Everyone Agrees: USC Trojans Will Dominate Again

[Roguish Lawyer]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/07/30/bc.fbc.lgns.coachpoll.r/index.html?cnn=yes

Yeah, I shouldn't set myself up for a big fall like this. But I don't care. LOL

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/07/30/bc.fbc.lgns.coachpoll.r/index.html?cnn=yes

Yeah, I shouldn't set myself up for a big fall like this. But I don't care. LOL

No, wrong mascot.

The University of South Carolina mascot is the Gamecock.

GO COCKS!

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
No, wrong mascot.

The University of South Carolina mascot is the Gamecock.

GO COCKS!

TR

Oh, right. Where does that team appear in this poll?

Team Record Points Prev
1. USC (44) 12-1 1,500 2
2. OKLAHOMA (12) 12-2 1,426 3
3. LSU (5) 13-1 1,387 1
4. GEORGIA 11-3 1,328 6
5. MIAMI FLA 11-2 1,246 5
6. FLORIDA ST 10-3 1,177 10
7. MICHIGAN 10-3 1,128 7
8. TEXAS 10-3 1,087 11
9. OHIO ST 11-2 1,030 4
10. FLORIDA 8-5 691 25
11. WEST VIRGINIA 8-5 684 --
12. IOWA 10-3 642 8
13. KANSAS ST 11-4 639 13
14. TENNESSEE 10-3 598 16
15. CALIFORNIA 8-6 566 --
16. CLEMSON 9-4 503 22
17. MISSOURI 8-5 502 --
18. AUBURN 8-5 473 --
19. VIRGINIA 8-5 453 --
20. MARYLAND 10-3 443 20
21. UTAH 10-2 438 21
22. WISCONSIN 7-6 248 --
23. (tie) MINNESOTA 10-3 187 17
23. (tie) PURDUE 9-4 187 19
25. OREGON 8-5 175 --

Others Receiving Votes:
NEBRASKA 151, OREGON ST 101, BOISE ST 99, WASHINGTON ST 86, NO CAROLINA ST 84, LOUISVILLE 78, VIRGINIA TECH 62, TCU 50, OKLAHOMA ST 41, TOLEDO 33, MEMPHIS 27, GEORGIA TECH 25, NOTRE DAME 25, BOWLING GREEN 22, BYU 21, MIAMI OHIO 21, FRESNO ST 17, MICHIGAN ST 16, PITTSBURGH 14, MARSHALL 13, ALABAMA 12, ARKANSAS 12, BOSTON COLLEGE 10, NORTHERN ILL 10, SAN DIEGO ST 8, COLORADO ST 7, UCLA 7, MISSISSIPPI 7, TEXAS TECH 6, HAWAII 5, TEXAS A&M 5, SOUTHERN MISS 4, PENN ST 2, AIR FORCE 1, ARIZONA ST 1, ARIZONA 1, CONNECTICUT 1, NEW MEXICO 1, WASHINGTON 1

[The Reaper]

What is that number in parentheses, the number that are expected to be killed or incarcerated before the season ends?

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

South Carolina 2003 Schedule/Results

Date Opponent Result Record

August 30 La Lafayette W 14-7 1-0 (0-0)
September 6 Virginia W 31-7 2-0 (0-0)
September 13 at No. 11 Georgia L 31-7 2-1 (0-1)
September 20 UAB W 42-10 3-1 (0-1)
September 27 at No. 7 Tennessee L 23-20 3-2 (0-2)
October 9 Kentucky W 27-21 4-2 (1-2)
October 18 No. 2 LSU L 33-7 4-3 (1-2)
October 25 Vanderbilt W 35-24 5-3 (2-2)
November 1 at No. 18 Mississippi L 43-40 5-4 (2-2)
November 6 at Arkansas L 28-6 5-5 (2-2)
November 15 No. 17 Florida L 24-22 5-6 (2-3)
November 22 Clemson L 63-17 5-7 (2-3)

Ooooooh, those must have hurt. But hey, you only lost by a narrow margin against Florida and Tennessee. In those games, the Cocks gave it the good 'ol college try! Winning isn't everything, right? LMAO

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
What is that number in parentheses, the number that are expected to be killed or incarcerated before the season ends?

