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akv
04-03-2010, 22:33
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit, amphetamines/sniffing glue? ":)

Seriously though, can this end well? What about passengers who are now depressed to hear the pilots are on Prozac? YGBSM.



Depressed Pilots Can Fly on Medication, FAA Decides

By SHIRLEY S. WANG And MELANIE TROTTMAN, WSJ ONLINE

The Federal Aviation Administration will let some pilots who take four popular antidepressants return to the skies, saying Friday that it is easing its long-standing ban on psychiatric medications.

The old policy stemmed in part from concerns over possible side effects of psychiatric drugs, including sedation. But newer medications have fewer side effects, and pilots' associations have pressured the agency to reconsider the ban.

FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said some pilots with depression likely weren't being treated or were doing so in secret out of fear of losing their jobs. "We need to change the culture and remove the stigma associated with depression," said Mr. Babbitt.

Starting Monday, the agency will consider granting waivers that will allow pilots to fly while taking Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa or Lexapro, as well as their generic equivalents.

Medical experts and mental-health organizations supported the move, noting that untreated depression itself has an impact on job performance. They cautioned that the FAA needed to monitor the changes and keep pilots' confidentiality in mind.

Another risk: If some pilots who come forward aren't granted waivers, the agency may inadvertently discourage others from doing so, said Ken Duckworth, a psychiatrist and medical director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, an advocacy organization.

The Air Line Pilots Association, the world's largest pilot union, backed the move. "This policy change should improve aviation safety and pilot health," it said in a statement.

The FAA says it can't estimate how many pilots might come forward but believes pilots' depression rate doesn't differ much from that of the general population, about 10%.

Antidepressants are the fourth biggest-selling class of drugs in the U.S., netting nearly $10 billion in sales in 2009. For the four antidepressants, nearly 75 million prescriptions were dispensed in the U.S. last year, according to IMS Health, which tracks prescription-drug sales.

The new policy doesn't mean pilots who want to begin taking one of the medications can get in the cockpit right away. Before being granted a waiver by a physician certified by the FAA, a pilot must be considered "satisfactorily treated" for 12 months; in the meantime, he or she will be grounded.

For pilots who have been secretly taking antidepressants, the FAA is offering a grace period. The agency said it wouldn't take action against such pilots if they come forward within six months. However, pilots with a recent case of depression or who want to begin a new medication regimen will be subject to the one-year waiting period, according to FAA spokeswoman Alison Duquette. "We're really looking for stability," she said.

Pilots must be examined by an aviation medical examiner every six months to one year to be recertified. They are required disclose what medications they are taking; lying on the form is considered a federal offense. The FAA says it doesn't track the number of pilots who have been grounded because they are taking psychiatric medications.

Psychiatrists said it usually takes three to six weeks for an antidepressant to begin taking effect, and doctors should have a good sense of how people are responding within three months. It takes an additional six months or so to get a sense of whether the depression will recur while on the medication.

The four medications that are allowed by the new policies are part of the so-called SSRI family. They work by preventing a brain chemical called serotonin from being reabsorbed by neurons. Their most common side effects are nausea and sexual dysfunction, said psychiatrists.

The FAA said it would consider allowing other psychiatric medicines in the future.

Psychiatrists say that it is far better to encourage pilots to get help than allow them to fly with untreated mental illness. "Untreated depression affects cognition probably more than any possible detrimental effect of any of these antidepressants," said P. Murali Doraiswamy, a professor of biological psychiatry at Duke University Medical Center.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052702304871704575159740692643072.html

ApacheIP
04-03-2010, 23:04
It has been ending well for quite sometime. You would probably be surprised at the number of pilots taking this type of medication that choose to keep it quiet in spite of the regs.

It's interesting they mention two of the more "powerful" anti depressants along side two of the more benign drugs. (I infer this by their reputation only)

Having no experience with any of these, other than my bride having taken both Lexapro and Celexa, I don't have a big issue with it, but I am more inclined to be against commercial pilots, in particular big iron pilots, taking anti depressants than private pilots.

Lanyard
04-04-2010, 09:47
If pilots were immune to depression I would agree with you. Pretending it doesn't exist in their ranks is asking for trouble.

