View Full Version : Obama: Intelligent, but intellectually lazy?
HowardCohodas
01-29-2010, 10:51
I have said here and on other forums that I believe Barak Obama to be intelligent, but intellectually lazy. I came to the feeling that he was lazy on one of the rare occasions when he took questions after a speech. He gave his regular inspirational performance during the speech. However, when asked a question it was if he did not understand the contents of the speech. In fact, it was as if he had not even read it. I can understand a president not being a wonk on all the subjects he is required to speak on. But was just unfamiliar with the precedents of his proposal.
Well, now the SOTU speech has caused me to reevaluate my conclusion that he is intelligent. In his attach on the Supreme court, this constitutional scholar, this constitutional professor, this leader who has pledged to honor the constitution apparently, did not understand the Supreme Court ruling. He didn't get it just a little wrong. He got it majorly wrong.
I was wrong. :o
HowardCohodas
01-29-2010, 11:15
There is a big differance between being intellegant and the ability to apply knowledge. I to agree he is intellegant ie book smart, however when it comes to the real world he does not know how to apply commone sense and logic. I used to work with a lot of engineers and some of them were like that. There would be a simple problem and their solution was the most complex solution you can imagine, yet a simple solution would be betteer.
You must be careful about bashing engineers. I are one. :D
There is a big differance between being intellegant and the ability to apply knowledge. I to agree he is intellegant ie book smart, however when it comes to the real world he does not know how to apply commone sense and logic.
When I was a young gun, my grandfather would some times point out a gentleman on the street, someone he knew, and say, "That man hasn't been around the coffee pot long enough to find the handle". Or, .."he's to smart for his own good, ...his thinking is going to get someone hurt".
Intellectuals????
Thomas Jefferson once said, (paraphrase), knowledge is wonderful, I'm constantly reminded how much I don't know.
I read that as being humble. I've always admired the simple speach of great learned men.
why do people keep saying the man is intelligent?? Please name me one thing he has done that is indicative of intelligence....
Sealed grades; no writing as law review editor (requirement); nothing published as a law professor (requirement); no record in senate;
The man got to where he is by the color of his skin. His performance is an indictment of affirmative action.
why do people keep saying the man is intelligent?? Please name me one thing he has done that is indicative of intelligence....
Sealed grades; no writing as law review editor (requirement); nothing published as a law professor (requirement); no record in senate;
The man got to where he is by the color of his skin. His performance is an indictment of affirmative action.
This is the part were I mention the handle. But in his defense, he has identified those people who are attempting to destroy America. In that, he has been consistent.
It's when intellectuals start believing their own press.
GratefulCitizen
01-29-2010, 21:16
"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
-Niels Bohr
Ask the president how many mistakes he has made...
Utah Bob
01-29-2010, 22:55
I have no doubt he's an intelligent fellow.
He seems to be lacking in common sense.
I suspect his ego cancels both out and blinds him to reality.
armymom1228
01-29-2010, 23:02
I have no doubt he's an intelligent fellow.
He seems to be lacking in common sense.
I suspect his ego cancels both out and blinds him to reality.
You watched that speech with the afterward Q&A at the Republican Club too?:munchin
HowardCohodas
01-30-2010, 05:13
You watched that speech with the afterward Q&A at the Republican Club too?:munchin
You mean, the show with a panelist who is a Harvard Medical School MD and a board certified psychiatrist? The same panelist who thinks Obama may be clinically delusional?
Yep I sure did.
armymom1228
01-30-2010, 12:00
You mean, the show with a panelist who is a Harvard Medical School MD and a board certified psychiatrist? The same panelist who thinks Obama may be clinically delusional?
Yep I sure did.
I dunno, is it this speech (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/29/obama.gop/index.html?hpt=C2) that CNN showed last night. He was taking some tough questions from the GOP attendees.
Delusional, probably. I am not fond of the man or his policies. Glenn Beck did a great piece on Progressivim last night that made one think that he is using Woodrow Willson and FDR's progressive policies. I quite enjoyed it and reccomend watching that particular show.
