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Team Sergeant
08-03-2009, 09:56
Terrorism = Premeditated, politically and religiously motivated violence... = islam

I wonder when America will stop "allowing" religious terrorism.
Soon the US Military will leave Afghanistan, Iraq and the middle east.
When that happens you can count on the next bombs exploding will be on American soil. Don't call me, I'll be fishing.

Team Sergeant


Christian Family Burned to Death in Pakistan After Koran is 'Defiled'
Monday, August 03, 2009

Paramilitary troops patrolled the streets of a town in eastern Pakistan yesterday after Muslim radicals burned to death eight members of a Christian family, raising fears of violence spreading to other areas.

Hundreds of armed supporters of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, an outlawed Islamic militant group, burned dozens of Christian homes in Gojra over the weekend after allegations that a copy of the Koran had been defiled.

The mob opened fire indiscriminately, threw petrol bombs and looted houses as thousands of frightened Christians ran for safety. “They were shouting anti-Christian slogans and attacked our houses,” Rafiq Masih, a resident of the predominantly Christian colony, said. Residents said that police stood aside while the mob went on the rampage. “We kept begging for protection, but police did not take action,” Mr Masih said.

Police and local officials said that at least eight people, including four women and a child, were killed in the fires. Two others died of gunshot wounds. Residents said that the casualties were much higher; one claimed that the number of dead could be in the dozens as many bodies were still buried under the rubble. Shahbaz Bhatti, the Minister for Minorities, said that 40 Christian homes were torched in rioting. He said there was no truth to allegations that a Koran had been defiled, and accused the police of ignoring his appeal to provide protection to Christians.

Tension started mounting last week after Muslims accused three Christian youths of burning a copy of the Koran. They denied the allegations, but clerics called for their death. On Saturday, hundreds of supporters of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, an outlawed Sunni sectarian group, poured into the town from surrounding districts. The group is believed to have close links with Al Qaeda and has been involved in several terrorist attacks targeting security forces in recent years.

Television footage showed armed men running through the streets, gunfire, and women and children wailing. Blackened furniture lay outside burning homes, while a group of people rushed a man suffering from burns on a cart through the streets. Rehman Malik, the Interior Minister, said that the paramilitary troops were sent after police and the local administration failed to control the situation. Security forces were also placed on high alert to prevent violence from spreading to other towns of Punjab.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536238,00.html

bandycpa
08-03-2009, 10:14
After all this time, it still sickens me to see and hear how people justify doing atrocities to each other in the name of God.


Bandy

SF_BHT
08-03-2009, 10:19
Hummm Has anyone in the last 100+ years been burned to death for defiling the Bible......NO Never....

So much for the Religion of Peace...

Get a Grip it is just a book......

bandycpa
08-03-2009, 10:23
Hummm Has anyone in the last 100+ years been burned to death for defiling the Bible......NO Never....

So much for the Religion of Peace...

Get a Grip it is just a book......

SF_BHT,

Remember when it was just a cartoon of Mohammed that caused a big ruckus? I just can't reconcile Islam with peace. The pattern just isn't there at all.


Bandy

Pete
08-03-2009, 10:51
Negligence of officials blamed for Gojra riots

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/13+negligence+of+officials+blamed+for+gojra+riots-za-14

"TOBA TEK SINGH: As the death toll in violence against the Christian community rose to seven, relatives of the victims blocked the Multan-Faisalabad section of the railway track for over six hours on Sunday by placing on the track the coffins of the people killed in Gojra on Saturday."

A little more in depth than the international stories.

Plutarch
08-03-2009, 11:22
Sadly, many American Christians forget that persecution is a daily part of life for Christians in most of the world.

http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

Saoirse
08-03-2009, 12:05
Sadly, many American Christians forget that persecution is a daily part of life for Christians in most of the world.

http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

Of course, because if it is not directly affecting them, then it is easy to ignore. And of course, there is the pressure to be politically correct and not speak out against these atrocities lest they appear to be "islmaphobes", racist or profiling the misunderstood muslims. It is a sad reality. :mad:

bost1751
08-04-2009, 08:25
You don't have to look past "peacefull" countries to see this. The Swat Valley is bad but christians are being burned in some of the more remote village in northern India. It sickens me, as it does the rest of you. This country has suppossedly been the country where all religions get along very well. This crap here in India does not get reported.

Pete
08-04-2009, 13:54
Police questions 200 after Gojra violence

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/provinces/04-pakistanquestions200aftergojraviolence-qs-09

Dawn has some good reading now and again.

A couple of quotes from the story.

"A Pakistani intelligence report some two months earlier had suggested that militant groups may be switching from suicide attacks to creating sectarian strife in cities, he noted."

and

"Authorities say an initial probe had debunked the claims that the Holy Quran was desecrated."

stickey
08-04-2009, 15:43
Sadly, many American Christians forget that persecution is a daily part of life for Christians in most of the world.

http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

Just over a 100 plus years ago our own state governments were doing it as well in Ohio-Missouri regions too. Not too many people remember the call for complete "extermination" except those that of that Christian faith being persecuted. Point being, you are correct, it is easy to forget what a luxury we have today, even with a slightly blemished past ourselves.

incarcerated
08-04-2009, 19:40
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/world/asia/05briefs-Pakistan.html

Pakistan: Deadly Rioting Was Planned, Group Says

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 4, 2009
An independent human rights commission said Tuesday that rioting that killed eight Christians last week was not spontaneous but was planned by the attackers, some of whom belong to a militant group linked to Al Qaeda. The police were questioning more than 200 people about the attacks, in which hundreds of Muslims burned down a Christian neighborhood in Gojra.

The Punjab Province law minister, Rana Sanaullah, said that those arrested included members of the banned Sunni group Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan and its offshoot, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, which is linked to Al Qaeda. The commission said many attackers came from a neighboring district, Jhang, a militant stronghold. The commission said announcements made from mosques the day before the attack called on Muslims to “make mincemeat of the Christians.”

Pete
08-05-2009, 08:44
In the name of religion

By Yaqoob Khan Bangash

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/14-in-the-name-of-religion-zj-02

"......In addition to the blasphemy allegation, the other thing common to the attacks is that they have so far been very well planned. No unruly mob consists of 30,000 people armed with everything from sticks to modern weapons as in Shantinagar. No unruly mob goes and buys sulphuric acid in the nearest big city and then plans an attack such as the one that took place in Sangla Hill. No unruly mob can successfully torch dozens of houses and then escape so easily as in Gojra.

It is clear that some aspects of the recent attacks have been clearly planned, either by local extremists or by national or international groups whose reading of religion is markedly different from that of the average Muslim’s. The failure of the local administration, which in all these incidents was a silent spectator, is inexcusable......"