As for Heavy vs. regular commercial pilots, the Heavy guys (with beaucoup hours) have fantastic planes with working autopilots, auto land and a bunch of other neat options. The ones to worry about are the greenhorns flying the Beech 19's with 4 dials on their board out of order, working an 80 hour week and flying into Aspen on IFR.

monsterhunter
04-04-2010, 09:56
In my profession, I run into all types of mental illness on a daily basis. Depression, in it's most common for, just seems to be someone having trouble with constant sadness. It doesn't seem very scary at all. The medication helps them to release the chemical in their brains that makes them feel normal, which is otherwise restricted. If they don't take their meds, they'll go around acting like Eeyore but nobody gets hurt.

The problem we run into in law enforcement is when those who have a degree of schizophrenia and/or a bi-polar disorder. They may be harmful to themselves or others if their meds are jacked up. I have heard of severe depression causing trouble, but don't think that's what the pilots are dealing with.

Just my .02, as I'm not a doctor, but have seen enough of this to not be worried about a pilot who I believe otherwise would just have a long face. Or perhaps the mile high club isn't kicking down to pilots like it used to.

Axe
04-04-2010, 10:39
X2 on ApacheIP.

In fact, the number of pilots believed by the FAA to be flying on antidepressants is large enough that the FAA is actually looking at implementing a reporting amnesty program similar to the tax amnesties for pilots to come forward and report their previous usage.


In addition to pilots taking the meds and not reporting, an anonymous survey of pilots actually facing this problem showed that 60% of pilots diagnosed with depression would not treat their depression rather than take treatment and be grounded.

I'll take a pilot who is being successfully treated for depression over one who is depressed and not getting treatment anytime.

For a pilot to fit in this proposed policy, he or she will need to meet very specific criteria:

1. Previous Mild to Moderate Depression;
2. Resolved for over a year with no symptoms remaining;
3. On a stable dose for over a year on one of only 4 meds;
4. No side effects present.

Paraphrasing the words of the Doc who made this program happen from an aviation forum, the presence of depression is still grounding, but the presence of an antidepressant in your system under a specific set of circumstances isn't.

Lanyard
04-04-2010, 10:53
Monsterhunter,
I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly, are you for or against meds for depression?

Everyone has their threshold of background noise, that once reached, their skills will start to deteriorate. Depression, chronic and otherwise, is a known adverse event, and everone wants to keep their personal life out of the cockpit, sugery room, etc. If a pilot lost his job, took another with a 40% pay cut, lost his life savings in the latest market crash and is upside down on his mortgage, he might need a little help to get him through. Up until this point if he went to get professional help and was given anti-depresant script he would fail his medical and lose his job.

Saturation
04-04-2010, 21:10
Monsterhunter,
I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly, are you for or against meds for depression?

Everyone has their threshold of background noise, that once reached, their skills will start to deteriorate. Depression, chronic and otherwise, is a known adverse event, and everone wants to keep their personal life out of the cockpit, sugery room, etc. If a pilot lost his job, took another with a 40% pay cut, lost his life savings in the latest market crash and is upside down on his mortgage, he might need a little help to get him through. Up until this point if he went to get professional help and was given anti-depresant script he would fail his medical and lose his job.

If memory serves correct, even seeing a mental health person begins the grounding of a pilot- meds or not. So I'm guessing these antidepressants are coming from GP's?

monsterhunter
04-04-2010, 21:12
Monsterhunter,
I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly, are you for or against meds for depression?

Everyone has their threshold of background noise, that once reached, their skills will start to deteriorate. Depression, chronic and otherwise, is a known adverse event, and everone wants to keep their personal life out of the cockpit, sugery room, etc. If a pilot lost his job, took another with a 40% pay cut, lost his life savings in the latest market crash and is upside down on his mortgage, he might need a little help to get him through. Up until this point if he went to get professional help and was given anti-depresant script he would fail his medical and lose his job.

To clarify: I don't care if pilots are taking meds for depression. Either way, it's not the type of mental illness that will cause them to be less safe or to fly their planes into the side of a mountain. If they take them, they will just be more content. If not, there will just be a few more sad pilots. Depression is not schizophrenia. If a pilot suffers from that, he needs to be grounded.

I have a close friend who flew Apaches in Desert Storm. He came home with a sliver star and a mild case of depression. He took meds for a little while and was good to go.