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Richard
11-29-2009, 09:45
A piece of the on-going larger dialogue out there...and worth pondering.

Richard

America vs. The Narrative
Thomas Friedman, 29 Nov 2009

What should we make of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who apparently killed 13 innocent people at Fort Hood?

Here’s my take: Major Hasan may have been mentally unbalanced — I assume anyone who shoots up innocent people is. But the more you read about his support for Muslim suicide bombers, about how he showed up at a public-health seminar with a PowerPoint presentation titled “Why the War on Terror Is a War on Islam,” and about his contacts with Anwar al-Awlaki, a Yemeni cleric famous for using the Web to support jihadist violence against America — the more it seems that Major Hasan was just another angry jihadist spurred to action by “The Narrative.”

What is scary is that even though he was born, raised and educated in America, The Narrative still got to him.

The Narrative is the cocktail of half-truths, propaganda and outright lies about America that have taken hold in the Arab-Muslim world since 9/11. Propagated by jihadist Web sites, mosque preachers, Arab intellectuals, satellite news stations and books — and tacitly endorsed by some Arab regimes — this narrative posits that America has declared war on Islam, as part of a grand “American-Crusader-Zionist conspiracy” to keep Muslims down.

Yes, after two decades in which U.S. foreign policy has been largely dedicated to rescuing Muslims or trying to help free them from tyranny — in Bosnia, Darfur, Kuwait, Somalia, Lebanon, Kurdistan, post-earthquake Pakistan, post-tsunami Indonesia, Iraq and Afghanistan — a narrative that says America is dedicated to keeping Muslims down is thriving.

Although most of the Muslims being killed today are being killed by jihadist suicide bombers in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Indonesia, you’d never know it from listening to their world. The dominant narrative there is that 9/11 was a kind of fraud: America’s unprovoked onslaught on Islam is the real story, and the Muslims are the real victims — of U.S. perfidy.

Have no doubt: we punched a fist into the Arab/Muslim world after 9/11, partly to send a message of deterrence, but primarily to destroy two tyrannical regimes — the Taliban and the Baathists — and to work with Afghans and Iraqis to build a different kind of politics. In the process, we did some stupid and bad things. But for every Abu Ghraib, our soldiers and diplomats perpetrated a million acts of kindness aimed at giving Arabs and Muslims a better chance to succeed with modernity and to elect their own leaders.

The Narrative was concocted by jihadists to obscure that.

It’s working. As a Jordanian-born counterterrorism expert, who asked to remain anonymous, said to me: “This narrative is now omnipresent in Arab and Muslim communities in the region and in migrant communities around the world. These communities are bombarded with this narrative in huge doses and on a daily basis. [It says] the West, and right now mostly the U.S. and Israel, is single-handedly and completely responsible for all the grievances of the Arab and the Muslim worlds. Ironically, the vast majority of the media outlets targeting these communities are Arab-government owned — mostly from the Gulf.”

This narrative suits Arab governments. It allows them to deflect onto America all of their people’s grievances over why their countries are falling behind. And it suits Al Qaeda, which doesn’t need much organization anymore — just push out The Narrative over the Web and satellite TV, let it heat up humiliated, frustrated or socially alienated Muslim males, and one or two will open fire on their own. See: Major Hasan.

“Liberal Arabs like me are as angry as a terrorist and as determined to change the status quo,” said my Jordanian friend. The only difference “is that while we choose education, knowledge and success to bring about change, a terrorist, having bought into the narrative, has a sense of powerlessness and helplessness, which are inculcated in us from childhood, that lead him to believe that there is only one way, and that is violence.”

What to do? Many Arab Muslims know that what ails their societies is more than the West, and that The Narrative is just an escape from looking honestly at themselves. But none of their leaders dare or care to open that discussion. In his Cairo speech last June, President Obama effectively built a connection with the Muslim mainstream. Maybe he could spark the debate by asking that same audience this question:

“Whenever something like Fort Hood happens you say, ‘This is not Islam.’ I believe that. But you keep telling us what Islam isn’t. You need to tell us what it is and show us how its positive interpretations are being promoted in your schools and mosques. If this is not Islam, then why is it that a million Muslims will pour into the streets to protest Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, but not one will take to the streets to protest Muslim suicide bombers who blow up other Muslims, real people, created in the image of God? You need to explain that to us — and to yourselves.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/opinion/29friedman.html?pagewanted=print

Warrior-Mentor
11-29-2009, 12:30
Interesting, you don't see ANY Islamic Religious Leaders writing books like this...

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Happiness-Handbook-Living/dp/1573221112

But it's a "Religion of Peace." :rolleyes:

Box
11-29-2009, 19:54
...thats because none of them want to say exactly what Islam "is"...


"what does 'is' mean" anyway?

The antihero
11-30-2009, 09:31
I very much agree with the author of the article but I cannot do but wonder, is he realizing that just now?

