 11:52
(I'd still like to know WTF is up with "digging the bullets out"?)

CSI-Bagram - look for it on a CBS station near you.

Richard