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JJ_BPK
03-23-2010, 05:08
Spotted this article. Not sure of the extent, but the words "flash mab" were used as if they are in common use.

Can one of the peoples give us 30 sec on the definition and history of "flash mobs" ??



http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/88797557.html?cmpid=15585797

Another flash mob rocks South Street
In the 'tsunami,' chants of 'Burn the city!'

By KITTY CAPARELLA & STEPHANIE FARR
Philadelphia Daily News

caparek@phillynews.com 215-854-5880

Business owners yesterday called on Mayor Nutter to stop "flash mobs" on South Street after patrons couldn't shop, dine or get home on Saturday night because of the hordes of teens roaming the neighborhood.

Inspired by Twitter messages to "come to South Street," police say hundreds - business owners say thousands - of young teens stampeded down South Street in waves, jumping on top of cars, knocking over pedestrians and fighting and cursing.

"It was like a tsunami wave," said a store employee.

"The cops were overwhelmed," said a store manager.

The South Street business owners called on Nutter to impose a curfew of 10 p.m. or earlier after frightened managers locked their doors, only allowing customers inside.

Nutter did not return calls last night.


Saturday's was the sixth flash mob to hit the city since last May: three on South Street; two in the Gallery, including one that spread to Macy's; and one along Market Street East that spread to the area near City Hall.

Several store owners and managers documented the stampede with cell phones or store surveillance tape.

A pizza shop owner said that some in the mob were chanting, "Black Boys!" and "Burn the city."

One youth was overheard on his cell phone saying: "Bring baseball bats to South Street."


After enduring months of street construction during a recession, then one snowstorm after another, business owners were delighted that customers had returned to South Street to shop, eat and stroll on the first day of spring.

But the mood turned ominous as more and more teens showed up by 8 p.m. Between 9 and 10 p.m. the packed crowds reached a crescendo, according to police officials who deployed highway patrol, narcotics strike force and other units to assist officers on South Street. A parent, who had seen a text message or a post on Facebook, alerted police about the potential flash mob.

By 9 p.m., Yee Chau, manager of eModa, a clothing store, on South near 3rd, said "It was total mayhem. Kids were out of control. They were wall-to-wall. You couldn't see the sidewalks."

One armed owner, who showed the Daily News his gun permit, protected his business by standing outside with five assistants.

At Supper, a restaurant in the 900 block, bartender Kyle Fennie opened the locked door to let two woman customers out, but a mass of teens descended, and he let the women back inside. During a lull, he walked them to their cars.

About 10 p.m., police fanned out at either 2nd or 3rd Street and gradually moved the crowds west on South ot Broad. Kids started running at top speed, with some going around the block, and coming up behind the cops.

About 10:30 p.m. on South near 6th, Olympia Pizza II employee Seth Kaufman, 20, was in front of the pizza shop, trying to prevent kids from coming inside to fight with young customers who were eating.

As the crowd pushed the door to get inside, Kaufman pushed back. The crowd pushed again, and inside, the owners, 66-year-old Peter Psihogios, his wife, Harula, 58, and son Paul, 30, were pushing back on the store's double glass doors to keep them shut.

Kaufman said that kids slugged him, and he slugged them back, and then he was jumped, with kids kicking and punching him until he fell.

The elder Psihogios tried to bring Kaufman inside, but he was punched in the head.

Kaufman has bruises all over his body from face to legs.

"He saved our establishment from them coming in," said Paul Psihogios. "We owe him a lot of gratitude."

Numerous South Street residents reported hearing what they thought were gunshots about 11:15 p.m. around 13th Street south of South but police could not confirm it.

Barbara Bender, manager of South Street Souvlaki, near 5th Street, had to close at 9:30 p.m.

"It was devastating," she said. "People had been out buying and spending. It was great to see.

"Then kids were running this way and that, until the police had it under control at 11 p.m.

"Really, the mayor should address this with a 10 p.m. curfew for those under 18," she added. "Maybe the city should entertain kids to keep them from causing trouble."

Police said the incident was over by 1 a.m.

No property damage was reported but two juveniles and an adult were arrested in four incidents, police said. They included:

* About 11 p.m. a 27-year-old woman was walking on South near 15th when a large group of male and female juveniles ganged up on her, kicking and punching her until she fell to the ground, where they continued to kick her in the face and head. She was taken to Hahnemann University Hospital, where she was treated for bruises, abrasions and a large laceration on her upper lip. She has since been released. No arrests were made.

* A 17-year-old boy, whose name was not released, was arrested on a gun violation, after getting into a verbal exchange with a police officer, who ordered him to move his car from South Street near 12th. The teen got out of his car, took off his jacket and threw it into the back seat. The officer, who went over to the car, saw a handgun hanging out of the jacket in plain sight; 17-year-olds are prohibited from owning guns.

