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Warrior-Mentor
11-04-2009, 16:11
Lisbon Treaty: more of Britain's powers surrendered to Brussels
Britain's power to govern itself is to be surrendered increasingly to Brussels after the European Union’s Lisbon Treaty was finally ratified.


James Kirkup and Bruno Waterfield
Telegraph
03 Nov 2009

The treaty, which will come into force within a few weeks, will create the first president of Europe, as well as a European foreign minister, and will end Britain’s right to veto new EU rules in more than 40 policy areas.

The treaty's supporters say it will allow the EU to operate more efficiently and give it greater influence in world affairs.

Vaclav Klaus, the President of the Czech Republic, yesterday signed the Lisbon Treaty, ending eight years of resistance to its attempt to give more power to the EU.

The Czechs are the last of the 27 EU states to sign the treaty, and their move forced the Conservatives to abandon their pledge to hold a British referendum on Lisbon.

William Hague, the shadow foreign secretary, said it was “a bad day for British democracy”.

David Cameron, the Conservative leader, will today set out plans for an alternative Tory pledge to renegotiate several parts of Britain’s EU membership, trying to win back control over social and employment laws.

It is understood that one of Mr Cameron's options will be to guarantee a referendum for British voters under a Tory government if any more national powers were in danger of being ceded to Brussels.

Mr Cameron’s retreat on announcing a referendum on the newly ratified treaty has led to accusations of breaking his promise and betraying the British people.

The Lisbon Treaty is based on the European Constitution, which started at a summit in Brussels in December 2001.

Gordon Brown hailed the Czech signature as “a historic step,” and European leaders said it will create a more powerful EU.

Despite the scale of the changes the treaty makes, the British people have never been directly consulted on the document, which was ratified in a Commons vote and signed by Mr Brown in 2007.

Labour won the 2005 general election having promised a referendum on the European Constitution but then dropped the pledge, arguing that Lisbon was a different document.

The Conservatives gave a “cast-iron” guarantee of a vote on Lisbon.

But after Mr Klaus signed the text, the Tories admitted that they will not offer voters a say on Lisbon.

Mr Hague said that once ratified, the treaty will cease to exist as a distinct legal document, meaning no vote can be held on it.

He said: “Now that the treaty has become European law and is going to enter into force, that means that a referendum can no longer prevent the creation of the president of the European council, the loss of British national vetoes, these things will already have happened, and a referendum cannot unwind them or prevent them.”

Daniel Hannan, a Tory MEP and leading Euro-sceptic said the signing was a step towards a European super-state. “The boot continues to stamp on the human face,” he said.

Mr Hague last night attempted to blame Labour for the treaty’s passage. He said: “People have never been consulted or voted in a general election for this.

"The British people have never even voted once, and we will not let people forget whose responsibility that is.”

Mr Brown insisted that the signing of the treaty was something to celebrate.

He said: “Today is a day when Europe looks forward, when it sets aside years of debate on its institutions, and moves to take strong and collective action on the issues that matter most to European citizens: security, climate change, jobs and growth.”

Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, said that the treaty means “The EU will become stronger and more capable of acting.”

One of the most visible changes the treaty makes is the creation of a new permanent president for the EU, who will chair European summits and set the union’s agenda.

EU leaders will now meet at a special summit later this month to pick a president. Mr Brown has been backing Tony Blair’s bid for the job, but EU leaders have turned against the former premier.

Instead of a high-profile president, European leaders are now leaning towards a low-key “chairman” for the job. Herman Van Rompuy of Belgian and Jan Peter Balkenende are the current favourites.

The treaty will give the EU many of the trappings of a nation-state, including its own foreign minister – officially titled the high representative for foreign affairs – and an “External Action Service,” effectively a European diplomatic corps.

David Miliband, the foreign secretary, is leading candidate for the EU foreign policy job.

Jose Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, said that the signing of the treaty would allow the EU to start acting as a global player. “The new external profile for the European Union will be felt immediately," he said.

Joseph Daul, a French MEP close to Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, said the decision meant more collective EU action.

“Europe can now move forward,” he said. “The Treaty will allow effective European action in areas where solutions are urgent, such as the financial and economic crisis, climate change and energy”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6496336/Lisbon-Treaty-more-of-Britains-powers-surrendered-to-Brussels.html

Warrior-Mentor
11-04-2009, 16:13
"The game takes a new twist.....

"I ask all commited patriots to think hard about what will happen next. Now that Lisbon has been signed and comes into force within two weeks the next stage of the EU destruction of Free Europe will be to push for Turkish entry into the EU. We must fight against this. Allowing SEVENTY FOUR MILLION moslems into the EU, with no borders in Europe we will be allowing them freedom to move about at will, come and go anywhere is frankly suicide for this country and our other European brothers such as France, German, The Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland and Denmark. Numerically we will see an influx similar to that of January 2005 when tens of thousands of Poles came to the UK.

"Think of the problems we have with the 3m moslems we have now. . .

