View Full Version : America's most miserable cities
Ret10Echo
02-19-2010, 04:46
This year's metros of misery: Full article from Forbes here (http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/11/americas-most-miserable-cities-business-beltway-miserable-cities_2.html)
1. Cleveland, Ohio.
2. Stockton, Calif.
3. Memphis, Tenn.
4. Detroit, Mich.
5. Flint, Mich.
6. Miami, Fla.
7. St. Louis, Mo.
8. Buffalo, N.Y.
9. Canton, Ohio.
10. Chicago, Ill.
11. Modesto, Calif.
12. Akron, Ohio.
13. Kansas City, Mo.
14. Rockford, Ill.
15. Toledo, Ohio.
16. New York, N.Y.
17. Sacramento, Calif.
18. Youngstown, Ohio.
19. Gary, Ind.
20. Philadelphia, Pa.
Crap... I would think Baltimore would be on there....
AL :munchin
Dozer523
02-19-2010, 07:45
St Louis is on the miserable list because of. . . . the . . . Rams? That is ridiculous!
This is a Baseball town! With Albert and the boys, this place is better then the Magic Kingdom.
Must really suck to be from Chicago -- Bears, Cubbies and Bulls
Utah Bob
02-19-2010, 07:49
I'm pretty much miserable whenever I'm in any city. ;)
Is there something about living near the great lakes that makes it especially crappy? 25% of the towns on that list are near a great lake.
Is there something about living near the great lakes that makes it especially crappy? 25% of the towns on that list are near a great lake.
One winter and you'll understand. :D
I'm pretty much miserable whenever I'm in any city.
Concur, Bob. Closest "city" to me has a pop of 2,200, and that's just way too many folks in one place.
Washington DC should have been on the list. What a toilet bowl.
Criteria include violent crime, unemployment, foreclosures and abandoned housing, taxes, commute times, weather, superfund pollution sites, and sports teams (when applicable).
I like it pretty well here in North Texas. :D
And so it goes...
Richard's $.02 :munchin
greenberetTFS
02-19-2010, 12:06
St Louis is on the miserable list because of. . . . the . . . Rams? That is ridiculous!
This is a Baseball town! With Albert and the boys, this place is better then the Magic Kingdom.
Must really suck to be from Chicago -- Bears, Cubbies and Bulls
Dozer,I know your trying to suck me in on this one but I'm not going to bite!.........:p:p:p
Big Teddy :munchin
Dozer523
02-19-2010, 12:15
Dozer,I know your trying to suck me in on this one but I'm not going to bite!.........
Big Teddy I'm tryin'
BTW when was the last World Championship for the cubbies? Oh yeah when a road trip really was a 'road trip' Cuz airplanes hadn't been invented.:p:p:p
seriously, it's Spring Trainning time. Baseball is back and life is good!!!
armymom1228
02-19-2010, 12:25
Crap... I would think Baltimore would be on there....
AL :munchin
Yeah and Fayetteville. :rolleyes:
armymom1228
02-19-2010, 12:28
seriously, it's Spring Trainning time. Baseball is back and life is good!!!
Yes it is Spring training in Florida. (http://www.floridaspringtraining.com/):munchin
Ret10Echo
02-19-2010, 14:09
Feels GREAT to be #1
Everyone should seek excellence at something.
Longstreet
02-19-2010, 14:41
Criteria include violent crime, unemployment, foreclosures and abandoned housing, taxes, commute times, weather, superfund pollution sites, and sports teams (when applicable).
If the list was for North America, Toronto would definately have to be near the top. Violent crimes seem to happen everyday, not too many good paying jobs to be had, land taxes just went up 4% plus a whole bunch of new service fees, the weather is crappy on a good day and the Jays just suck too.
And while the above is bad, what would really launch us to the top can be summarized in two words: THE LEAfS.
jaYson
Kyobanim
02-19-2010, 15:06
Looks like Ohio is, overall the shittiest place to be . . .
Red Flag 1
02-19-2010, 15:23
Not in any of them, I like it that way.
How did Washington DC not wind up on the list, politics alone should have done it :confused:.
RF 1
How did Washington DC not wind up on the list, politics alone should have done it :confused:.
RF 1
Kansas City, MO has some interesting areas but it isn't that bad. St. Louis, Chicago, Philadelphia, Memphis they all pale in comparison to DC, it is the worst city I have ever visited.
Kansas City, MO has some interesting areas but it isn't that bad. St. Louis, Chicago, Philadelphia, Memphis they all pale in comparison to DC, it is the worst city I have ever visited.
Just out of curiosity, business trip or pleasure in DC?
I've been to DC a few times to visit friends and enjoyed it. Memphis on the other hand... :eek: I will say though, I hated not being able to CCW in DC.
Plutarch
02-19-2010, 16:59
Looks like Ohio is, overall the shittiest place to be . . .
It is. I'm desperately trying to escape. By moving to Texas, I would save over $8,000 a year in state and local taxes.
Must really suck to be from Chicago -- Bears, Cubbies and Bulls
Well, we are the City of Big Shoulders. :p
Ret10Echo
02-19-2010, 18:18
Looks like Ohio is, overall the shittiest place to be . . .
So where is the _________ist who can explain the trends and composition of Ohio cities that creates a situation of suck.....I mean misery?
Before Dozer jumps in and suggests a proctologist....let me clarify by saying a sociologist, economist or perhaps even a historian. My general understanding would come from the loss of industry and jobs but apparently it goes deeper than that as overall governance, labor movement and draft picks seem to add fuel to the fire so-to-speak.
Surf n Turf
02-19-2010, 19:12
They elected Dennis Kucinich as Mayor of Cleveland in 1977, and he quite literally bankrupt the city and drove business out of the state. :(
SnT
http://www.answers.com/topic/dennis-kucinich
DevilSide
02-19-2010, 20:24
I'm not too shocked to see Miami up there, I heard Florida was in the top 5 as far as unemployment goes. Also happens to be the 3rd highest prison population, and a few cities came up on that 'most dangerous cities'. I'm too distracted by the perks to be worried about the bad, if I were in Chicago, I would be a popsicle, unemployed, and maybe a little more bored than I would out here.
Dozer523
02-19-2010, 23:44
So where is the _________ist who can explain the trends and composition of Ohio cities that creates a situation of suck.....I mean misery?
Before Dozer jumps in and suggests a proctologist....let me clarify by saying a sociologist, economist or perhaps even a historian. My general understanding would come from the loss of industry and jobs but apparently it goes deeper than that as overall governance, labor movement and draft picks seem to add fuel to the fire so-to-speak. What!!!! I love -ists people. And I don't even now what a professional Ctologist does.:eek: Bet it's way cool whatever it is.
Big Teddy, quit spreading bad rumors about me. Besides you don't need the cubbies, you have the Saints now:D
I like Ohio -- they have the Cincinatti (oh well even spell check can't figure it out) Reds!