Shooting at Little Rock Army/Navy recruiting station [Archive]

Richard

06-01-2009, 11:26

AP - A new soldier helping to attract others to the military was shot and killed outside an Army recruiting office Monday and a second soldier was wounded, and a suspect was arrested, police said.

A man inside a black vehicle pulled up outside the Army-Navy recruiting office in west Little Rock and opened fire about 10:30 a.m., said police Lt. Terry Hastings.

The two soldiers were outside the office when they were shot. They were taken to a hospital, where one died.

The vehicle was stopped on Interstate 630 a short time later and a suspect was taken into custody. Hastings said the suspect pulled over and surrendered without incident. Police found an assault rifle in the vehicle.

Hastings said investigators had not yet questioned the suspect. Hastings said he did not know whether the recruiting office was specifically targeted or randomly chosen.

Authorities did not immediately identify the victims or the suspect.

As a precaution, police called in a bomb squad after packages were found in the vehicle. Hastings said a robot would be used to open the packages.

Lt. Col. Thomas F. Artis of the Oklahoma City Recruiting Battalion, which oversees the Little Rock office, said the victims had just completed basic training and were not regular recruiters. He said they were serving two weeks in the Little Rock office.

As part of the Hometown Recruiting Assistance Program, the soldiers were sent to "talk to friends, folks in the local area. They can show the example, 'Here's where I was, and here is where I am,'" Artis said.

Artis said neither of the soldiers had been deployed for combat.

Eight other people work in the Little Rock recruiting office, including one civilian, he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090601/ap_on_re_us/us_recruiters_shot

There's got to be more to the story with these guys - but a sad situation nonetheless. :(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Puertoland

06-01-2009, 15:27

RIP soldier. Prayers will go out to the one injured.

kgoerz

06-01-2009, 15:35

There's got to be more to the story with these guys - but a sad situation nonetheless. :(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

He shot down unarmed men. Then when confronted with armed Men he surrendered. Not much more to being a coward then that.
I cant imagine the frustration and self control the LEO'S must have in taking someone like this in to custody, instead of covering his body with a sheet.

Pete

06-01-2009, 15:39

There's got to be more to the story with these guys - but a sad situation nonetheless. :(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Ditto Rich;

Man, it's begining to look like it's safer to be in the box than at home. But this was no accident. Some CSMFer planned it and did it.

The trial should be short.

Arrrrrrrrrr.

Richard

06-01-2009, 15:42

There's got to be more to the story with these guys...

My point is that these were two young guys back home on a home town recruiting gig after only being in the Army for a couple of months and they get gunned down in broad daylight by a guy who doesn't go after anybody else and then readily gives himself up when confronted - a grudge or revenge, maybe? :confused:

I'm waiting to hear the whole story.

Meanwhile - it's still a sad case. :(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pete

06-01-2009, 16:11

http://arkansasmatters.com/

Edited to add - thats a screwy news site. Anyway - claims the shooter was a jail house convert to Islam, the religion of peace, and he targeted the soldiers.

Then again breaking news has been wrong before.

SF-TX

06-01-2009, 16:54

"At a briefing Monday afternoon, Little Rock police chief Stuart Thomas identified the suspect as Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, 24, of Little Rock. Thomas says Muhammad also goes by the name Carlos Bledsoe."

http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0609/627959.html

JJ_BPK

06-01-2009, 17:10

RIP Pvt Long, Vaya con Dios

The soldier who was killed was identified as Pvt. William Long, 24, of Conway, and the wounded soldier is Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula, 18, of Jacksonville. Ezeagwula is in stable condition and expected to recover.

PRB

06-01-2009, 17:29

SF_BHT

06-01-2009, 18:34

RIP

I hope they terminate this Turd's life as quick as he did the young Pvt's....

charlietwo

06-01-2009, 18:37

Fortunately for everyone, the fact that the shooter was a Muslim convert is buried within most stories as they are reported.

RIP brother.

The Reaper

06-01-2009, 18:58

Fortunately for everyone, the fact that the shooter was a Muslim convert is buried within most stories as they are reported.

RIP brother.

Well thank God it wasn't one of those dangerous Christian, Republican, right wing, gun-owning, conservative extremists DHS is on the lookout for. Right Janet?

Who would have thought that a member of the "Religion of Peace" would perpetrate such a crime against Americans? Probably hired to do it by the National Republican Party, or Rush.

Praise Allah that such a thing has never happened before, and will never again, with the Great Apologizer in the highest office in the land.

Let us quickly close Gitmo, open our borders, and put any of these poor misguided souls who can be convicted of any real crimes into our prisons where they can be treated and rehabilitated, while spreading their religious and political views to the other inmates, especially those evil Christians.

