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nmap
07-28-2009, 20:07
Stimulating the economy - it's a hard job, but someone has to do it. ;)

LINK (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6729772.ece)

$20m holiday home at Blue Heron Farm suits Barack Obama to a tee

It might have been the golf tee that swung it for President Obama as he looked for a summer holiday retreat — but the 28 acres on Martha’s Vineyard, the swimming pool, private beach and basketball court may just have clinched it too.

Mr Obama and the First Family are planning to spend their summer break on a $20 million retreat on the wealthy playground island off Cape Cod and even seem undeterred that the property is owned by a Republican.

The choice of such an exclusive location will inevitably be fodder for the President’s Republican critics who decried his recent “date night” to New York with his wife, Michelle — an excursion that cost taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars at a time of deep recession and soaring unemployment.

According to the Vineyard Gazette, the resort island’s journal of record since 1864, the Obamas have chosen Blue Heron Farm, in Chilmark, recorded as America’s most expensive small town in 2007.

The farm features a swimming pool, golf practice facilities — Mr Obama plays regularly — a basketball court, access to a private beach and a rental price tag of up to $50,000 (£30,000) a week.

No deal has yet been struck on the property, but the rental agreement being negotiated has reportedly been split into three separate leases: one to be held by the Obamas — and paid for out of their own pockets — one by the Secret Service, and a third by the White House, which will be sending a large entourage to Martha’s Vineyard to accompany the President.

The farm holds a five-bedroom white Victorian-style farmhouse and three other dwellings, including a reconstructed Pennsylvania hay barn and Vermont shed. It has ocean views, private access to a stretch of Squibnocket Beach, and a private dock with kayaks and a yacht.

Mr Obama is due to take his holiday on Martha’s Vineyard during the last week in August. Mrs Obama and their daughters, Sasha and Malia, could arrive earlier and stay with friends elsewhere on the island. Bo, the new dog, is also reportedly going.

Blue Heron Farm belongs to William and Mollie Van Devender, Republicans who bought the property for $20.35 million in 2005.

Mr Van Devender, a Mississippi timber mogul, gave the maximum financial donation allowed under election laws to John McCain in last year’s White House race, and both the Van Devenders contributed to Fred Thompson during his unsuccessful run in the Republican primary.

The Obamas are reported to be determined to pay their way — unlike the Clintons, who stayed at Martha’s Vineyard regularly during their years at the White House but who were always put up by other people and thus stayed rent-free.

The Secret Service has been hunting a suitable holiday property for the Obamas on the island since April. Early research focused on Oak Bluffs, where the family have vacationed before and have many wealthy, mostly African American, friends with summer homes, including Henry Louis Gates Jnr, the Harvard professor whose arrest after breaking into his own house led the President to say police had behaved stupidly. Yet it was decided that staying in Oak Bluffs would cause traffic jams, and that the area was too difficult to secure.

Blue Heron Farm is set back from a road, is out of Chilmark and has easy access to the airport.

The property has played host to a president before. In 1998 its previous owners, M. Anthony Fisher and his wife, welcomed Mr and Mrs Clinton and other guests to a dinner in the barn. The Fishers were killed in a plane crash in April 2003.

The Cape Cod area has been a favourite holiday destination for Democratic presidents. John F. Kennedy retreated to the family compound at Hyannisport.

All the presidents’ dens

— George W. Bush loved to escape to his ranch in Crawford, Texas, for a break — he spent one sixth of his presidency there. Mr Bush took more time off from the White House than any other US president, spending 1,020 days out of the office, including 490 days at his ranch.

— In the summer of 1996, one of the lowest ebbs in Bill Clinton’s presidency, he was drawing criticism for being too elitist in choosing Martha’s Vineyard, above, with its fabulously wealthy East Coast set, as a summer holiday destination. He instructed his pollster to determine where he should go instead, and ended up that year roughing it in Wyoming.

