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Ecclesiastes
01-12-2010, 13:49
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
mojaveman
01-12-2010, 13:57
I seem to remember that a lot of the guys used to dip snuff or chew tobacco. It was easier to use in that form when one was operating around aircraft or munitions. Versus a burning cigarette, smokeless tobacco doesn't give ones position away at night in a tactical enviroment. Chewing tobacco is also easier to use than cigarettes during inclimate weather.
I don't use nor advocate the use of tobacco products.
I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. ISOF, regardless of the branch, requires more desire than just a motivation to remain a non-smoker...it is a lifestyle of commitment, not a crutch...
Personally - I never smoked nor chewed tobacco products - both dull the senses and place you and your team at risk. MOO and YMMV.
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Ecclesiastes
01-12-2010, 15:51
Thank you all for your replies so far. I greatly appreciate it.
Dozer523
01-12-2010, 16:01
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere.. It's always good to get the first one out of the way as soon as possible, Darn there are people who have been here for years (with hundreds of posts) and not a single thread to their credit.
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units?
I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. No idea about the first part, but congratulations on the second part. As for motivation how about the living a little longer and better? I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I thought you wanted to quit. I'm not sure looking like an "operator" with a stogie hanging from the side of your mouth is going to be motivational. For real motivation why not put all the money saved toward something nice . . . say a weapon? I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. So looks like a little negative motivation is in order. Try this every time you touch a cig or dip (dip is worse) do push-ups until you collapse. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
Huh? Rules violation? Nah . . . not you. Your welcome.
I enjoyed many a good cigar after a mission, sometimes while sitting in the CSM's office, coffee with a little Jameson was always a nice touch, or was it, Jameson with a small touch of coffee, I can't remember.
I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit.
This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit. ;) I can now smell smoke from great distances.
Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.
I have been smoke free for 1 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (653 days). I have saved $2,286.42 by not smoking 13,065 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM
This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit. ;) I can now smell smoke from great distances.
Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.
That system would also work for those counting down the days, when your youngest is living the house. I thought of a watch that ran backwards, digital timer, for the empty nester crowd.
"We have 4 yrs., 2 months, 6 days, 12 hrs., 8 min., and 33, 32, 31, ... seconds until our youngest is 18, and mom and I are gone".
That system would also work for those counting down the days, when your youngest is living the house. I thought of a watch that ran backwards, digital timer, for the empty nester crowd.
"We have 4 yrs., 2 months, 6 days, 12 hrs., 8 min., and 33, 32, 31, ... seconds until our youngest is 18, and mom and I are gone".
Nice. You could also use something like the online clock showing the seconds ticking away until the next presidential election. :D
Nice. You could also use something like the online clock showing the seconds ticking away until the next presidential election. :D
The local tavern has one counting down the days until St. Patty's.
The local tavern has one counting down the days until St. Patty's.
Now we're talking! :lifter
Pat
p.s.: We have a countdown clock for our son letting him know how long it will be before we move into his house and he gets to change our diapers.
dadof18x'er
01-12-2010, 19:05
That system would also work for those counting down the days, when your youngest is living the house. I thought of a watch that ran backwards, digital timer, for the empty nester crowd.
"We have 4 yrs., 2 months, 6 days, 12 hrs., 8 min., and 33, 32, 31, ... seconds until our youngest is 18, and mom and I are gone".
I only have one left at home, I guess its really a sad time for me...they grow up so fast, but I know my # one son is in good hands out there in the "Q".:D
I only have one left at home, I guess its really a sad time for me...they grow up so fast, but I know my # one son is in good hands out there in the "Q".:D
Has your son checked it recently? How's he doing?
dadof18x'er
01-12-2010, 19:14
Has your son checked it recently? How's he doing?
he's in hold waiting for language class, I hope he don't slack off on his PT.
Mr Furious
01-12-2010, 19:15
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
Go ahead and google "nicotine + bone graft"; it should give some insight. In 2003, MG(R) Lambert during a visit down range asked me when I was going to quit that stuff (I dipped Copenhagen at the time). "Let me tell you something"...He shared with me that they were finding out that the guys who dipped or chewed that were going through recovery had a difficult time with their grafts taking. I checked it out, and found that some very extensive research has been conducted that proves the negative effects of nicotine on the healing process. Check it out for yourself.
mojaveman
01-12-2010, 19:43
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
A valid and possible option for quitting would be hypnotherapy. I've known a numer of people who have quit with this method. For it to be successful one has to go into the sessions with a positive attitude and an open mind. You might have to try several licensed hyponotherapists before you find one that can work successfully with you.
he's in hold waiting for language class, I hope he don't slack off on his PT.