TR

Hey Guy:

How long do you think a few randomly selected Gamecocks would last in South Central?

:munchin

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Ooooooh, those must have hurt. But hey, you only lost by a narrow margin against Florida and Tennessee. In those games, the Cocks gave it the good 'ol college try! Winning isn't everything, right? LMAO

You who lost?

Do you play for either USC?

TR

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Hey Guy:

How long do you think a few randomly selected Gamecocks would last in South Central?

:munchin

Longer than a yuppie Kali lawyer in Spartanburg.

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
You who lost?

Do you play for either USC?

TR

Oh, I see. Now you don't care? What happened to "GO COCKS!"? LOL

BTW, I did not receive a wire today, and I have out of town business from Monday through Wednesday, so it looks like there will be no video until mid-week unless I get a Saturday delivery.

[Guy]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Hey Guy:

How long do you think a few randomly selected Gamecocks would last in South Central?

:munchin

I had to go downtown Oakland and found myself reaching for a...ummm. :o Which I didn't have, had to settle for the Casper (CRKT).

I pretty much stay out of those "neck of the woods".

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Longer than a yuppie Kali lawyer in Spartanburg.

TR

Oh fine, make it personal why don't you? LOL

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer


BTW, I did not receive a wire today, and I have out of town business from Monday through Wednesday, so it looks like there will be no video until mid-week unless I get a Saturday delivery.

You're going to be sending it back before you ever get it set up!

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Oh, I see. Now you don't care? What happened to "GO COCKS!"? LOL

BTW, I did not receive a wire today, and I have out of town business from Monday through Wednesday, so it looks like there will be no video until mid-week unless I get a Saturday delivery.

I did not play for, nor attend, USC.

Just taking pot shots at uppity Kali lawyers.

More commo excuses? If you were on my team, you might not make commo, but you would be the strongest 18E in the Group.

TR

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Oh fine, make it personal why don't you? LOL

Okay, I expect that USC football players in Compton would last longer than a middle-aged attorney with a "Go Bush" shirt on, but you might run faster than they could given their record.

TR

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by The Reaper

More commo excuses? If you were on my team, you might not make commo, but you would be the strongest 18E in the Group.

TR

When I was an 18E we didn't make excuses, just commo. (He's a cherry civilian, what you expect?)

TS

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by Team Sergeant
You're going to be sending it back before you ever get it set up!

Just spoke with Q, and he has not sent the wire yet. But he agreed to let me keep the camera for another month, so we won't run out of time. :cool:

[SP5IC]

The three best things about Columbia, SC are...number 3, the zoo, number 2, the Lizard Thicket tied with Maurice's Piggy Palace, and number 1...Hootey & the Blowfish. I kinda like the Yankee artillery strikes on the west wall of the state capitol as well. Columbia, SC rocks.

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Team Sergeant
When I was an 18E we didn't make excuses, just commo. (He's a cherry civilian, what you expect?)

TS

Uhh, we don't have the right cable, we can't make commo. We will have to wait till someone sends us one.

Hmm, wonder what the bursting radius of one very pissed off team would be?

TR

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Hmm, wonder what the bursting radius of one very pissed off team would be?



Global

[mffjm8509]

Originally posted by The Reaper
What is that number in parentheses, the number that are expected to be killed or incarcerated before the season ends?

TR

Couldnt be, if so both Miami and Fla St would be at the top of the poll.....

mp

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by mffjm8509
Couldnt be, if so both Miami and Fla St would be at the top of the poll.....

mp

I was thinking the exact same thing, plus Nebraska, but passed.

Thanks for tossing that one back out and providing covering fire for the Team Lawyer.

TR

[ghuinness]

Couldn't resist....the REAL #1 team - Go Tigers !

[brownapple]

Isn't there anybody on here who knows anything about college football?

If it isn't Big Ten, it just ain't.

Go Blue.

[Roycroft201]

Excuse me, Gentlemen...... GO TERPS !