— Richard Nixon retreated to the “Florida White House” at Key Biscayne with increasing regularity as his presidency floundered. The army built a helipad at the waterfront property and Mr Nixon retained it after resigning in 1974. The 1983 gangster film Scarface was filmed there.

— During the height of the American Civil War, Abraham Lincoln would take his family to Soldier’s Home, above, a military hospital just outside Washington. Lincoln enjoyed visiting the soldiers and spent much of his presidency there. He wrote the Emancipation Proclamation, declaring all slaves free, while visiting.

incarcerated
07-28-2009, 20:34
:confused:


That's another $20 million he could have given to Hamas!








:rolleyes:

echoes
07-29-2009, 16:20
— During the height of the American Civil War, Abraham Lincoln would take his family to Soldier’s Home, above, a military hospital just outside Washington. Lincoln enjoyed visiting the soldiers and spent much of his presidency there. He wrote the Emancipation Proclamation, declaring all slaves free, while visiting.

Good Ole Honest Abe! What a great idea He had for a "vacation!";)

And well, if someone is wealthy enough to rent a $20m summer house, more power to 'em! However, if it is U.S. tax dollars paying the salary of said individual...well, I would rather He consider a more economial place, like say, Branson Missouri! Ahhh, Branson!:D

Maybe I should send Zero the vacation pamplets???:eek:

Holly

Sigaba
07-29-2009, 16:40
— During the height of the American Civil War, Abraham Lincoln would take his family to Soldier’s Home, above, a military hospital just outside Washington. Lincoln enjoyed visiting the soldiers and spent much of his presidency there. He wrote the Emancipation Proclamation, declaring all slaves free, while visiting.
It did? Source is here (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/print_friendly.html?page=transcript_content.html&title=Emancipation_Proclamation).
That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.

That the Executive will, on the first day of January aforesaid, by proclamation, designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof, respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that any State, or the people thereof, shall on that day be, in good faith, represented in the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such State shall have participated, shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive evidence that such State, and the people thereof, are not then in rebellion against the United States.

<<SNIP>>

echoes
07-29-2009, 16:58
It did? Source is here..

In any case, gotta love Abe Lincoln!!! He was "The Man!" IMHO!

Was never my intention to mis-represent facts, and hope I have not done so...:munchin

Holly

The Reaper
07-29-2009, 17:14
It did? Source is here (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/print_friendly.html?page=transcript_content.html&title=Emancipation_Proclamation).



My thoughts exactly.

Another person spouting an incorrect version of history.

The Emancipation Proclamation only declared free the slaves in the Confederate states, not the ones in Union states.

Yes, several Union states permitted slavery.

TR

bandycpa
07-29-2009, 17:59
Mr Obama and the First Family are planning to spend their summer break on a $20 million retreat on the wealthy playground island off Cape Cod and even seem undeterred that the property is owned by a Republican.

Finally! Some bipartisanship! What took him so long?

The choice of such an exclusive location will inevitably be fodder for the President’s Republican critics who decried his recent “date night” to New York with his wife, Michelle — an excursion that cost taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars at a time of deep recession and soaring unemployment.

To quote Leroy Jethro Gibbs, "Ya think, McGee?"

I don't understand how President Obama can do these kind of things and still claim to care for the people that are struggling from paycheck to paycheck. So far, he's traveled extensively abroad just to tell other countries how bad and how wrong we were, he's involved himself and the government in taking over and artificially keeping alive businesses that were dying a natural death, he's seeking to harm us all with his universal healthcare plan, and he has made statements of a condescending and divisive nature toward both Republicans and law enforcement officers over matters that he "doesn't have all the facts on". And now he goes on vacation to rest and recuperate in a place that is going to cost an ungodly amount of money to stay in?

I'll just say it. My gut tells me that the Obamas are going to enjoy every little perk, every little privilege, every little luxury that can possibly come with being President while they can.

I hope his golf clubs break, his basketball goes flat, and his caviar spoils.

(But I'm not bitter...)