I dunno, is it this speech (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/29/obama.gop/index.html?hpt=C2) that CNN showed last night. He was taking some tough questions from the GOP attendees.
Delusional, probably. I am not fond of the man or his policies. Glenn Beck did a great piece on Progressivim last night that made one think that he is using Woodrow Willson and FDR's progressive policies. I quite enjoyed it and reccomend watching that particular show.
King O nose in the air, jutting chin, taking down to everyone...I can't stomach more than a 60 seconds of him. I find King O conceited, entitled and arrogant.
When he pulled out the spoiled brat card that if he didn't get his way he would just issue an Executive Order or in the case of the SCOTUS decision they would find away around it. In other words screw you, I am going to do it with or without your approval.
IMO, the charade is about to come to an end, and the man is showing us his true colors as threatening thug.
HowardCohodas
01-30-2010, 12:57
You mean, the show with a panelist who is a Harvard Medical School MD and a board certified psychiatrist? The same panelist who thinks Obama may be clinically delusional?
Yep I sure did.
No-one identified this well-known pundit. :(
armymom1228
01-30-2010, 13:04
No-one identified this well-known pundit. :(
Hey, I only could handle like 10 minutes of this arrogant comments and refusal to really try to address the questions offered up by the GOP attendees before I had to change the channel. I didn't have time to identify the rats from the polecats at that point.
AM
No-one identified this well-known pundit. :(
Howard you just quoted yourself dude.
HowardCohodas
01-30-2010, 16:07
Howard you just quoted yourself dude.
Is that against the rules? :lifter
GratefulCitizen
01-30-2010, 17:23
Is that against the rules? :lifter
Your avatar should now display: e^i3π + 1 = 0
:D
Utah Bob
01-30-2010, 17:49
No-one identified this well-known pundit. :(
That would be Charles Krauthammer, or as I call him... Chucky.:D
Don't confuse education with intelligence. Color got this clown into schools we could not attempt. His performance was apparently sub-par (hence the sealed grades). I repeat - can anybody point to ANYTHING this clown has done that is indicative of intelligence?? :confused:
I repeat - can anybody point to ANYTHING this clown has done that is indicative of intelligence??
Well - one could argue that he is the POTUS...and we're not...although approximately half the voters in this country would also use that as a counter argument based on their views of GWB...or of WJC...usw.
Richard's $.02 :munchin
HowardCohodas
01-31-2010, 19:34
That would be Charles Krauthammer, or as I call him... Chucky.:D
I've never met him, however I imagine I would address him as Dr. Krauthammer. :cool:
I repeat - can anybody point to ANYTHING this clown has done that is indicative of intelligence??
As a POTUS and a leader the guy is a zero. His constant gaffes in conduct, common sense, and ignorance of history are embarrassing for one so educated. It's possible his sole talent is a knack for delivering speeches, he doesn't seem to recall what he even said. However, Obama or someone in his camp, unfortunately ran a magnificent campaign, outmanuevered a savvy experienced Hillary Clinton, and probably changed how technology is used in US elections going forward.
Axelrod and the dem establishment ID'd this guy years ago. It was NO coincidence that he gave the key note speech at the dem convention back when Lurch(?) was running. He has been groomed for the position as an icon. He has no substance. John Lott used to teach with him at Columbia and he has given a number of interviews of just what a lightweight the guy is. He is an affirmative action icon, that ironically will set back the progress of blacks for years.
Utah Bob
02-02-2010, 09:37
I've never met him, however I imagine I would address him as Dr. Krauthammer. :cool:
Well, when I watch him speaking on tv, I tend to yell out, "Attaboy Chucky".
"Attaboy Dr. Krauthammer" just doesn't feel right for me.
I mean sure, okay so he's a Constitutional law professor, where does that mean he knows anything about foreign policy, economics, healthcare, education, etc...
Broadsword 2004,
I've read his swipe at the supreme court during the state of the union address was surprisingly ignorant for a constitutional law professor. I hear you on McCain, he made mistakes which make me wonder if he really wanted to win. Obama did however outmanuever the Clintons, who are both talented and more experienced politicians.
