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NousDefionsDoc
07-29-2004, 09:37
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=109-07282004

Lieutenant General Edward D. Baca (United States Army, Retired)

Baca served as Chief of the National Guard Bureau in Washington, D.C. where he was responsible for formulating, developing, and coordinating all policies, programs and plans affecting Army and Air National Guard personnel. During his tenure as head of the National Guard, Baca was one of the highest-ranking Latinos in the U.S. military. A native of New Mexico, Baca enlisted in the New Mexico Army National Guard in 1956, volunteered for service in Vietnam, and retired as a three-star general officer. Baca also served as the Adjutant General of the New Mexico National Guard where he exercised joint command over both the Army and Air National Guard of New Mexico.

"I am proud to have served our country in the military for over 41 years. I am even prouder that 4 of my children have worn the uniform of our armed forces. Three are still serving. As a combat veteran and proven leader, I know that John Kerry will never send them in harm's way, without exhausting all means of diplomacy. Even then, it will be a last resort. God forbid if he ever has to, he will make sure that they are part of an armed force as best equipped, best training, and most respected in the world." - LTG Edward Baca (USA, Ret.)

Lieutenant General Daniel W. Christman (United States Army, Retired)

Christman served as the Superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. He also served for two years as Assistant to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during which time he represented the U.S. as a member of NATO's Military Committee in Brussels, Belgium. He is a combat veteran of Southeast Asia where he commanded a company in the 101st Airborne Division. Christman was born on May 5, 1943 and is a native of Hudson, Ohio.

"Success in the global war on terror requires enlightened U.S. leadership - leadership that knows the importance of listening to and working with other countries. Senator Kerry is such a leader, and as Commander-in-Chief, he will adapt our military to the unprecedented security demands faced by our country and its armed forces." - LTG Daniel Christman (USA, Ret.)

General Wesley K. Clark (United States Army, Retired)

Wesley Clark was born December 23rd 1944 in Chicago, Illinois, and raised in Little Rock, Arkansas. He graduated first in his class from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1966 and received his Masters degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics from Oxford University where he was a Rhodes Scholar. In the Army, Clark rose steadily through the ranks, culminating in his service as the Commander-in-Chief of US Southern Command from 1996 to 1997 and NATO Supreme Allied Commander from 1997 to 2000. He retired from the Army in 2000. Clark and his wife Gert live in Little Rock, Arkansas and have one son. "I ask you to join me in standing up for an American who has given truly outstanding service to his country in peace and in war. John Kerry has the right message and right character to bring the nation forward. Both John and I served in Vietnam -- and know what it is to be tested on the battlefield, fighting for your country. John Kerry never quit fighting for his country." - GEN Wesley K. Clark (USA, Ret.)

Admiral William J. Crowe (United States Navy, Retired)

Crowe served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest ranking officer in the U.S. military. Prior to serving as Chairman, he served as Commander in Chief in several areas, including the U.S. Pacific Command, Allied Forces in Southern Europe, U.S. Naval Forces in Europe and the Middle East Forces. He was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1985 until his retirement from the Navy in 1989.

"The current administration has an overly simplistic view of how and when to use our military. By not bringing in our friends and allies, they have created a mess in Iraq and are crippling our forces around the world. John Kerry has a realistic understanding of the requirements of our military and the threats that we face." - ADM William J. Crowe (USN, Ret.)

Vice Admiral Lee F. Gunn (United States Navy, Retired)

Gunn served as the Inspector General of the Department of the Navy until his retirement in August 2000. Gunn commanded the USS BARBEY and the Destroyer Squadron "Thirty-one," a component of the U.S. Navy's Anti-Submarine Warfare Destroyer Squadrons. Gunn is from Bakersfield, California and is a graduate of the University of California, Los Angeles. He received his commission from the Naval ROTC program at UCLA in June 1965.

"My son is a Navy sailor, my son-in-law is a Navy sailor, and my nephew is a Navy sailor. I want them, and all of America's sons and daughters in uniform to have a new, wiser, better, and courageous commander-in-chief in John Kerry." - VADM Lee F. Gunn (USN, Ret.)