He'll be fine, thanks for the update. Best to you and yours.
WD
I enjoyed many a good cigar after a mission, sometimes while sitting in the CSM's office, coffee with a little Jameson was always a nice touch, or was it, Jameson with a small touch of coffee, I can't remember.
I never smoked, but the motivation for most decisions is usually within, not external. Now to prove myself wrong, I read Jameson's (Thanks Wet Dog!) and I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.
:)
I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.
:)
Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
You want motivation to quit?
My dad smoked Marlboros all throughout his service and most of his life.
He's now 6 ft under in Arlington.
Your call.
Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
When I was a little guy with a bad cough. My grandmother would bring in two small glasses. One with hot lemon juice and honey, the other, a shot of Jameson. My grandfather would say, "now take the two drinks your grandma gave ya, one in each hand son, throw the lemon juice and honey over your left shoulder, the one in your right hand down ye throat".
Red Flag 1
01-12-2010, 21:47
A valid and possible option for quitting would be hypnotherapy. I've known a numer of people who have quit with this method. For it to be successful one has to go into the sessions with a positive attitude and an open mind. You might have to try several licensed hyponotherapists before you find one that can work successfully with you.
Smoked on and off for a 20pkyr. Cigarettes, cigars, and pipe; never did dip or chew. When it came time to quit, all the pills, patches, mirrors, crystals held over my head, support groups, etc were a wasted effort for me. I had to want to stop.
Where ever the motivation comes from, go with it. It has been many years now and it is easier. There are still days when the red Marlboro box just screams my name.
RF 1
When I was a little guy with a bad cough. My grandmother would bring in two small glasses. One with hot lemon juice and honey, the other, a shot of Jameson. My grandfather would say, "now take the two drinks your grandma gave ya, one in each hand son, throw the lemon juice and honey over your left shoulder, the one in your right hand down ye throat".
I wonder if our grandfathers were related... :D Whenever I'm ill the hot toddy has always worked its magic.
armymom1228
01-12-2010, 23:18
You want motivation to quit?
My dad smoked Marlboros all throughout his service and most of his life.
He's now 6 ft under in Arlington.
Your call.
Yeppers, my dad started smoking in College in the 1930's. He quit in November 1979 when my mom was dx with Glaucoma. He smoked Menthol cigarettes until he discovered, "between the acts". Tiny cigarette sized cigars. He swore he did not inhale them..yeah right sure... he lies.. He died 12/25/1996 @ 5:10am. Diagnosis, Lung Cancer. Do the math between quit and death. Dad is at Busnell (fl) national cemetary in an urn. I miss him every day of my life.
My mom has a "smokers cough" from being around 2nd hand smoke all her life.
My dtr smokes Nat Sherman hint of mint. I tried them not bad..but not worth $9.85/pack. I cannot imagine paying what they do now for cigarettes, even at commisary prices. :eek:
YMMV
AM
Buffalobob
01-13-2010, 06:59
Twenty years quit. Definitely a security issue in a combat zone. I still have my Zippo from RVN . Its all engraved up like they all were. Maybe us FOGs should start an engraved Zippo picture thread. Of course one would need to figure out how to do the macro focus thing.
alright4u
01-13-2010, 09:32
This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit. ;) I can now smell smoke from great distances.
Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.
I agree. The key to quitting anything is to become sufficiently disturbed with yourself to quit and never go back. No one quits anything until they are ready to quit for themself. I damn sure was not going to pay for SCHIP.
I wonder......
I'm thinking of quiting sex, cold turkey, can you send me the clock for smokers, we'll see how it works.....lol
My clock could look something like this in the future;
Upside:
I have been sex free for 3 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (1853 days). I have saved $232,286.42 by not having to have paid for 3,065 dinners. I have saved 20 years, 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM
Downside:
- Unfortunately the horror stories were correct, and I am now blind, and unfortunately my prick did fall off like my mother warned me as a child.
- Where I saved money on the dinners, I spent more on blowup dolls, DVD's and vaseline.