Bandy

Sigaba
07-29-2009, 18:34
And now he goes on vacation to rest and recuperate in a place that is going to cost an ungodly amount of money to stay in?

I'll just say it. My gut tells me that the Obamas are going to enjoy every little perk, every little privilege, every little luxury that can possibly come with being President while they can.

I do not begrudge any president--not even this...guy--the perks that go along with the world's loneliest job.

Still, wouldn't it be something if he were to lead by example and find some way to show he empathizes with those Americans who are feeling the burdens of this recession? (No, wait. Sorry. That would require actual compassion and genuine introspective thought.)

Hope springs eternal. With his chronic foot in mouthitis, the president may undermine the confidence of some of his more affluent supporters during his holiday. At some point, he's going to bump into a former classmate who will soon realize "Hey, the guy sounded much more articulate when we were both blazed and scarfing down a bag of nacho cheese Doritos. And I never realized how often he says 'uh (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24268)'."
I hope his golf clubs break, his basketball goes flat, and his caviar spoils.
How about a hitch in both his swing and his jump shot? Slice slice slice. Brick brick brick.
(But I'm not bitter...)
Like they say in the House of Costanza: "Serenity now / serenity now.":D

bandycpa
07-29-2009, 19:15
I do not begrudge any president--not even this...guy--the perks that go along with the world's loneliest job.

Still, wouldn't it be something if he were to lead by example and find some way to show he empathizes with those Americans who are feeling the burdens of this recession? (No, wait. Sorry. That would require actual compassion and genuine introspective thought.)

That's where I was headed. I just couldn't come up with a good way to say it. Thanks, Sigaba.


How about a hitch in both his swing and his jump shot? Slice slice slice. Brick brick brick.

Even better. That way he may have to take some responsibility for his shortcomings instead of blaming his surroundings (faulty equipment, for example).

Like they say in the House of Costanza: "Serenity now / serenity now.":D

Now THAT was funny right there.


Bandy

Pete S
07-30-2009, 08:07
Why do we have Camp David again?

The $20 million could easily come from his personal campaign stash, it's the amount of tax payer money that will go into securing a new location that I don't like.

6.8SPC_DUMP
07-31-2009, 02:31
I'm far from an Obama supporter, but I don't think it is worth giving him grief over this, with all that's going on in the lives of the civilian working class and America's Bravest.

I think a big part of Obama's success in the primaries and general election was that he would not start personal attacks against his opponents. Instead, he attacked their policy and the policy of their predecessor (GOP) who they voted with. When attacked, he defended himself reasonably well, and it made the attacks seem petty in the minds of many voters who were sick of mud slinging after the last two elections. Also, even though he preached no personal attacks, it didn't stop the media and his supporters from firing away - so the attacks got out there - just without the blow back of him stating it.

There is plenty to discredit Obama on about policy; like not holding to his election speeches' on transparency, taxes and cooperation. We risk being called hypocrites for criticizing him on a lavish vacation, when Bush set the record for vacation days, and what guy who just made 20+ million on book sales isn't going to take the family somewhere expensive.

The article makes it clear how renting a place for a week costs less than buying it... The issue is the taxpayer paying 10's of thousands for it - but that is nothing compared to the trillions we have already been set to pay under his presidency.

Many people attribute the Dem's success in '08 to the economy, and I wonder if it would not be a good idea for the GOP to adopt some of BHO's successful tactics when running in '12, hopefully not being FOS.

Just my .0000002

incarcerated
07-31-2009, 04:47
Personal attacks? From the Left? They would never stoop to such a thing.












http://www.toowhitemen.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-blow-up-doll/

bandycpa
07-31-2009, 05:05
I'm far from an Obama supporter, but I don't think it is worth giving him grief over this, with all that's going on in the lives of the civilian working class and America's Bravest.