This is pretty much what people like me has claimed since 9/11. The real problem is now that in eight years "The Narrative" has taken hold of the minds of many westerners as well, especially here in Europe I tell you.

Sigaba
12-09-2009, 02:41
Is what Mr. Friedman termed "the Narrative" an iteration of anti-Americanism?

If we focus primarily on shutting down "the Narrative" in the Islamic world, might we inadvertently strengthen other versions of "the Narrative" (such as the one offered by Communists)?

Richard
12-11-2009, 08:24
Listening to "The Narrative"...

The five US citizens arrested this week in Pakistan shed light on a growing trend: More US citizens appear to be joining global jihad. Pakistan is taking steps to clamp down.

And so it goes...

Richard

Are more US citizens joining jihad?
Carol Huang, CSM, 10 Dec 2009

The arrest of five Americans in Pakistan seeking to join jihad has drawn further attention to a trend of Westerners coming here to sit at the feet of veteran Islamist fighters, then plot terror attacks at home or wherever else their passports allow them to travel.

But Wednesday’s arrests also show that Pakistani authorities are paying more attention to the threat and taking steps to clamp down, even if they are not taking on the local jihadi groups themselves.

The five US citizens – three of them of Pakistani origin – were arrested Wednesday in a home linked to militant group Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), in the town of Sargodha in southern Punjab Province.

The arrests are just the latest evidence of American Muslims seeking to use militant training received in Pakistan to plot or help execute terror attacks. American David Headley pled not guilty in a Chicago courtroom on Wednesday to charges he scouted locations for last year’s Mumbai terror attack, which killed 174 people. Najibullah Zazi, arrested in September, faces trial for allegedly plotting a bomb attack in New York.

“It seems [the Pakistani authorities] have become more conscious of this international dimension of these groups based in Punjab,” says Hassan Askari Rizvi, a security analyst based in Lahore. “From this case it seems they are pursuing and quietly monitoring who goes on there, who meets with them,” a practice “which may not have been there in the past.”

Closely followed, then arrested

According to officials cited in media reports, the police began tracking the Americans from the moment they flew into Karachi last month. The five men then journeyed to Hyderabad, back to Karachi, then Lahore, and finally Sargodha.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is trying to determine if these men are the same Americans who went missing in Virginia in November and left behind an alarming video saying that Muslims needed to be defended. It did not mention specific plans but appeared to be a “farewell,” said Nihad Awad, the head of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who is working with the men’s families.

The men said Thursday that they had come to participate in jihad, Sargodha Police Chief Javed Islam told the Associated Press. It wasn’t clear if they had made contact with militant groups yet.

Countless local militants remain free

For each American arrested, however, many times more Pakistani militants spread across the Punjab remain untouched. The province, especially in the south, plays hosts to several long-established militant groups, including JeM, Lashkar-e-Taiba (the group linked to the Mumbai attacks, whose training camps Mr. Headley reportedly attended), Sipah-e-Sahaba, and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. In the 1980s and 90s, many of these organizations were cultivated by the government to fight the Indians in Kashmir or the Soviets in Afghanistan. Some are now legally banned, but operate freely and retain popular support.

The authorities “will restrict their activities, but it’s difficult to say they will get rid of these groups because these groups have developed strong, vital links [in society]. They always have quiet sympathizers,” says Mr. Rizvi. “There’s a serious problem of political will because of domestic fallout.”

The Army is also reluctant to open too many fronts against militants at once, especially in the country’s Punjab heartland. For the past half year it has committed tens of thousands of soldiers to fight Pakistani Taliban factions operating in the northwest, first in the Swat Valley and now, since October, in the South Waziristan tribal area.

Another reason for hesitation is that the Punjabi groups have not attacked the state as brazenly as the Taliban have. Taliban groups have set up de facto governments in the northwest and have fought Army efforts to reclaim these areas. They have also launched bomb attacks in major cities, and in recent months more Punjabis have joined the Taliban fight.

Intelligence officials “know who are these groups and where they are based but they do tolerate these groups as long as they don’t create problems for the government,” says Rizvi.

Hosting Americans, however, is a problem, he says, because it “creates embarrassment” for the government.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/1210/five-americans-arrested-in-pakistan-are-more-us-citizens-joining-jihad

Dozer523
12-11-2009, 08:34
Is what Mr. Friedman termed "the Narrative" an iteration of anti-Americanism?

If we focus primarily on shutting down "the Narrative" in the Islamic world, might we inadvertently strengthen other versions of "the Narrative" (such as the one offered by Communists)? Can't we agree that the "Communist Narrative" has pretty much debunked itself? But, your point is taken (if I get your drift). Maybe we have to replace the their "Narrative" with the "American Narrative". I guess that would be the truth that lives up to what we espouse in our Declaration and Constitution.