Buck
ZonieDiver
01-13-2010, 10:06
Buck - my coffee spewed on my laptop! You are one "sick puppy":D! Thanks.
armymom1228
01-13-2010, 10:27
I wonder......
I'm thinking of quiting sex, cold turkey, can you send me the clock for smokers, we'll see how it works.....lol
My clock could look something like this in the future;
Upside:
I have been sex free for 3 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (1853 days). I have saved $232,286.42 by not having to have paid for 3,065 dinners. I have saved 20 years, 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM
Downside:
- Unfortunately the horror stories were correct, and I am now blind, and unfortunately my prick did fall off like my mother warned me as a child.
- Where I saved money on the dinners, I spent more on blowup dolls, DVD's and vaseline.
Buck
I agree. The key to quitting anything is to become sufficiently disturbed with yourself to quit and never go back. No one quits anything until they are ready to quit for themself. I damn sure was not going to pay for SCHIP.
I am sufficiently disturbed with both of you... I am beginning to worry about you two. Someone owes me a keyboard and a new cup of cofee.
MMmmmmmm, oh yeah, you two are both 'special'. That says it all. :D:p:p
I am sufficiently disturbed with both of you... I am beginning to worry about you two. Someone owes me a keyboard and a new cup of cofee.
MMmmmmmm, oh yeah, you two are both 'special'. That says it all. :D:p:p
Heres my sign for proof :)
Buck - my coffee spewed on my laptop! You are one "sick puppy":D! Thanks.
LOL, trust me, I am not anymore sick then I was yesterday. Hope that coffee comes out of the keyboard...lol
Buck
mojaveman
01-13-2010, 12:06
I wonder......
I'm thinking of quiting sex, cold turkey, can you send me the clock for smokers, we'll see how it works.....lol
My clock could look something like this in the future;
Upside:
I have been sex free for 3 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (1853 days). I have saved $232,286.42 by not having to have paid for 3,065 dinners. I have saved 20 years, 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM
Downside:
- Unfortunately the horror stories were correct, and I am now blind, and unfortunately my prick did fall off like my mother warned me as a child.
- Where I saved money on the dinners, I spent more on blowup dolls, DVD's and vaseline.
Buck
You're perverted Buck,
But that's ok, we should get along just fine. :D
Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
As a child, had this with water , regular Jameson's and honey. Working in Ireland (Galway), the locals promptly corrected (trained) me. Add a bit of tea -- it is considered medicinal and switch to Jameson's Gold (known for honey/oak like taste). It was the drink for a cold, rainy evening at the pub on the off Guinness night. And after the 4th or 5th, you truly did not notice the cold and spirits were high.
Buck, you are on your own for your clock but I guess you knew that already ;-)
As a child, had this with water , regular Jameson's and honey. Working in Ireland (Galway), the locals promptly corrected (trained) me. Add a bit of tea -- it is considered medicinal and switch to Jameson's Gold (known for honey/oak like taste).
I stand corrected, and will promptly employ that method soonest. :D
FirstClass
01-14-2010, 00:39
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
Im not sure if this will help you, but I smoke possibly 1 cigar a month. Its a leisure activity. I have been doing this for three years now and have never been addicted to them. Perhaps if you can give up the addiction and use a cigar or pipe(pipes are great, btw, most of pipe tobacco is very light and most certainly will not create an unwanted habbit unless used in great excess) as more of a "special occasion" sort of thing. However, im not sure how difficult it would be to quit smoking, then revert back to it only trying to smoke once or a few times a month.
All things in moderation my friend, and know thyself.
greenberetTFS
01-14-2010, 13:06
As a child, had this with water , regular Jameson's and honey. Working in Ireland (Galway), the locals promptly corrected (trained) me. Add a bit of tea -- it is considered medicinal and switch to Jameson's Gold (known for honey/oak like taste). It was the drink for a cold, rainy evening at the pub on the off Guinness night. And after the 4th or 5th, you truly did not notice the cold and spirits were high.
Buck, you are on your own for your clock but I guess you knew that already ;-)
Jameson's Gold,what a lovely,lovely word...................;)
Big Teddy :munchin
Red Flag 1
01-14-2010, 13:38
Im not sure if this will help you, but I smoke possibly 1 cigar a month. Its a leisure activity. I have been doing this for three years now and have never been addicted to them. Perhaps if you can give up the addiction and use a cigar or pipe(pipes are great, btw, most of pipe tobacco is very light and most certainly will not create an unwanted habbit unless used in great excess) as more of a "special occasion" sort of thing. However, im not sure how difficult it would be to quit smoking, then revert back to it only trying to smoke once or a few times a month.
