Postal supervisors: Obama swipe “a kick to the chest”

[JJ_BPK]

Lucy,, splain this to me??? Cause it sure don't make any cents to me...

POTUS is/was/"use to be" a staunch supporter of a National Single Player Health care system.

He and other have touted how the Gov can bring much needed insurance to the poor at lower prices than the current insurance industry.

He has bad mouth'd the insurance industry as bloated, over-priced, wasteful.

But He also says the current system can work with HIS new system..

As an example in his "town meeting" he touts FedEx & UPS working with the US Postal System...

Read the text,,

“UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. … It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.”

Dah... Sounds like he just said we don't want the Gov running our insurance as the Bureaucrats are incapable and the Unions are to blame???

PS: I support SMALL government and less taxes...


http://www.federaltimes.com/federal-times-blog/2009/08/17/postal-supervisors-obama-swipe-a-kick-in-the-chest/

Postal supervisors: Obama swipe “a kick to the chest”, August 17th, 2009 | Posted by Stephen Losey Email: slosey@atpco.com About: See Authors Posts (74)

The National Association of Postal Supervisors has fired back at President Barack Obama for dragging the U.S. Postal Service further into the health care debate. In an Aug. 14 letter, NAPS President Ted Keating accused Obama of using the Postal Service as a “scapegoat” and unfairly painting it as “an example of inefficiency” during a health care town hall meeting last week.

Obama told a crowd in Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11 that private health care insurance providers should be able to compete with a government-run public option because “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. … It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.”

Keating pointed out that UPS and FedEx revenues are falling faster than Postal Service revenues, and reiterated the overtime, management and work hour reductions the Postal Service has made over the last year:

With all of these efforts underway within the Postal Service community, it was a kick to the chest to have you take a shot at a group of federal employees who are working hard every day to support this country.

Employees of the Postal Service are largely represented by unions and management associations, all of whom strongly supported your candidacy last year. For our support we do not expect any special consideration. However, we would like to be treated fairly and not have our current situation misrepresented, especially by the Commander-in-Chief.

What Obama also ignored last week was that the Postal Service isn’t on the same playing field as FedEx or UPS. The Postal Service has to contend with unions, lawmakers and the Postal Regulatory Commission and as a result, can’t raise prices or close facilities on a whim the way its private-sector counterparts can when mail volume plunges.

Comment: This last statement is very telling..

My $00.0002

[Pete]

I do believe the USPS has a lock on first class mail - by law.

I do believe the USPS has a lock on your mailbox out on the street - by law.

I wonder what would happen to the USPS if FedEx and UPS could compete for first class mail delivery and just stick it in the mailbox as they drove by?

Stood in line for 1/2 hour to get my car tag on Monday. Government office.

Stand in a long line every time I need something at the Post Office. Government Office.

More government is the solution?

[DbeforeD]

Burt Gummer to the government officials- “you guys do what you do best, find something simple and complicate it” – Tremors 3.

[Sten]

I do believe the USPS has a lock on first class mail - by law.

I do believe the USPS has a lock on your mailbox out on the street - by law.

I wonder what would happen to the USPS if FedEx and UPS could compete for first class mail delivery and just stick it in the mailbox as they drove by?

Stood in line for 1/2 hour to get my car tag on Monday. Government office.

Stand in a long line every time I need something at the Post Office. Government Office.

More government is the solution?

To be fair, I stood in a huge line at the "UPS store" to mail a box. I waited 2 hours in a Doctors office a few weeks ago. Then I was in and out of my local DMV with no wait at all.

[Pete]

.... I waited 2 hours in a Doctors office a few weeks ago. ........

And you still use that Dr.?

[Richard]

Stood in line for 1/2 hour to get my car tag on Monday. Government office.

My renewal's come in the mail - I send a check and a copy of my insurance card - it's returned with a new tag within 2 weeks.

Driver's license can also be renewed on-line here. :)

Stand in a long line every time I need something at the Post Office. Government Office.

The APCs (Automated Postal Center) we have in our post offices around here are the best thing they've ever done - they're accessible 24/7 and I now arrange my postal activities to use them and avoid the typically slow lines at the postal counters.

