View Full Version : Most US forces in Afghanistan to be under NATO
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100316/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nato_afghanistan
Another concession to our NATO allies?
Another concession to our NATO allies?
No - to us.
Richard
The Reaper
03-16-2010, 13:37
You are witnessing the end of the Theater SOCs and the reapportionment of SOF to conventional commanders.
And McChrystal knows this.
Watch it.
TR
You are witnessing the end of the Theater SOCs and the reapportionment of SOF to conventional commanders.
Which would mean? Severe limitations to the employment and proper use of SF forces on the ground due to conventional commanders hesitancy / lack of understanding of IW operations.
IMHO... SF should be outside and above the normal chain of command and never, ever placed under FOCC. It is too easy to compromise your human resources under those conditions and can have a potentially degrading effect in future operations.
Dozer523
03-18-2010, 06:42
I thought the idea when they formed SOC in the 1980's was to prevent this exact thing? That was a lessons learned from Grenada if my memory serves me correctly. I realize it was more complex than this simplified version, but my understanding was the gist of the thing. Those 1980 guys are all retired. No one remembers the briefing, no one can find the decision paper. It's never to late to re-invent the wheel to suit your own (McC's) agenda. What makes it interesting is not the re-inventing part but trying to re-name it "fire".
What a waste of a perfectly good tour at JSOC . . . He is no friend to us. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there is not too much "Special" about the Rangers.
The General must have run across a few QP's in the Green Bean Coffee Shop . . . they were probably wearing PTs and talking about visiting the little PX.
The Reaper
03-18-2010, 08:50
Which would mean?
To me, it means people who have no idea what SF is or how to employ it properly making life and death decisions.
You know, the same guys who think it is a good idea to put a combat outpost on low ground in the middle of a bowl.:rolleyes:
I do not think the comparison is really Grenada, I think it is Vietnam under Creighton Abrams. For those of you unfamiliar with the history, see how he handled SF in country, specifically, 5th Group. I am seeing a lot of parallels here.
TR