All things in moderation my friend, and know thyself.
Are you suggesting a person can give up the addiction and become a "leisure" user of tobacco?
RF 1
I pretty much quit smoking exept on deployments and JCETs for ice breakers and such. My two cents is if I gotta breath second hand smoke at a meet and greet, I might as well contribute what I can. :D
Other than that I don't smoke.
Utah Bob
01-14-2010, 16:57
Both my parents smoked. I don't know why I never picked it up. Then when i was assigned to the 10th I started smoking a pipe because i thought it woul make me look:
A. More German, and
B. Older
I was wrong on both counts.
Lost my pipe in the snow coming home drunk from the O club one night. Found it in the Spring but the urge had passed by then. Aged the pipe nicely though.
Both my folks died eventually. My mother in '98 from lung cancer and heart disease and my father in '07 from emphysema.
FirstClass
01-14-2010, 17:49
Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
"Im not sure if this will help you, but I smoke possibly 1 cigar a month. Its a leisure activity. I have been doing this for three years now and have never been addicted to them. Perhaps if you can give up the addiction and use a cigar or pipe(pipes are great, btw, most of pipe tobacco is very light and most certainly will not create an unwanted habbit unless used in great excess) as more of a "special occasion" sort of thing. However, im not sure how difficult it would be to quit smoking, then revert back to it only trying to smoke once or a few times a month."
Are you suggesting a person can give up the addiction and become a "leisure" user of tobacco?
RF 1
Perhaps I was not very eloquent. I have never been addicted to tobacco, therefor I am not sure whether it would be improbable or not for it to become a leisure activity. I do not know the temptations, however, if it is possible, this is a good way to cut the cake and eat it too.
Maybe this will help you...;)
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/new_anti_smoking_ads_warn_teens
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Perhaps I was not very eloquent. I have never been addicted to tobacco, therefor I am not sure whether it would be improbable or not for it to become a leisure activity. I do not know the temptations, however, if it is possible, this is a good way to cut the cake and eat it too.
For fear of being catagorized a possible Warrant Officer type, this question has multiple possible avenues; hence the memory, and mistake I once made, asking a Warrant Officer on my climbing team, which would be the most appropriate glove to bring on a climbing trip we were planning while I was in Toelz. 2 hours later I had no clue which I would take, all I remember was multiple uses of Wool, so I packed alot of wool crap.
So...
There are probably a few different catagories, with sub catagories of smokers:
"The Die Hard Smoker", or aka DHS. You'll always notice the yellow tint on his finger, with an actual grove worn into the corner of his mouth, where he places his favorite smoke.
"The Social Smoker" One who will never actually want people he doesn't know well to know he is a smoker, if asked, he'll say, well I smoke sometimes, mostly if I am drinking. Bullshit, he's a smoker
"The Closet Smoker".....ok, you get the point
You're either a smoker, IE, you smoke either ever minute, or every 30 days, or you're a non smoker, IE you don't smoke period
I only smoke when I drink, which is allowed...lol
Buck
tom kelly
01-15-2010, 06:15
I ouit smoking in Feb. 1960, Quit drinking Alcohol in 1990, in 2007 I qiut drinking any products with caffine, also stopped eating red meat,bread, butter and milk with fat, I now drink skim milk and slim fast. I had both knees replaced in Oct. 2008 & at the time weighed 238 lbs. I now weigh 185 lbs. The point is that if you have the mental discipline you can accomplish almost anything you want!
tom kelly
Ecclesiastes
01-18-2010, 00:45
Wow, great posts. Thank you everyone for such information!! It's motivating to hear some of the stories to keep me going! :lifter I'm gonna guess that not many people smoke in elite units like SF.. (not that there's anything wrong with smokers :D)
Habu-MFFI 175
01-18-2010, 18:47
I smoked for about 35 years. I use to love a pack of CAmel Lights....man those things were smoooooth...:D Several years back the doctor told my wife she needed to quit smoking because of a health problem. Well a that time I thought..what the heck. Quit and help her. I quit cold turkey 7 years ago and this coming May will be 8 years. I figured the patches, gums and kits were all a crutch and I didn't need a crutch...I need to quit.