General Joseph Hoar (United States Marine Corps, Retired)

Hoar served as Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Central Command. After the first Gulf War, Hoar led the effort to enforce the naval embargo in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, enforce the no-fly zone in the south of Iraq. He oversaw the humanitarian and peacekeeping operations in Kenya and Somalia and also led the U.S. Marine Corps support for operations in Rwanda, and the evacuation of U.S. civilians from Yemen during the 1994 civil war. Hoar was the Deputy for Operations for the Marine Crops during the Gulf War and served as General Norman Schwartzkopf's Chief of Staff at Central Command. General Hoar was born in Boston, Massachusetts and graduated from Tufts University where he received his commission through the ROTC program.

"Sen. Kerry has demonstrated his courage in combat and his broad knowledge of international relations while in the Senate. He's a leader who is not afraid to lead." - GEN Joseph Hoar (USMC, Ret.)

NousDefionsDoc
07-29-2004, 09:37
Lieutenant General Claudia J. Kennedy (United States Army, Retired)

Kennedy is the first and only woman to achieve the rank of three-star general in the United States Army. Kennedy also served as Deputy Chief of Staff for Army Intelligence, Commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, and as Commander of the 703d military intelligence brigade in Kunia, Hawaii. She was born in Frankfurt, Germany, and earned her commission as a second lieutenant in June 1969 through the Women's Army Corps.

"John Kerry understands the future as it is framed by the international community and by the people at home. He will make the right decisions about education, defense, intelligence, economic development both foreign and domestic, and sustaining international relationships. He is a leader I trust." - LTG Claudia J. Kennedy (USA, Ret.)

Lieutenant General Donald Kerrick (United States Army, Retired)

Kerrick served as Deputy National Security Advisor to the President of the United States where he was responsible for developing, implementing, and managing United States foreign and national security policies. He was a principal negotiator on the international Bosnia Peace Delegation that ended the Bosnian War, and served on the Steering Committee for the Protection of United States Critical Infrastructure. Kerrick holds a Masters degree from the University of Southern California and a Bachelors degree from Florida Southern College. He was awarded an honorary Doctor of Diplomacy from Florida Southern College. Kerrick was born on April 1949 in Bethesda, Maryland and was raised in Islamorada, Florida.

"The miscalculations of the last three years have severely stressed our armed forces both around the world and here at home. John Kerry understands the military and war. He is the right leader at the right time to restore America's credibility around the world." - LTG Donald Kerrick (USA, Ret.)

General Merrill "Tony" A. McPeak (United States Air Force, Retired)

McPeak served as the Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force. Previously, McPeak served as Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Air Forces. He is a command pilot, having flown more than 6,000 hours, principally in fighter aircraft. General McPeak was born January 9, 1936 in Santa Rosa, California and entered the Air Force in 1957 as a distinguished graduate of the San Diego State College ROTC program.

"I'm a registered independent, but I like and admire John Kerry. He simply has a great record of brave and skillful service to the country. He is sure to be a fine Commander-in-Chief, one we can all be proud of, and proud to follow." - GEN Merrill "Tony" A. McPeak (USAF, Ret.)

General John M. Shalikashvili (United States Army, Retired)

Shalikashvili served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest ranking officer in the U.S. military. Prior to serving as Chairman, he served as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe and also as the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. European Command. He served as Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Army in Europe and during the first Gulf War in 1991, assumed command of Operation Provide Comfort, the relief operation that returned hundreds of thousands of Kurdish refugees to Northern Iraq. Shalikashvili is a naturalized U.S. citizen and was born in Warsaw, Poland on June 27, 1936.

"I believe in John Kerry. As a young man, he heeded his country's call to service when it needed him. He commanded in combat and did so with bravery and distinction. He knows from experience a commander's responsibility to his troops. He stands with our troops and with their families." - GEN John M. Shalikashvili (USA, Ret.)

Admiral Stansfield Turner (United States Navy, Retired)

Turner served as the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1977-1981. Previously, he served in the U.S. Navy as Commander of the U.S. Second Fleet and NATO Striking Fleet Atlantic. Turner also served as the Commander-in-Chief of NATO's Southern Flank, and as President of the Naval War College. Before promotion to Admiral in 1970, he served on destroyers off the shores of Korea and Vietnam, and as executive assistant and naval aide to two Secretaries of the Navy. A native of Highland Park, Illinois, Turner received his commission from the United States Naval Academy and was a Rhodes Scholar.