[Sigi]

Originally posted by Greenhat

If it isn't Big Ten, it just ain't.
Go Blue.
What do you do when a Michigan graduate knocks on your door? Pay him for the pizza.

Go Buckeyes!

And I know RL put that score up for a reason. I was at that game, too.

Go IRISH!

[Rotor Strike]

Originally posted by mffjm8509
Couldnt be, if so both Miami and Fla St would be at the top of the poll.....

mp

Damn right! Even Miami's recuits get arrested. Of course, Miami will give them a full ride scholarship as soon as they are paroled. Free Shoes University isn't any better. When I visited there to check out the school. There was a gun battle between one of the FSU dorms and a FAMU dorm. Made the decision easy for me. GO GATORS!!!!

[GracieLou]

Ahhhh, can't wait for the season to start....

GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!

[brownapple]

Originally posted by Sigi
What do you do when a Michigan graduate knocks on your door? Pay him for the pizza.

Go Buckeyes!

And I know RL put that score up for a reason. I was at that game, too.

Go IRISH!

What do you do when an Ohio State graduate knocks on your door? Pay him for mowing the lawn.

What do you do when a Notre Dame graduate knocks on your door? Nothing, they aren't smart enough to knock on the door.

Have to wonder about the fierceness of a nut. However, to give the Buckeyes credit, they play in the toughest division in NCAA football and play well every year. As for the "Fightin' Irish", I believe their biggest fight is with the NCAA as they figure out how to get the easiest possible schedule each year.

[QRQ 30]

I thought it was the USC Gamecocks.:D Actually being from Bakersfield, CA I had a time realizing there was more than one USC around. I have the distinction of having Frank Howard's footprints on my chest from high school.:D

[Ghostrider]

Originally posted by The Reaper
What is that number in parentheses, the number that are expected to be killed or incarcerated before the season ends?

TR

It means the number of 1st place votes each team got......

GO BADGERS!:D

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

Originally posted by The Reaper
What is that number in parentheses, the number that are expected to be killed or incarcerated before the season ends?

TR

It is the ratio of neck size to SAT score.

Jack Moroney

[Sigi]

Originally posted by Greenhat
As for the "Fightin' Irish", I believe their biggest fight is with the NCAA as they figure out how to get the easiest possible schedule each year.
LMAO. I would say they probably play one of the harder schedules out there, regularly scheduling Michigan, Michigan State, Florida State, Miami, USC, Florida, and Tennessee.

They play Navy every year, and sometimes Army the same year, but USC and Michigan are there every year, too. And doesn't Michigan play Illinois, Indiana and Northwestern every year. :lifter

Some pretty tough opponents this year:
Sat 09/04/2004 BYU @ Provo,
Sat 09/11/2004 Michigan @ Notre Dame,
Sat 09/18/2004 Michigan State @ East Lansing
Sat 09/25/2004 Washington @ Notre Dame
Sat 10/02/2004 Purdue @ Notre Dame
Sat 10/09/2004 Stanford @ Notre Dame
Sat 10/16/2004 Navy @ East Rutherford
Sat 10/23/2004 Boston College @ Notre Dame
Sat 11/06/2004 Tennessee @ Knoxville
Sat 11/13/2004 Pittsburgh @ Notre Dame
Sat 11/27/2004 USC @ Los Angeles

But we all know the greatest rivalry is Michigan vs. Ohio State. When a reporter asked Woody Hayes why he went for two against Michigan when they were up by twenty late in the game, he replied "because I couldn't go for three." LOL.

I'll have to remember who the Michigan fans are when it comes down to that game. Plus Michigan is in South Bend this year. We'll have to keep this thread going.

[Sigi]

GO IRISH!

ND 28 Michigan 20.

:lifter

[Roguish Lawyer]

GO IRISH!

ND 28 Michigan 20.

:lifter

Excellent. Helps our strength of schedule. ;)

[Sigi]

You should give me some points for the ND game this year. Loser pays the SOWF. It's the least you can do for sticking that scoreboard in my face - again! LOL.

Real difficult being a Trojan fan this year. :)

[Roguish Lawyer]

You should give me some points for the ND game this year. Loser pays the SOWF. It's the least you can do for sticking that scoreboard in my face - again! LOL.