Move along folks, nothing to see here. Allahu Akbar!

TR

Richard

06-01-2009, 19:00

Allahu Akbar!

A - effin' - men! ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

SF-TX

06-01-2009, 19:47

Robert Spencer is reporting that the shooter recently returned from Yemen, where he was studying the 'religion of peace.'

I have learned from a well-placed source that Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, who killed one soldier and wounded another at a a Little Rock military recruiting center today, and who faces charges of terrorism as well as first-degree murder, has recently returned from Yemen, where he studied jihad with an Islamic scholar there.

Apparently the Islamic scholar under whom this American convert to Islam studied was yet another misunderstander of Islam's true, peaceful teachings.

More on this as it develops.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026380.php

BigJimCalhoun

06-01-2009, 20:16

Some very interesting internet info on the Jailhouse Islam phenom in the States.
What would fit a criminal better than a religion that underwrites violence against non believers...also theft (robbing the caravans of the infidel) lying, etc.etc.....truly a great religion

Sir

If you have specific links you can provide for my learning, that would be great, otherwise I will continue to search for this on my own. I learned a little about this, not sure if it was in a book or on TV but they would talk to the prisoners and tell them that their crimes, in Islam, were not crimes because they were committed against infidels.

Richard

06-01-2009, 20:39

Police arrested Muhammad, 23, along an interstate moments after the shootings at the Army-Navy Career Center in a shopping center in west Little Rock.

Muhammad had converted to Islam at some point in his life and interviews with police show he "probably had political and religious motives for the attack," the police chief said.

Muhammad, previously known as Carlos Bledsoe, was not part of a larger group nor was his attack part of a larger conspiracy, Thomas said.

"We believe that it's associated with his disagreement over the military operations," the police chief said.

Thomas said Muhammad would be charged with first-degree murder, plus 15 counts of committing a terroristic act. Thomas said those counts result from the gunfire occurring near other people.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090602/ap_on_re_us/us_recruiters_shot

And so it goes... :(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

TrapLine

06-01-2009, 21:28

charlietwo

06-01-2009, 21:53

I am sorry if I am out of line here, but the belief this attack is not part of a larger conspiracy is at the root of our problems, IMHO.

That is a dramatic, unfortunate understatement TrapLine.

PRB

06-01-2009, 21:56

Sir

If you have specific links you can provide for my learning, that would be great, otherwise I will continue to search for this on my own. I learned a little about this, not sure if it was in a book or on TV but they would talk to the prisoners and tell them that their crimes, in Islam, were not crimes because they were committed against infidels.

No one site I could provide for this very complex issue. I'd recommend study of Islam itself specifically the later Wahabbi influence upon Islam today. That would be the Quran and the Hadiths as applied by SA and the Wahabbi faction.
Muslims use the Quran in conjunction with the Hadiths (the life and example of Muhammed as written by his companions)...as Muhammed was (in their opinion) the perfect man ergo emulation of his day to day activities cannot lead one astray. The problem (for western society) is that Muhammed was a warlord and commited every 7th century depridation imaginable.
The Taliban, Al Qaeda etc. refer to the hadiths to underwrite killing non combatants, killing prisoners, taking slaves etc.
In this case I can guarantee one can find a respected Imam, Mullah that will say that it was this Muslims duty to make war on those that war on Islam.
There is no central authority in Islam and many different schools of thought.
Even so, the literal example of the Hadiths specifically cannot be argued and even 'moderate' Muslims will defer when pushed as they cannot say that any act commited by Muhammed is less than perfect.

Guy

06-01-2009, 22:32

Some very interesting internet info on the Jailhouse Islam phenom in the States.Met and know a few of these converts from JAIL; don't like none of them! Everyone of them I've met was a POS that I would NOT piss on if...they were on FIRE!

Some people just need too be killed!:cool:

Stay safe.

Surf n Turf

06-01-2009, 22:40

It’s starting to look as if Louis Eugene Walcott’s (The Calypso Charmer), strategy is starting to work. Louis Farrakhan has made the recruitment of incarcerated brothers one of the underpinnings of his ministry. See a trend ?
SnT

The FBI and NYPD busted a four-man homegrown terror cell Wednesday night that was plotting to blow up two Bronx synagogues while simultaneously shooting a plane out of the sky. The suspects - three U.S.-born citizens and one Haitian immigrant - at least three of whom were said to be jailhouse converts to Islam, were angry about the deaths of Muslims in Afghanistan.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6824533

After a man promised to murder a cop in cold blood and then shot him several times, authorities have revealed he is a suspected "jailhouse Islam" convert.
Rasheed Scrugs, 33, also known as Rasheed Abdulghaffer, shot Philadelphia Police Officer John Pawlowski, 25, with a .357 Magnum he hid in his black, three-quarter length jacket Feb. 13.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89177

Pete

06-02-2009, 03:25

Seems our shooter was under investigation by the FBI prior to the incident.