HowardCohodas
02-02-2010, 18:09
Well, when I watch him speaking on tv, I tend to yell out, "Attaboy Chucky".
"Attaboy Dr. Krauthammer" just doesn't feel right for me.
Mostly I yell, "why couldn't I say it like that?" :o
I know the answer, of course. Cause he is really smart. :)
[The man who eventually became president] did however outmaneuver the Clintons, who are both talented and more experienced politicians.FWIW, the New York Times ran a scathing analysis of Mrs. Clinton's crash and burn in June 2008. That article, available here (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us/politics/08recon.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all), points more to the dysfunctions of and the division within the Clinton campaign than anything else.
MOO, much of the current president's successful political career can be chalked up to the sexual misadventures of his rivals.
In 2004, he won his senate seat over GOP rising star Jack Ryan whose own sex scandal led to a vicious divorce. The details of which became public in the heat of the campaign. (Ryan evidently believed that sevenofnine was not just a character his wife, Jeri Ryan, played on Star Trek: Voyager but a position she should fill as a part of his living The Lifestyle.) <<RIMSHOT (http://instantrimshot.com/rimshot.swf)>>
Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruptions" cast into doubt his wife's credibility. Her continued loyalty seemed to demonstrate that she placed her political ambitions ahead of her sense of self.
The MSM's refusal to break the story of Senator Edwards's mistress meant that his supporters had no reason to re-evaluate their priorities when Edwards endorsed his rival from Illinois.
Can we agree that the President of the United States of America has not achieved (any of) his goals?
Can we all agree that foreign policy issues basically remain the same and have not had a major policy shifts. Same issues, same confrontations, etc?
Can we agree that no matter the party, the economic bailout would have been very much the same?
Can we agree that after the heavy handiness of the democrats, the American People will be very reluctant to ever again place that much control in the hands of one party again?
In some thread prior to the election, I stated that if elected, President Obama's Presidency, would resemble that of Mayor Dinkins reign as Mayor of NYC. I do not think, at least at this point, the comparison is unwarranted.
Also, the most interesting result of Dinkins stewardship of NYC has been the in last five election. The box office score for NYC is: Rudy 2, Bloomberg 3; conservative results in arugably, one of the most liberal city in the world.
And NO he never sent me my $500.00 Bucks back!!
HowardCohodas
02-02-2010, 20:45
Can we agree that the President of the United States of America has not achieved (any of) his goals?
Yes
Can we all agree that foreign policy issues basically remain the same and have not had a major policy shifts. Same issues, same confrontations, etc?
No. I believe we are in a far worse position. We are not feared diplomatically, not respected and subject to ridicule. Even Lech Walesa expressed his concern a day or so ago. Our only card is fear by force and that, I believe, is not sustainable.
Can we agree that no matter the party, the economic bailout would have been very much the same?
Yes and no. I fear you are correct, but they both would be wrong.
Can we agree that after the heavy handiness of the democrats, the American People will be very reluctant to ever again place that much control in the hands of one party again?
No. It takes less than a generation to forget. Obama is Carter redux.
In some thread prior to the election, I stated that if elected, President Obama's Presidency, would resemble that of Mayor Dinkins reign as Mayor of NYC. I do not think, at least at this point, the comparison is unwarranted.
Also, the most interesting result of Dinkins stewardship of NYC has been the in last five election. The box office score for NYC is: Rudy 2, Bloomberg 3; conservative results in arugably, one of the most liberal city in the world.
And NO he never sent me my $500.00 Bucks back!!
I do not consider Bloomberg a conservative. He belongs to the Chavaz school or politics. "I'll change the rules so I can be Mayor for a third term." Palease!
I admire Rudy but believe he was a bully and tried to get things done extra-legally. In my opinion, an abuse of power.
incarcerated
02-02-2010, 22:47
I have said here and on other forums that I believe Barak Obama to be intelligent, but intellectually lazy.
Uh, no, intellectual laziness is not the problem...