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Who makes the best type of saftey rounds for in house or serious social work?
Gents your views
The Reaper
07-19-2004, 15:58
Originally posted by larfive
Who makes the best type of saftey rounds for in house or serious social work?
Gents your views
IMHO, the LeMas.
TR
Any shotshell loaded with #8 or 9 shot
NousDefionsDoc
07-19-2004, 16:55
Originally posted by Air.177
Any shotshell loaded with #8 or 9 shot
You got a quail problem in your crib?
Hey man, a hi brass #8 or 9 field load from across a living room or down a hall should take care of damn near anything you could need to shoot inside your own home. With the small pellets being less likely to go through more than one layer of wallboard, much less anyone on the other side of the wall.
NousDefionsDoc
07-19-2004, 17:13
Ok, ok, no need to yell at me. I meant crib as in home, not as in baby crib.
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Ok, ok, no need to yell at me. I meant crib as in home, not as in baby crib.
That was evident, Thank you
The weapons would be for pistol 9mm and .45, and the shotgun is a remington 870 and a super benelli 90m3
The Reaper
07-25-2004, 13:39
Range for the shotgun work?
TR
Originally posted by larfive
Who makes the best type of saftey rounds for in house or serious social work?
Gents your views
If you would please, what would be the operational requirements of safety rounds for in house, and how would that be compared to the operational requirements of ammuntion for serious social work?
Originally posted by The Reaper
Range for the shotgun work?
TR
Negative sir, HD.
The Reaper
07-26-2004, 09:22
Originally posted by larfive
Negative sir, HD.
Let me rephrase.
At what distance do you anticipate using the shotgun?
TR
Oh roger,
5-7meters. You gave me information, thanks again for squaring me away. Ill test it out on the range.
LarV
I've been carrying/shooting .45 ACP hydrashoks, but I see that the APLP/Lemas is highly favored.
Is there a way to purchase a lot of this ammunition for carry?
Regards
Originally posted by Alex F
I've been carrying/shooting .45 ACP hydrashoks, but I see that the APLP/Lemas is highly favored.
Is there a way to purchase a lot of this ammunition for carry?
Regards
Good question Alex,
TR, APLP, or Guy would best be able to answer that one. Gents?
The Reaper
08-17-2004, 12:00
I will defer to APLP on who he can sell to.
A non-AP enhanced civilian version of the ammo is marketed by RBCD, IIRC, their site is www.rbcd.net
APLP may also be able to speak on the legalities of the ammo, but I do not believe that any of the versions fall under the statutes regarding AP ammo.
HTH.
TR
90 and 115 grain bullets in a .45?
http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense%20Ammo.htm
Interesting...
Thanks for the link TR.
The Reaper
08-17-2004, 13:14
Originally posted by Alex F
90 and 115 grain bullets in a .45?
http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense%20Ammo.htm
Interesting...
Thanks for the link TR.
I cannot say what the commercial loads will do, but from a 3.5" Para P12 at 7 yards, every round of the 90gr. LeMas will cleanly hole a 1/4" hardened aluminum armor plate, or a 11 ga. Stainless steel panel.
FYI, 230 gr. Hydrashock will barely make a mark on the aluminum, and will moderately dent, but not penetrate the stainless.
Good stuff!
TR
I was reading some of the testimonials on their site, and it looks to be very popular among the professionals.
Now to find a stocking dealer....
The Reaper
08-17-2004, 18:05
I have posted these before, but here is the LeMas and Hydrashok shots on aluminum armor, from the Para P-12 3.5" barrel.
HTH explain better.
TR
The Reaper
08-17-2004, 18:06
Here are the same loads on stainless steel plate.
TR
The Reaper
08-17-2004, 18:36
Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?
If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'!
TR
Roguish Lawyer
08-17-2004, 19:37
Originally posted by The Reaper
Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?
If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'!
TR
I will take your word for it, but I'd like to see the video again too! :)
Originally posted by The Reaper
Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?
If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'!
TR
I'm a believer. I wish I could purchase some of this stuff. Too bad former military don't count as end users. :(
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I will take your word for it, but I'd like to see the video again too! :)
Speaking of wanting to see a video... :D
The Reaper
08-18-2004, 10:04
Sorry, can't currently be posted due to site restrictions.
Got someone working on it.
It is a VERY impressive MP-5SD full auto clip.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
08-18-2004, 10:11
Originally posted by Razor
Speaking of wanting to see a video... :D
As soon as we catch someone, we'll get a clip posted. Surveillance is underway!
Originally posted by The Reaper
Here are the same loads on stainless steel plate.
TR
DAMMMMMM!!!!!!
Im sold on the Lemas!!! I will definately make them apart of my basic load. Thanks TR
The Reaper
08-18-2004, 19:17
Fixed, thanks, Dan.
Here is the link to the video.
What do you guys think? Anyone else think they have a pistol round that will do that?
TR
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/files/9mm_cqb_hard_armor.wmv
shadowflyer
08-18-2004, 19:28
Originally posted by The Reaper
Fixed, thanks, Dan.
Here is the link to the video.
What do you guys think? Anyone else think they have a pistol round that will do that?
TR
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/files/9mm_cqb_hard_armor.wmv
NO....thank goodness the APLP/LeMas guys are on our side ...that is some scary stuff from a 9mm...cut through that armor like a hot knife through butter.
Out-freaking-standing.
Die terrorist bastards.