Real difficult being a Trojan fan this year. :)

I'll go with whatever the spread is. Pick a newspaper spread source, and that source will determine the spread. How much do you want to bet?

[Sigi]

At least $50.

I was hoping for an extra point or two, but the more I think about it, the less I want your charity. USC and ND have long roads before they play. We have other big games to think about.

I'll take the spread when it comes out.

[Roguish Lawyer]

At least $50.

I was hoping for an extra point or two, but the more I think about it, the less I want your charity. USC and ND have long roads before they play. We have other big games to think about.

I'll take the spread when it comes out.

Big spender!

OK, $50. All proceeds to SOWF.

[Sigi]

Big spender!

OK, $50. All proceeds to SOWF.
Easy bro. I am unemployed. Maybe to make it interesting you should put up $150 to my $50. After all you have the home field advantage.

:munchin

[Roguish Lawyer]

Easy bro. I am unemployed. Maybe to make it interesting you should put up $150 to my $50. After all you have the home field advantage.

:munchin

You said minimum $50, not me. Why such a large number if you are unemployed? Why don't we make it $5 or $10?

Better yet, how about the loser has to use a winning-team-related avatar selected by the winner (e.g., you could make me use your current one or something like it if the Irish win and vice versa) for a week.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Hmmm, seems like a good time to update this thread. Trojans are 9-0, still #1.

Sigi, are we betting or not? :munchin

[Achilles]

Texas!!! Vince learned how to pass miraculously and came back from 35-7 to tie the game in 12 minutes! Then 3 more unanswered touchdowns. He rushed 123 yards in 12 carries, 18/21 for 278 yards. If he performed like this vs OU we would be #1 and not the stupid trojans!

[Roguish Lawyer]

Texas!!! Vince learned how to pass miraculously and came back from 35-7 to tie the game in 12 minutes! Then 3 more unanswered touchdowns. He rushed 123 yards in 12 carries, 18/21 for 278 yards. If he performed like this vs OU we would be #1 and not the stupid trojans!

"If" :p :lifter

[QRQ 30]

I became a fan of So. Cal. long before most of you were born. I played against Frank Gifford when he played HS ball for East Bakersfiel H.S.

However there is another USC (So. Carolina) worth noting if for no other reason than their coach Lou Holz. In the past two weeks Miami has lost to USC and Clemson. This should give some respect to the ACC as more than a Basketball conference. I don't know if Miami has been over rated or the ACC under rated -- perhaps both. :lifter

[The Reaper]

I became a fan of So. Cal. long before most of you were born. I played against Frank Gifford when he played HS ball for East Bakersfiel H.S.

However there is another USC (So. Carolina) worth noting if for no other reason than their coach Lou Holz. In the past two weeks Miami has lost to USC and Clemson. This should give some respect to the ACC as more than a Basketball conference. I don't know if Miami has been over rated or the ACC under rated -- perhaps both. :lifter

Actually, I think that was UNC and Clemson that Miami lost to.

The Gamecocks left the ACC many years ago. I do like Lou Holtz, though.

TR

[QRQ 30]

You are so correct TR. USC and Clemson have identical records so far this year. Clemson needs one more win for a bowl bid and it is a pretty well sure thing since they play Duke this week. I am sure that Duke has won a game or two over the years but have been insignificant since Spurier moved on. The USC V Clemson game should be a good one this year.

[Achilles]

"If" :p :lifter

Poop on Stoops!!

[AngryPistols]

Poop on Stoops!!

FIGHT!!!!

[AngryPistols]

Texas!!!!

[Sigi]

Hmmm, seems like a good time to update this thread. Trojans are 9-0, still #1.

Sigi, are we betting or not? :munchin
I missed this. Heck yeah we're still on, although my Irish lost another game in the waning moments. Back to back heartbreaking losses. :boohoo

[Sigi]

Just thought I'd throw this out there.

http://und.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111704aaa.html

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - A recent survey by The Harris Poll® of a nationwide cross section of adults has confirmed what one survey earlier this year by ESPN -- The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame are the most popular college football team in the nation among adults in the United States.