I think a big part of Obama's success in the primaries and general election was that he would not start personal attacks against his opponents. Instead, he attacked their policy and the policy of their predecessor (GOP) who they voted with. When attacked, he defended himself reasonably well, and it made the attacks seem petty in the minds of many voters who were sick of mud slinging after the last two elections. Also, even though he preached no personal attacks, it didn't stop the media and his supporters from firing away - so the attacks got out there - just without the blow back of him stating it.

There is plenty to discredit Obama on about policy; like not holding to his election speeches' on transparency, taxes and cooperation. We risk being called hypocrites for criticizing him on a lavish vacation, when Bush set the record for vacation days, and what guy who just made 20+ million on book sales isn't going to take the family somewhere expensive.

The article makes it clear how renting a place for a week costs less than buying it... The issue is the taxpayer paying 10's of thousands for it - but that is nothing compared to the trillions we have already been set to pay under his presidency.

Many people attribute the Dem's success in '08 to the economy, and I wonder if it would not be a good idea for the GOP to adopt some of BHO's successful tactics when running in '12, hopefully not being FOS.

Just my .0000002

6.8SPC_DUMP,

You make a lot of good points concerning not making this personal against President Obama. We would be best served sticking to what he has (or hasn't) done as opposed to his character.

My issue with the whole vacation thing is that it smacks of the "let them eat cake" mentality. Our country is in an economic downcycle, stimulus packages are being thrown up against the proverbial wall in hopes of making things better, jobs are being lost, businesses are failing, and we are being slowly marched down the road toward socialism. Meanwhile, our President decides to take a vacation in a place that I probably couldn't even afford to drive by much less take a week off there.

If you are leader of the Free World and your people are looking to you for leadership and action in a time of economic crisis, wouldn't it better to show that you're sacrificing along with the rest of us rather than flaunt just how good of a vacation you can afford to have?


Bandy

echoes
07-31-2009, 05:44
If you are leader of the Free World and your people are looking to you for leadership and action in a time of economic crisis, wouldn't it better to show that you're sacrificing along with the rest of us rather than flaunt just how good of a vacation you can afford to have?Bandy

Bandy,

Very well said, IMHO. (even before my first cup-coffee.)

I think the people need to keep their leaders in check, by discussing their actions.

my .02

Holly:munchin

6.8SPC_DUMP
07-31-2009, 06:26
My issue with the whole vacation thing is that it smacks of the "let them eat cake" mentality. Our country is in an economic downcycle, stimulus packages are being thrown up against the proverbial wall in hopes of making things better, jobs are being lost, businesses are failing, and we are being slowly marched down the road toward socialism. Meanwhile, our President decides to take a vacation in a place that I probably couldn't even afford to drive by much less take a week off there.

If you are leader of the Free World and your people are looking to you for leadership and action in a time of economic crisis, wouldn't it better to show that you're sacrificing along with the rest of us rather than flaunt just how good of a vacation you can afford to have?

Thanks for the kind words and your POV.

Sorry but I'm going to have to plead ignorance to whether Obama should take a vacation. I don't know BHO or his day to day workings well enough to weigh in on the whole balance of him not getting burnt out vs. being there.

IMHO he is a mouth piece for the Federal Reserve on the stimulus' and bail outs'. I can live for a week without hearing about his views on social programs and taxes.

I hadn't seen anything about him flaunting, but I am in the same boat with you about not being able to take my family anywhere like that, and not taking them on a vacation for a long time. But I haven't made his type of money and don't feel I've needed to get away from work (even thought I've lost a lot of sleep and got some white hairs like the POTUS). With my personality and views I'd be shot, impeached or convinced to resign by now as a POTUS.:)

Richard
07-31-2009, 06:27
FWIW - the POTUS does not take a vacation as most of us know it - infrasturcture, security, privacy for VIP meetings, personal preferences, etc are all a part of the equation as to when and where - lots of movers and shakers of the American and global economy spending time with their families in that AO at this time of the year - the location may be an indicator of why the POTUS is staying where he is.

Richard's $.02 :munchin