* A juvenile was arrested for obstructing traffic on South near 4th.

* An adult was arrested for disorderly conduct on South at 5th.



Very ominous... :mad::mad::mad:

LarryW
03-23-2010, 05:36
You're right, JJ. This is another calamity to consider. Makes one wonder what it's going to be like during the next Prez election. One can imagine BHO or his lap dogs (Pelosi, Emanuel, and other Romulans) twittering the hords to "get together for a little fun" at any location his opponent is speaking.

Reminds me of a movie in the 50's the title of which is forgotten. Kind of like this:

http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/the-deadly-facts-about-army-ants/

How does LEO deal with this?

Green Light
03-23-2010, 05:43
From Urban Dictionary:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flash+mob

flash mob
1. A group of people who appear from out of nowhere, to perfom predetermined actions, designed to amuse and confuse surrounding people. The group performs these actions for a short amount of time before quickly dispersing. Flash mobs are often organised through email and/or newsgroup postings.
The flash mob made chicken noises, confusing others around them.

2. flash mob
A group of people who are organised via various mass communications to come together at a specified place and time, perform some (typically whimsical) action, then disperse.
"The world's first flashmob was organised in Manhattan, in May 2003, by a man named Bill."

3. Flash Mob
A "flash mob" is a organized event where people gather to do a pre-determined action, in a pre-determined place at a pre-determined time. Usually harmless and funny. Think like massive pilow fights in town centers and things of the like. Usually organized on the internet.

Could easily be used by criminal enterprises or resistance organizations. Fortunately, most of them are traceable by either email or SMS messaging. But "throw away" cell phones are more difficult to trace and could be used for terrorist organizations for quick reations.

Dozer523
03-23-2010, 06:16
The weaponization of a a small, impossible to regulate, common, object. Cell phone . . . I guess "Jean has a long moostache" could be taken to a whole new level.

Pete
03-23-2010, 06:24
Flash Mob

Well, if you're going to be hit with a Flash Mob just hope it's this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k

casey
03-23-2010, 07:03
The City and media uses the term "flash mob" because I'm guessing riot has a slightly different connotation, especially due to the *gasp* non-diverse group of "flash-mobers".

Will it continue ?? Well, after several serious assaults and multiple non-reported assaults, the hard line taken by the Director of Public Safety is ......."people have the right to assemble"..............."its a fad"........

Maybe I'm getting way too jaded but I'm wondering if this non-diverse group had been arian skinheads, jewish thugs, or Amish agitators that specifically targeted another racial group - would they have been repeatedly called "kids" by everyone??

JJ_BPK
03-23-2010, 07:14
Flash Mob

Well, if you're going to be hit with a Flash Mob just hope it's this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k


This one I know about,, But I guess the definition applies to both types...

Ret10Echo
03-23-2010, 07:19
It would appear that similar (if not the same) techniques have been used in such instances as the recent Iranian student protests and other anti-regime assemblies (riots or otherwise). As with anything else, this technique and technology can be used for what seems to be the "right" reason or what is the "wrong" reason.....

One if by land, two if by sea.

I suppose distrurbing is relative.

R10

JJ_BPK
03-23-2010, 07:45
Police said the incident was over by 1 a.m.

No property damage was reported but two juveniles and an adult were arrested in four incidents, police said. They included:

Very ominous... :mad::mad::mad:


The complete lack of conviction and lethargic LEO response is what is ominous.

Is Phily that PC that they don't care??

We get upwards of 100K visitors for Fantasy Fest in Key West,, an island with 12K permanent residents. We know how to deal with street parties.

Maybe we should sell and teach our battle plans???

Anyone want to do some contract PSD work in Phily?? Free Official FF BDU's..

https://secure.floridakeys.com/stores/showprod.cfm?&DID=69&CATID=22&ObjectGroup_ID=34

BUD: Binge Drunks United...

Richard
03-23-2010, 07:50
I agree...disturbing...:p :rolleyes:

Richard

mugwump
03-23-2010, 07:54
It's a fad. Like streaking. Been going on for years, started with cell phone call trees. Like everything in life there are always nut jobs who spoil things for everyone.

I'm not arguing that technology can't be socialy transformative or disruptive but this is nothing to get worked up about.

JJ_BPK
03-23-2010, 07:57
I agree...disturbing...:p :rolleyes:

Richard

Richard, next time you come to FF, give me call.

I have a friend that can tailor you trench coat to help with those knees and maybe make a little more of a Fashion Statement.....