The 2004 survey, released Nov. 12, continues a long-standing trend. Notre has been America's favorite college football team every year since The Harris Poll® first started asking this question in 1997 (with the exception of 2000 and 2001 as Harris Interactive® did not poll on this topic during these years). They are followed by Ohio State, which for the first time unseats Florida State for the number two spot, while Florida State, which has been second for the past seven years, drops precipitously out of the top 10.





My Irish and Buckeyes 1 and 2.

First the Buckeyes take care of Michigan, and then the Irish upset the Trojans next week.

:lifter

[The Reaper]

That would be the same Harris that predicted a Kerry victory?

TR

[Sigi]

That would be the same Harris that predicted a Kerry victory?

TR
Yes Sir, but it has also been verified by a similar ESPN poll. :D

2004 Rank
1. Notre Dame
2. Ohio State
3. Michigan
4. Texas
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. USC
8. Wisconsin
9. Tennessee
10. Maryland

No Florida teams in the top ten. South Bend on top again!

[Goggles Pizano]

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - A recent survey by The Harris Poll® of a nationwide cross section of adults has confirmed what one survey earlier this year by ESPN -- The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame are the most popular college football team in the nation among adults in the United States.


I don't buy that poll for a second. The Nittany Lions, while having very little to cheer about the last four years :boohoo , are more popular nationally than three of those four teams who tend to be regional (Texas, Michigan, OSU). I'll give you the Irish's popularity though Sigi there is no way to top them nationwide. GH is also correct the Big Ten is the toughest conference (followed closely by the SEC).

"Joe must go" on his own terms-the school and the community owe him that.


preparing for incoming.... :D

[Roguish Lawyer]

I missed this. Heck yeah we're still on, although my Irish lost another game in the waning moments. Back to back heartbreaking losses. :boohoo

On for what? The avatar thing?

[brownapple]

Just because Notre Dame is popular doesn't make them good.

And it seems their record backs that up: 6-4

Bowling Green State University at 8-2 has a better record. Navy has a better record. Louisville, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, West Virginia, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Florida State, Miami (Fl), Virginia, Miami (Oh), Northern Illinois, Toledo, Utah, USC, California, Arizona State, Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, North Texas, Boise State and UTEP all have better records.

Notre Dame (25 appearances - 13 wins, 1 - 6 in the last ten years)
BOWL YEAR OPPONENT RESULT
Gator 2003 NC State L 28 - 6
Fiesta 2001 Oregon State L 41-9
Gator 1999 Georgia Tech L 35-28
Independence 1997 LSU L 27-9
Orange 1996 Florida State L 31-26
Fiesta 1995 Colorado L 41-24
Cotton 1994 Texas A&M W 24-21
Cotton 1993 Texas A&M W 28-3
Sugar 1992 Florida W 39-28
Orange 1991 Colorado L 10-9
Orange 1990 Colorado W 21-6
Fiesta 1989 West Virginia W 34-21
Cotton 1988 Texas A&M L 35-10
Aloha 1984 SMU L 27-20
Liberty 1983 Boston College W 19-18
Sugar 1981 Georgia L 17-10
Cotton 1979 Houston W 35-34
Cotton 1978 Texas W 38-10
Gator 1976 Penn State W 20-9
Orange 1975 Alabama W 13-11
Sugar 1973 Alabama W 24-23
Orange 1973 Nebraska L 40-6
Cotton 1971 Texas W 24-11
Cotton 1970 Texas L 21-17
Rose 1925 Stanford W 27-10

