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DemoMan
11-25-2009, 11:26
I got this in a forwarded email

Subject: 95 Year Old WWII Battleship Sailor Tells OBAMA to "Shape Up or Ship Out!""]

One of the better letters you will read today (maybe this year).


This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii

for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes

all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body,

he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now.

He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the
president.


Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year.
People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain
wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and
after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest
home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive
the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind,
blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but
you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.

You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies
like:

" We're no longer a Christian nation"

" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even

announced to the world,"America is mean-

spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching

that nonsense to 23 generations of our

war dead buried all over the globe who

died for no other reason than to free a

whole lot of strangers from tyranny and

hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do
I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts
this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a
dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000
farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or
maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000
men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000
fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for
in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us
around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than
discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people
understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I
can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue.
You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of
murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to
conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow
soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you
did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in
Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the
police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics
by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to
defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now,
son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for
40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're
not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is
not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge
ever presented to any president.

You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated
economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who
we are as Americans is our big fight now.

And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this
final battle.

Sincerely,

Harold B. Estes

Red Flag 1
11-25-2009, 11:36
We said Harold Estes!!!!

Great post DM!!

RF 1

echoes
11-25-2009, 13:45
Outstanding Letter!:lifter Very well said from a Real American Hero, a Veteran!

Can only hope that the ideals surmised in this letter will not die off with the passing of our WWII Veterans...and hope that Our current Veterans know that there are still Americans that are standing behind them, for their bravery, courage, and sacrifice!

Holly

Tatonka316
11-25-2009, 16:09
I too got this letter and forwarded it onto my email list. I did not go to check the authenticity - mostly because I don't want to know that it is not for real - but we might want to have someone check the sources to see about it. That is WAY beyond my skill set?!?!

molon labe:lifter

Sdiver
11-25-2009, 16:14
I too got this letter and forwarded it onto my email list. I did not go to check the authenticity - mostly because I don't want to know that it is not for real - but we might want to have someone check the sources to see about it. That is WAY beyond my skill set?!?!

molon labe:lifter

It's a pretty hot topic on the inter-net now.

Just goggle "Harold B. Estes" and you'll come back with quit a few hits.

Snopes.com has it on their site, and says they're "looking" into the authenticity of it. But all know how snopes.com rolls. :rolleyes:

Costa
11-30-2009, 12:04
I just got this from my mom the other day. I hope it gains more media coverage but we all know about wishing in one hand....

Snaquebite
11-30-2009, 12:15
I too got this letter and forwarded it onto my email list. I did not go to check the authenticity - mostly because I don't want to know that it is not for real - but we might want to have someone check the sources to see about it. That is WAY beyond my skill set?!?!

molon labe:lifter

It's real....
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/haroldestes.asp

http://www.forenaftmagazine.com/fna_may2005.pdf

Tatonka316
11-30-2009, 13:28
Thanks, Snakebite! I may actually have met him in Honolulu one time when I was out visiting my youngest son!!! Let's hope this gets out even more - I will do my part!!!

molon labe:lifter