More government is the solution?

Nope - but better government should certainly be a part of the solution. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

[Sten]

And you still use that Dr.?

The best GI doc in town, I don't really have a choice.

[Pete]

.........Nope - but better government should certainly be a part of the solution. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Government - an example

My PO Box Renewal comes in the mail to my PO Box. Comes once a year for the last 15 years. Write a check, stick it in the pre-paid mailer, it's returned to my branch and I'm good to go for the next year.

The last time I did it I was going by the desk to the drop slot and a worker at the counter said "I take that for you" so I handed him the few letters. He saw the PO box envelope and tore it open. As I was fixin' to go out the door he said "Wait a minute, I'll need to see your drivers license."

I asked "Why" and he said since I was paying with a check he needed to see my drivers license. I said that if I would have dropped it in the slot or if he had waited to open it until after I had walked out he would not have seen my license. Didn't matter, it was in his hand so I needed to show my license.

Another time my truck registration failed to show up at the house and the tag expired. I called down to the DMV and asked what happened. They said they mailed it to my home in Washington, DC. I explained to them that I had never lived in DC and to change it back to where it had been coming for over the past decade.

The worker said they couldn't do that, I had to come down and change it in person. I asked if you had to change it in person how did it get changed in the first place. The worker said somebody must have made a mistake. So I asked them to undo the mistake. Can't do that, have to come down and do it in person. Round and round we go but rules are rules.

Both were good government employees.

[Richard]

Both were good government employees.

Pete - LOL - some fine examples of the size 2 hat minions who always seem to find careers in bureaucracies. ;)

Richard

[Praetorian]

I do believe the USPS has a lock on first class mail - by law.

I do believe the USPS has a lock on your mailbox out on the street - by law.

I wonder what would happen to the USPS if FedEx and UPS could compete for first class mail delivery and just stick it in the mailbox as they drove by?

Stood in line for 1/2 hour to get my car tag on Monday. Government office.

Stand in a long line every time I need something at the Post Office. Government Office.

More government is the solution?

Yep..... The Government is the only entity allowed to have a monopoly in this country.... And whats worse than the average "accidental monopoly" is that we are FORCED to support those monopolies (through the taxation to supplement them above and beyond the fee they charge for the service they render) whether you use the service or not.... And yet with no competition, total control over price and forced patronage, THEY STILL CANT RUN IN THE BLACK????

[VVVV]

You guys still write checks???

:munchin

[Richard]

Yep..... The Government is the only entity allowed to have a monopoly in this country.... And whats worse than the average "accidental monopoly" is that we are FORCED to support those monopolies (through the taxation to supplement them above and beyond the fee they charge for the service they render) whether you use the service or not.... And yet with no competition, total control over price and forced patronage, THEY STILL CANT RUN IN THE BLACK????

Wonder how much it really costs to transport a letter merely using a 'Forever' stamp from a family in Nome, Alaska, to their relative serving in Mirabad, Afghanistan? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

[VVVV]

Wonder how much it really costs to transport a letter merely using a 'Forever' stamp from a family in Nome, Alaska, to their relative serving in Mirabad, Afghanistan? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Since the DOD is involved, I would guess about $100.00:eek:

[Dad]

the USPS will deliver 27,000,000,000 fewer pieces of mail this year, primarily due to e-mails. That is what is killing them

[Utah Bob]

You guys still write checks???

:munchin


People in this neck of the woods Love checks for some reason. Always at least 3 people in front of me at Walmart with checks. ASt least their registers make it faster these days.
The absolute peak and icing on the fiscal cake of this ancient custom came at the 4th of July fireworks at the local high school football field. I went to the concession stand for refreshments. The guy ahead of me wrote a check for 2 hot dogs and 2 cokes! They took it without batting an eye. The local hardware store won't take plastic at all.
It's a little on the rural side here.

[Gypsy]

“UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. … It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.”

Dah... Sounds like he just said we don't want the Gov running our insurance as the Bureaucrats are incapable and the Unions are to blame???



Exactly. Oh, the irony. :D

His teleprompter must have broke. Either that or he's been hanging around Biden too much.