Compared to Michigan (35 appearances - 18 wins, 6 - 4 in last ten years)
Bowl Season Opponent Result
Rose 2003 USC L 28-14
Outback 2002 Florida W 38 - 30
Citrus 2001 Tennessee L 45 - 17
Citrus 2000 Auburn W 31 - 28
Orange 1999 Alabama W 35 - 34 (OT)
Citrus 1998 Arkansas W 45 - 31
Rose 1997 Washington W 21 - 16
Outback 1996 Alabama L 17 - 14
Alamo 1995 Texas A&M L 22 - 20
Holiday 1994 Colorado State W 24 - 14
Hall of Fame 1993 North Carolina State W 42 - 7
Rose 1992 Washington W 38 - 31
Rose 1991 Washington L 34 - 14
Gator 1990 Mississippi W 35 - 3
Rose 1989 Southern Cal L 17 - 10
Rose 1988 Southern Cal W 22 - 14
Hall of Fame 1987 Alabama W 28 - 24
Rose 1986 Arizona State L 22 - 15
Fiesta 1985 Nebraska W 27 - 23
Holiday 1984 Brigham Young L 24 - 17
Sugar 1983 Auburn L 9 - 7
Rose 1982 UCLA L 24 - 14
Bluebonnet 1981 UCLA W 33 - 14
Rose 1980 Washington W 23 - 6
Gator 1979 North Carolina L 17 - 15
Rose 1978 Southern Cal L 17 - 10
Rose 1977 Washington L 27 - 20
Rose 1976 Southern Cal L 14- 6
Orange 1975 Oklahoma L 14 - 6
Rose 1971 Stanford L 13 - 12
Rose1969 Southern Cal L 10 - 3
Rose 1964 Oregon State W 34 - 7
Rose 1950 California W 14 - 6
Rose 1947 Southern Cal W 49 - 0
Rose 1901 Stanford W 49 - 0

And this year, Michigan is going to the Rose bowl. Where is Notre Dame going?

(corrected with addition that TR pointed out)

[The Reaper]

Just because Notre Dame is popular doesn't make them good.

And this year, Michigan is going to the Rose bowl. Where is Notre Dame going?

You left out their 2002 collapse in the Gator Bowl against mighty NC State. No. 17 North Carolina State dug deep into its playbook of tricks to pull off a 28-6 shocker over 12th-ranked Notre Dame.

Make that 1-6 in bowls for the past 10 years.

Sorry, Sigi!

TR

[Goggles Pizano]

Compared to PSU:

(37 appearances 25-12-2)

Rose Jan. 1, 1923 Southern Cal 14, Penn State 3
Cotton Jan. 1, 1948 Penn State 13, Southern Methodist 13
Liberty Dec. 19, 1959 Penn State 7, Alabama 0
Liberty Dec. 17, 1960 Penn State 41, Oregon 12
Gator Dec. 30, 1961 Penn State 30, Georgia Tech 15
Gator Dec. 29, 1962 Florida 17, Penn State 7
Gator Dec. 30, 1967 Penn State 17, Florida State 17
Orange Jan. 1, 1969 Penn State 15, Kansas 14
Orange Jan. 1, 1970 Penn State 10, Missouri 3
Cotton Jan. 1, 1972 Penn State 30, Texas 6
Sugar Dec. 31, 1972 Oklahoma 14, Penn State 0
Orange Jan. 1, 1974 Penn State 16, Louisiana State 9
Cotton Jan. 1, 1975 Penn State 41, Baylor 20
Sugar Dec. 31, 1975 Alabama 13, Penn State 6
Gator Dec. 27, 1976 Notre Dame 20, Penn State 9
Fiesta Dec. 25, 1977 Penn State 42, Arizona State 30
Sugar Jan. 1, 1979 Alabama 14, Penn State 7
Liberty Dec. 22, 1979 Penn State 9, Tulane 6
Fiesta Dec. 26, 1980 Penn State 31, Ohio State
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1982 Penn State 26, Southern Cal 10
Sugar Jan. 1, 1983 Penn State 27, Georgia 23
Aloha Dec. 26, 1983 Penn State 13, Washington 10
Orange Jan. 1, 1986 Oklahoma 25, Penn State 10
Fiesta Jan. 2, 1987 Penn State 14, Miami (Fla.) 10
Citrus Jan. 1, 1988 Clemson 35, Penn State 10
Holiday Dec. 29, 1989 Penn State 50, Brigham Young 39
Blockbuster Dec. 28, 1990 Florida State 24, Penn State 17
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1992 Penn State 42, Tennessee 17
Blockbuster Jan. 1, 1993 Stanford 24, Penn State 3
Citrus Jan. 1, 1994 Penn State 31, Tennessee 13
Rose Jan. 2, 1995 Penn State 38, Oregon 20
Outback Jan. 1, 1996 Penn State 43, Auburn 14
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1997 Penn State 38, Texas 15
Citrus Jan. 1, 1998 Florida 21, Penn State 6 Team
Outback Jan. 1, 1999 Penn State 26, Kentucky 14
Alamo Dec. 28, 2000 Penn State 24, Texas A&M 0
Capitol One Jan. 1, 2002 Auburn 13, Penn State 9