"George Bush as the Commander-in-Chief has got us into a morass in both Iraq and Afghanistan. John Kerry is a true veteran, and would be a much better commander-in-chief." - ADM Stansfield Turner (USN, Ret.)

General Johnnie E. Wilson (United States Army, Retired)

Wilson served as the Commanding General of the U.S. Army Material Command, and was responsible for the Army's wholesale logistics, acquisition and technology generation operations. He was born on February 4, 1944 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and raised in Lorain, Ohio. He entered the Army in August 1961 as an enlisted soldier and retired n 1999 as a four-star general. Wilson is one of just four African-Americans to earn four stars in the U.S. Army's more than 200-year history. Wilson held a wide variety of important command and staff positions including Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics, and Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army Materiel Command.

"Senator Kerry is a principled, patriotic leader with the requisite skills to lead America in the 21st century." - GEN Johnnie E. Wilson (USA, Ret.)

Roycroft201
07-29-2004, 09:47
I am interested to hear the response to NDD's post by the members of the military, AD and ret., on this site. As a civilian, my first response was, "Oh, sh*t."

Roguish Lawyer
07-29-2004, 09:58
I am a bit surprised by Adm. Crowe.

The Reaper
07-29-2004, 10:08
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I am a bit surprised by Adm. Crowe.

You gotta be kidding me, he sold out to Klinton for a seat on the Court of St James.

The only ones that surprise me are Shali, who must be suffereing from senile dementia, and GEN Hoar, who I thought was a decent guy.

The rest are the usual assortment of disgruntled players, liberal panderers and office seekers.

One thing about it, if Kerry did get elected and the Dems took Congress back, the train wreck as he tried to implement his policies would be incredible to watch. From the outside.

TR

Bravo1-3
07-29-2004, 10:29
Hmmm, Wes Clark and Claudia Kennedy... I'm shocked! :p

Admiral Crowe is a bit suprising, then again, maybe not.

Shalikashvili, Kerrick and Baca are Clinitonites, so in my book, they are well qualified to CAUSE a cluster-fuck, but I don't think they could SPOT one.

Turner was a Carter era CIA guy right? No motive there right?

I'm going to refrain from commenting on Gen Hoar, as any beef I have with him comes as a result of a disagreement with a policy he instituted as a Major General tht cause me a shitload of grief.

I thought McPeak got into a bunch of trouble for wasting taxpayer money and flying around in an F-15.

I don't know anything of substance aboutthe others on the list.

Jack Moroney (RIP)
07-29-2004, 11:23
The ones that I have some knowledge about, which will go un-named here, don't surprise me at all. With some very minor exceptions you have to remember that flag officers get to be senior flag officers by being selected by other flag officers who feel that they "measure up" to those principles and "values" that the flag officers doing the selecting hold as important. In some cases those "important" values are those that will ensure a loyal subordinate that supports (notice I said supports and not makes) decisions made by those above them without question or thought. Many of those listed fall into the "efficient manager" catagory where they manage programs and dollars without much regard for the outcome save that which will effect their career and satisfy the convoluted logic of their superiors. Loyalty for most of these folks flows upward and not downward to those who will be most effected by their actions (again notice I did not say decisions). Now if you take a close look at the names and remember when they served it really isn't too hard to figure out why they support Kerry and the democratic agenda. They were great at managing resources but you don't manage troops, you have to lead them and that is where most of these folks fall short in my very humble opinion.

Jack Moroney

QRQ 30
07-29-2004, 11:54
Are you sure that Hoar isn't spelled "whore"?:D

Airbornelawyer
07-29-2004, 13:33
LTG Kerrick, a man who spent most of his career in military intelligence, was Sandy Berger's deputy for 3 years. Do you suppose he ever noticed what Clinton described as Berger's famously sloppy attitude toward handling of classified materials?

Solid
07-29-2004, 14:26
I sense a case of MHTFUA-
Multiple heads too far up assholes.