BrainStorm
03-23-2010, 08:04
Once the police tune into the same information stream the kids are using, they can become more proactive.

Richard
03-23-2010, 08:36
Richard, next time you come to FF, give me call.

I have a friend that can tailor you trench coat to help with those knees and maybe make a little more of a Fashion Statement.....


Looks like he hangs out at Saloon One.:rolleyes:

Richard

incarcerated
03-23-2010, 10:18
Hmmmm…. Hadn’t heard of this before. And it’s bigger than just Philly…

http://www.flashmob.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mob

http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Oprahs-Kickoff-Party-Flash-Mob-Dance

http://www3.timeoutny.com/chicago/blog/out-and-about/2010/03/flash-mob-zombies-at-daley-plaza-photo-gallery/

sf11b_p
03-23-2010, 11:47
Heh, 2004 CSI episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPO2LXda_c

DisplacedTrojan
03-23-2010, 21:15
Wow... things have changed. First time I heard of them was in 2003 in the LA area. People would coordinate to get together with more of a 'gag' atmosphere a la that youtube clip. This is the first I've heard of flashmobs being anything other than light hearted fun.

cback0220
03-24-2010, 17:30
Flash Mob

Well, if you're going to be hit with a Flash Mob just hope it's this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k

How is it every woman in Belgium is beautiful?

Richard
03-24-2010, 20:19
How is it every woman in Belgium is beautiful?

Been there many times - and they ain't. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

BrainStorm
03-24-2010, 22:07
Belgium; You also gotta love the dog poo on the sidewalks and the dogs accompanying their owners in the restaurants.

Of course, that was more than 20 years ago for me, so maybe things have changed by now.

Five-O
03-24-2010, 22:26
The complete lack of conviction and lethargic LEO response is what is ominous.

Is Phily that PC that they don't care??

We get upwards of 100K visitors for Fantasy Fest in Key West,, an island with 12K permanent residents. We know how to deal with street parties.

Maybe we should sell and teach our battle plans???

Anyone want to do some contract PSD work in Phily?? Free Official FF BDU's..

https://secure.floridakeys.com/stores/showprod.cfm?&DID=69&CATID=22&ObjectGroup_ID=34

BUD: Binge Drunks United...

First of all it is Philly not Phily. Second of all there was nothing lethargic and there was no lack of conviction in terms of the response by the Philadelphia Police Department. The term "flash mob" is kind of self explanatory. There is no way of predicting , as of now, when or where these godless savages are going to show up. Until the socail networking (FaceBook, MySpace,Twitter, BrownSpace, NiggaSpace)) sites are monitored or infiltrated it will be difficult or impossible to allocate resources to control the crowd. You really think some mary Fastasy Fest party goers in ...(controlling my laughter) Key West stack up againt a group of inner city kids who do give a shit about anything??? Give the Key West comparison a rest...please. In 2009 Philly had 390 Homicides, 1,049 Rapes, 9939 Robberies, 9,290 Aggravated assault. All REPORTED violent crime was at 20,668. Philly PD manages 100,000 strong crowds just about every sunday in the fall...and geeze no one drinks at an Eagles game. So I think Philly, NY, Chicago, LA etc.. have a good handle on crowd control.

11 "kids" were, this week, convicted of felony riot in another flash mob which happened a few weeks ago in a Macy's store in Center City Philadelphia. So lets blame the kids and the guardians for this latest violent urban phenomenon
and not the police. A few well placed pepperball rounds and a fractured skull or two would do wonders.

ZonieDiver
03-25-2010, 10:48
Belgium; You also gotta love the dog poo on the sidewalks and the dogs accompanying their owners in the restaurants.

Of course, that was more than 20 years ago for me, so maybe things have changed by now.

Hell, that is HERE in the USofA now! Dogs everywhere - including restaurants! One local eatery is have a Doggie Date night. (Not what it meant in my college days - when a prize was awarded. Such unenlightened times!) These childless, self-centered morons can bring their dog to the restaurant, with other "dog lovers" (be careful there, folks!) so as not to be subjected to the likes of me. Fine. Great. I just crossed that place off my list of places to EVER eat - unless they hose it down with Lysol first.

BrainStorm
03-25-2010, 11:11
Hell, that is HERE in the USofA now!

I'm actually untroubled by restaurants choosing to allow dogs. I can make an informed choice of where to eat. I'm more hostile to social acceptance of poo on the sidewalk.

I would also like restaurants to choose if they want to be smoking or non-smoking rather than government fiat. That way I can choose a place that permits me to smoke my pipe (old school - hobbit weed only) after my meal.

Liberty is getting scarcer. I wonder if this will continue or the folks will eventually rise up and say no more! That's the last straw!

I wonder...