Yeah I know we're going nowhere this year Sir, but I have to scratch out some sunlight in all this gloom! :(

[brownapple]

Penn State is historically a great team, Googles. I was at the Fiesta Bowl in 1987 in which they beat Miami. Miami swaggered in. They slunk out.

[Goggles Pizano]

Unfortunately Sir your boys seem to have our number. Wish I could have attended that one (miami 87). Enjoyed the yolk dripping from Testeverde's face after interception number 5! :D

[Sigi]

Just because Notre Dame is popular doesn't make them good.


And this year, Michigan is going to the Rose bowl. Where is Notre Dame going?

(corrected with addition that TR pointed out)
I was in college last time ND won a bowl game and that was ten years ago. I chalk it up to poor coaching and worse defense. Our defense has not played well at all over that span of Bowl Games, and this year is about as sloppy as they have been in awhile.

But I love the Irish, win or lose. Probably like you love Michigan, even though they got spanked by the Ted Ginn Jr./Troy Smith show yesterday. ;)

RL,
The avatar thing is a little unfair since you post much more than I do. Although I would absolutely love to see you don the ND Avatar, I am in for $25 to the SOWF.

[Roguish Lawyer]

RL,
The avatar thing is a little unfair since you post much more than I do. Although I would absolutely love to see you don the ND Avatar, I am in for $25 to the SOWF.

OK, done.

[The Reaper]

OK, done.

Help the Hillary '08 campaign!!

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Help the Hillary '08 campaign!!

TR

We aren't boycotting SOWF because of that, are we? :munchin

[The Reaper]

We aren't boycotting SOWF because of that, are we? :munchin


Let your conscience be your guide.

They have seen their last donation from me.

TR

[brownapple]

Let your conscience be your guide.

They have seen their last donation from me.

TR

Same here.

[Sigi]

Any suggestions, Sir's?

[Roguish Lawyer]

As much as I respect and admire TR and Greenhat, let's keep the bet. It's a good cause and I'm not going to spite the survivors of brave warriors just because the organization did something colossally stupid.

[Sigi]

As much as I respect and admire TR and Greenhat, let's keep the bet. It's a good cause and I'm not going to spite the survivors of brave warriors just because the organization did something colossally stupid.
Concur.

20 points sound like a good spread to you?

[brownapple]

Any suggestions, Sir's?


Special Forces Association

Special Operations Association

[Roguish Lawyer]

I'll go with whatever the spread is. Pick a newspaper spread source, and that source will determine the spread. How much do you want to bet?

Everything I can find on the Net says the spread is 24 points, OK?

[Sigi]

Everything I can find on the Net says the spread is 24 points, OK?
24 ...yeah.....points....."sigh".....lol

My Irish is going to try and beat it......

ND will beat USC.........biatch. :0

[Roguish Lawyer]

24 ...yeah.....points....."sigh".....lol

My Irish is going to try and beat it......

ND will beat USC.........biatch. :0

41-10. :lifter

[Sigi]

After the ass beating at home last year I would expect a lot better of the Irish ......

Damn, Tyrone needs to find a defense, which is a staple of ND. He plays way too much like the Pac 10.

I gladly pay the tab (RL), but I think Notre Dame needs not only a new coach, but new recruiting.


And please spare me the comments about how the Golden Dome is tarnished because y'all can kiss it. If your son is going to Notre Dame he better be prepared for both freshman Physics and Chemistry and Logic and Trigonometry.

Damn I hate to lose. Damnit~

[Achilles]

After the ass beating at home last year I would expect a lot better of the Irish ......

Damn I hate to lose. Damnit~


You hate to lose but you root for ND? LOL!