"The traitor government of the day, which will probably be a Tory one by the time this happens, will give us false figures of the amount coming in. We must stay vigilant; some of you may argue that the Turks are a secular society, that they are in fact less Islamised than parts of our own country and it may in fact be "Ok" to let these rather more friendly Moslems into our country, perhaps you say they may tame the radicals. But as anyone who has studied the moslem will confess, it is the radical that sets the tone for the others to follow. However friendly Moslem Turkey is, do not believe this is anything other than a clever front to make their entry into the EU more “palatable” to the rest of Europe. We all know as soon as they are in the will relax the rules at home, and the ones that come here will of course be invited to be less secular and in fact embrace their "faith" in the UK.

"Turkey is dangerous, period. Not as a military or economic threat by her 74m Moslems. All secular means is that they do not have an official state religion, unlike this country which might not seem as such but is in fact a Protestant Christian one. A fact our so called “leaders” would do well to remember once in a while. Look at how the Turkish are being pushed on our French friends, a country whose people voted in a majority AGAINST the Lisbon treaty."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=eiffel-tower-lits-up-to-celebrate-turkish-season--2009-09-15

"Remember several things. Turkey, as the Ottoman empire was the last Islamic caliphate and that Turkey as part of the EU will put Europe’s gates far to the East with countries such as Iraq and terrorist sponsors such as Syria and Iran, the latter of which already wages a low intensity war against the west and Israel via Hamas and other Islamic Jihadi fighter groups. Does anybody really think Turkey will keep a safe and secure border? They have been fighting a border war with Iraqi Kurds for decades. The Kurds cross into Turkey with little or no opposition and have staged major attacks on Turkish military and civilian installations. If they cannot keep them out how will they keep out Al Qaeda?

"Given the previous events in Eastern Europe, when the borders opened to the workers to come to the West countries such as Poland experienced an influx from their own east of people to replace the workers they had lost. If this happens with Turkey it will bring even more Moslems into Europe, many of which will certainly cross into the western areas.

"In closing I believe the fight to keep Turkey well and truly out of Europe is an integral part of this country’s fight against militant Islam, and Islamisation in general. The mass arrival of Turkish moslems could be the endgame, and we as committed patriots should do all we can to make sure this does not happen. As always the good people of the St George division will be at the very tip of the ideological spear. We must take this campaign on. In two weeks Lisbon will be in effect and you will see how the EU starts to push for the entry of the Turks will begin.

"Stand fast my brothers and sisters!

"European, Australian/NZ American, Canadian and Israeli solidarity against the
Islamist threat"

Shalom and God bless!
Your friends,
EDL: St George Division

bandycpa
11-04-2009, 16:20
Despite the scale of the changes the treaty makes, the British people have never been directly consulted on the document, which was ratified in a Commons vote and signed by Mr Brown in 2007.

Labour won the 2005 general election having promised a referendum on the European Constitution but then dropped the pledge, arguing that Lisbon was a different document.

The Conservatives gave a “cast-iron” guarantee of a vote on Lisbon.

But after Mr Klaus signed the text, the Tories admitted that they will not offer voters a say on Lisbon.



Sounds awfully familiar. The dots are starting to make a pattern.


Bandy

6.8SPC_DUMP
12-03-2009, 06:45
One Conservative British journalist's reaction:

At midnight last night, the United Kingdom ceased to be a sovereign state (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100018459/at-midnight-last-night-the-united-kingdom-ceased-to-be-a-sovereign-state/)

We woke up in a different country today. Alright, it doesn’t look very different. The trees still seem black against the winter sun; the motorways continue to jam inexplicably; commuters carry on avoiding eye contact. But Britain is no longer a sovereign nation. At midnight last night, we ceased to be an independent state, bound by international treaties to other independent states, and became instead a subordinate unit within a European state.

Yes, a European state. Take a quick dekko at the definition set out in Article One of the 1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States: “The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.”

Until yesterday, the EU qualified on grounds (a), (b) and (c). Now it has ticked the final box. Under the Lisbon Treaty, which came into force today, it acquires “legal personality”, which gives it the right to sign accords and treat with other states. Nor is this right simply theoretical: the EU now has a foreign minister, a diplomatic corps (the European External Action Service) and 160 overseas embassies.

Until yesterday, the EU could not annex additional policy areas without a new treaty, which needed to be ratified by all its constituent nations. Now, it has the so-called “passerelle” clause, or self-amending mechanism. Parliament, in other words, no longer has the final say on extensions of EU jurisdiction. The EU derives its authority, not from its 27 members, but from its own foundational texts.

Until yesterday, Britain could simply walk out of the EU by abrogating the Treaty of Rome and repealing the 1972 European Communities Act. Henceforth, it will have to go through the secession procedure laid down in Lisbon. In other words – in the minds of Euro-lawyers, at any rate, if not of British constitutionalists – the EU gets to settle the terms on which its members are allowed to leave. Formal sovereignty has been shifted from the national capitals to Brussels.

It is appalling, demeaning, disgraceful that such a thing should have been done without popular consent, and in the absence of the referendum that all three parties had promised. “There’s no point in crying over spilt milk,” you might say. True. But there is every point in mopping it up.