Today if someone is smoking near me I pure gag...I have actually chocked and puked all over the place from the smell of the cigarette. No way will I start again.
I can smell someone that smokes if they walk by me. It sticks to there cloths and hair...really nasty smell. I never smelled that odor while I was smoking.
I definately feel better healty wise, but did put on some quick weight.
You will have to figure out for yourself if you want to quit or try something else to use as a crutch. Quit now and let the Q course and other training blow the nasty brown gunk out your lungs and feel better.
...I definately feel better healty wise, but did put on some quick weight...
Wondering what's the deal with this. Does the nicotine boost metabolism or something?
After 30 years of 2+ packs/day, I quit cold turkey on 1-19. Since then, I have gained approx 10#. Not a 'deal breaker' for sure, but it's a bit peculiar, since my eating habits have not changed much - if any.
Don't know If I signed up to become a roly-poly.
Was gonna leave this one alone as smokin is a personal life decsion no matter how it started or ended. But my respectful candid side won't let me stay out:rolleyes: This is trully a whiny thread.
First smoking has nothing to do with being special ops. You wanna smoke then do! you wanna quit then quit..... If your a candy ass and can't hang it won't make a shit wether your smoking or sucking pure O2.
I spent 25yrs smoking in the GB trenches all over the world. Ran, humped, skied, and swam all around me into the ground. I never guit anything in my life so not gonna start now :) Point is This may be the new army SF with cool sweat suits and expensive running sneakers and no smoking allowed. But they are no better or worse then some of the great warriors that ran around in boots and fatigues and smoked non filter camels or lucky strikes. cigs might kill me but the enemy couldn't so i'm Ok with that!
My best smoking buddy -- hell we would smoke in a snow cave, light up before and after a blistering 10miler in the mountains of colorado. Smoke in a LAR-V rebreather before a dive. smoke on the ramp of a plane before freefallin out. My buddy got his head blown off in Irag tell me what smokin had to do with that or him being one of the best SF guys i ever knew. Quit your whining and ruck up mister.
"I quess not many guys in elite units smoke" has got to be the dumbest least informed statement i have ever heard. Son you have gotten the wrong idea and others here have given that ill conceived impression to you.
Utah Bob
02-15-2010, 13:20
Wondering what's the deal with this. Does the nicotine boost metabolism or something?
After 30 years of 2+ packs/day, I quit cold turkey on 1-19. Since then, I have gained approx 10#. Not a 'deal breaker' for sure, but it's a bit peculiar, since my eating habits have not changed much - if any.
Don't know If I signed up to become a roly-poly.
Nicotine is a stimulant. it does boost your metabolism. And it's about as addicting as cocaine. Maybe a little more so.
I'm always amused by those who say they smoke because they like it.
Of course you like it. Your addicted brain is telling you you like it.
I remember an old Bob Newhart routine about the discovery of tobacco.
"And what do you do with this "Tobacco" Sir Walter?
Okay let me get this straight. You roll it up and stick it in your mouth?
Then what?
You set fire to it??":D
Are you suggesting a person can give up the addiction and become a "leisure" user of tobacco?.......
Yes, I did but my "leisure" is limited to a weekend only every couple of months. Sure not when I go out for a couple of beers - I might start back sliding.
I'd been smokin' about 6 years or so and the team had been raggin' on me to quit. We were on a two week or so FTX in western NC. One of the first mornings I said "OK, I quit" and one of the commo guys asked "Are you sure?" When I said yes he ran over grabbed all my smokes and stomped them into the ground.
I had chewed a bit before that and he was a big time Copenhagen dipper so he kept me buzzin' for the rest of the FTX. Got home and there was no place to spit so I didn't dip. A couple of weeks later we went to the range and Ernie H gave me a big 'ol dip. Got sicker than a dog, head all spinning and fell over.
After that I had no desire to smoke for recreation but did smoke now and again when I was chatting with a TS who smoked. Been that way ever since.
Red Flag 1
02-16-2010, 11:21
Pete,
I have always enjoyed a good smoke. Cigars, and MacBarrens pipe tobacco in a good Briar pipe still call to me. I can hold out for a while and be a "social smoker"; in the end....well.
Thomas J. Jackson, aka Stonewall Jackson, did not partake of spirits or tobacco but on rare occasions. When asked why, General Jackson would answer my saying, "I like it too much". I understand General Jackson's answer.
RF 1