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This quote sparked some some interesting weekend reading:
"Piri Reis 16th century Turkish Admiral's Map - 1531 A.D. accurately shows the topography of northern Antarctica (now covered by mile-high ice)...we didn't have ground penetrating radar until 1958... Check to see the last time Antarctica was not covered by ice and now you have found a mystery."
This quote sparked some some interesting weekend reading:
"Piri Reis 16th century Turkish Admiral's Map - 1531 A.D. accurately shows the topography of northern Antarctica (now covered by mile-high ice)...we didn't have ground penetrating radar until 1958... Check to see the last time Antarctica was not covered by ice and now you have found a mystery."
This must be part of the Global Warming thing.
I'm assuming that if water was not ice, it must be either vapor/steam or in liquid form resting easily in rivers or oceans. I don't see a problem with this.
Q: What did the world really look like in 1531?
A: Probably just greener.
This quote sparked some some interesting weekend reading:
"Piri Reis 16th century Turkish Admiral's Map - 1531 A.D. accurately shows the topography of northern Antarctica (now covered by mile-high ice)...we didn't have ground penetrating radar until 1958... Check to see the last time Antarctica was not covered by ice and now you have found a mystery."
I was discussing this with Al Gore last week at the Tiki bar.. If the polor caps melt, as suggested..
Swizerland would be an island.
South America would be a island,
You could swim from Vermont to Bolder Co with out touching bottom,
Japan would be under water...
Probably not on Admiral Piri Reis' watch...
:confused::confused::confused::confused:
ZonieDiver
02-06-2010, 11:04
This quote sparked some some interesting weekend reading:
"Piri Reis 16th century Turkish Admiral's Map - 1531 A.D. accurately shows the topography of northern Antarctica (now covered by mile-high ice)...we didn't have ground penetrating radar until 1958... Check to see the last time Antarctica was not covered by ice and now you have found a mystery."
I got invited to a "Mensa" social event in '74 (don't ask!), and many of the braniacs were discussing "Cayce" (pronounced "Casey") and Piri Reis (pronouned "PeeRee Reese"). I came in during the middle of their discussion of aliens, UFO's, etc. and thought they were talking about Casey (as in Stengel) and PeeWEE Reese, as in shortstop, and began talking baseball.
I didn't get invited back, and our "company clerk" who had invited me based on my glorious GT score, did not talk to me for a month or more. :D
Of course, that was similar to the time I fell asleep in my college English class and awoke to their discussion of "youth in Asia." I launched into a diatribe about Mao, his little "Red Book," and the Red Guard only to be met with weird looks. It seems they were discussing "euthanasia" instead. Ooops.
I'm with you I remember PeeWee Reese in Chicago!
AngelsSix
02-06-2010, 21:56
I got invited to a "Mensa" social event in '74 (don't ask!), and many of the braniacs were discussing "Cayce" (pronounced "Casey") and Piri Reis (pronouned "PeeRee Reese"). I came in during the middle of their discussion of aliens, UFO's, etc. and thought they were talking about Casey (as in Stengel) and PeeWEE Reese, as in shortstop, and began talking baseball.
I didn't get invited back, and our "company clerk" who had invited me based on my glorious GT score, did not talk to me for a month or more. :D
Of course, that was similar to the time I fell asleep in my college English class and awoke to their discussion of "youth in Asia." I launched into a diatribe about Mao, his little "Red Book," and the Red Guard only to be met with weird looks. It seems they were discussing "euthanasia" instead. Ooops.
LMAO!! I have this problem, but it's because I am half deaf....I hear discussions in pieces half the time in a noisy room and just one or two words will jump out at me...and of course I instantly take them out of context!!:D
This must be part of the Global Warming thing.
I'm assuming that if water was not ice, it must be either vapor/steam or in liquid form resting easily in rivers or oceans. I don't see a problem with this.
Q: What did the world really look like in 1531?
A: Probably just greener.
Sorry to disappoint Mr. Gore and friends, but climate change appears to have been patented several million years ago... which is when Antarctica became covered in ice...
So the mystery is, how did PeeWEE come understand that there was a landmass beneath the ice, keeping in mind this was before the invention of radars and satellite imagery? Have historians misread his map or was technology in the 16th century more advanced than we know?
Utah Bob
02-07-2010, 06:19
Pee Wee Reese and Dizzy Dean.
Best baseball broadcasters ever!:D
I'm with you I remember PeeWee Reese in Chicago!
I never saw him play nor heard him call a game.
But Pee Wee will always be number one in the hearts of all Dodgers fans.
Went to my first pro ball game in Chicago in 1957 as a 6 year old with my Uncle Tommy. He later told (4 years) me who was playing when I was collecting baseball cards and mentioned PeeWee Reese so I collected that card.
Actually all I remember from the game was all of the men in their hats, white shirts and many in ties... a man wouldn't be coaught outside without his fedora.
Great info on the map.
Encouraging to see I've succeeded in igniting an interesting discussion about um, baseball! ;)
We're not mensa stock either I guess....lol
Utah Bob
02-07-2010, 11:19
Encouraging to see I've succeeded in igniting an interesting discussion about um, baseball! ;)
Well, we could talk about guns.:D
Utah Bob
02-07-2010, 11:20
Or the Shackelton Antarctic Scotch they just found!
That's sort of on topic..:p
We're not mensa stock either I guess....lol
I'd bet you are.
No offense meant. ;)
Ok, I'm studying the map now but can't find the 'you are here' mark....
all kidding aside a very good ref for conversation as I engage man made warming supporteres all of the time...they are fun to toy with before killing.
IIRC, the Admiral made this map from several (4 or 5) preexisting maps, a common practice. There are several errors that can be found on the map, (duplicate islands in different places) that point out known maps from the time, and common beliefs about certain unknown areas of the world. The map that depicted Antarctica is supposed to be the same source map that Columbus used to make his map for the voyage to find a new route to India. I do not remember if Columbus' map has been found, and I do remember that the original was never found.
ZonieDiver
02-08-2010, 08:48
IIRC (which happens less frequently these days, it seems) the topic of these maps "back in the day" when I cared about such things was that he had been given "info" from aliens. Somehow it all fit in with the drawings on the Plains of Nazca, the Atlantis Road (Wall) off Bimini, and "The Bermuda Triangle"!
I just figured he screwed up his map. Or something.