Seems our shooter took a trip overseas - and not with a US passport.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7730637&page=1

Seems the MSM is trying it's best to circular file this story.

I wonder how he got the passport?

Richard

06-02-2009, 06:22

From today's Pravda on the Hudson:

In a lengthy interview with the police, Mr. Muhammad said he was angry about the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Chief Thomas said. Previously known as Carlos Bledsoe, Mr. Muhammad told investigators that he had converted to Islam as a teenager, Chief Thomas said.

Chief Thomas said investigators believe that Mr. Muhammad acted alone. He seemed to be familiar with the Army recruiting office because it was not far from his home, the chief said, but might have been on the prowl for anyone in uniform.

“I would say he was looking for any and all targets of opportunity that happened to be military,” the chief said in a telephone interview. “That may have well been the first place he found.”

CBS News reports he's recently returned from a trip to Yemen and the FBI are investigating for any possibility of home-grown terrorism connections.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

koz

06-02-2009, 07:49

Motherfucker just pleaded NOT guilty in court - :mad:

Also reported that the Soldier killed had just completed Basic training

The Reaper

06-02-2009, 09:25

CL31542

06-02-2009, 10:49

Some interesting “coincidences” regarding his chosen Muslim name:

Abdulhakim: Abdul Hakim Ali Hashim Murad, alleged conspirator in the Bojinka plot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Hakim_Murad_(militant))

Mujahid: a person involved in a jihad, singular of mujahideen, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen

Muhammad: Obvious

PRB

06-02-2009, 12:01

Don't think this shitbird was a jailhouse convert....he 'eased' into the Jihadi mentality 'intellectually' by his Islamic studies....he had to be commited before his trip to Yemen...you only study there for one reason, radical Islam.
Farrakhan and the NOI are not even considered Muslim by shia/sunni regardless of sect.
The majority of jailhouse rads are trained in a Saudi Arabian financed form of strict Wahabbi Islam.
SA has donated millions of dollars/qurans/teachers to our jail system and we just basically said '''ok'''.
Recently, many of the SA qurans/brochures have been removed due to the hate speech directed against Christians, jews and any Kafir.
For real jailhouse Islam google and south Philly Islamic masjid...some real sweet Muslims in them parts....almost a simple fron for gang/criminal activity disquised as religion...

Richard

06-02-2009, 12:43

The majority of jailhouse rads are trained in a Saudi Arabian financed form of strict Wahabbi Islam. SA has donated millions of dollars/qurans/teachers to our jail system and we just basically said '''ok'''.
Recently, many of the SA qurans/brochures have been removed due to the hate speech directed against Christians, jews and any Kafir.

Sounds like a version of the SA exported madrasahs which focus their studies on the so-called sword scriptures are now targeting the ideologically ill-prepared and naive of North America. MFers. :mad:

And what are the DOJ ffolkes doing to counter this crap? :confused:

Here are a few 'maxims' worth considering in all this:

• Thanks for Nothin' Maxim: A vulnerability assessment that finds no vulnerabilities or only a few is worthless and wrong.

• Ignorance is Bliss Maxim: The confidence that people have in security is inversely proportional to how much they know about it. Comment: Security looks easy if you've never taken the time to think carefully about it.

• Show Me Maxim: No serious security vulnerability, including blatantly obvious ones, will be dealt with until there is overwhelming evidence and widespread recognition that adversaries have already catastrophically exploited it. In other words, "significant psychological (or literal) damage is required before any significant security changes will be made".

• Insider Risk Maxim: Most organizations will ignore or seriously underestimate the threat from insiders. Comment: Maybe from a combination of denial that we've hired bad people, and a (justifiable) fear of how hard it is to deal with the insider threat?

• Pogo (We Have Met the Enemy and He is Us) Maxim: The insider threat from careless or complacent employees and contractors exceeds the threat from malicious insiders (though the latter is not negligible.) Comment: This is partially, though not totally, due to the fact that careless or complacent insiders often unintentionally help nefarious outsiders.

• Feynman's Maxim: An organization will fear and despise loyal vulnerability assessors and others who point out vulnerabilities or suggest security changes more than malicious adversaries. Comment: An entertaining example of this common phenomenon can be found in "Surely You are Joking, Mr. Feynman!", published by W.W. Norton, 1997. During the Manhattan Project, when physicist Richard Feynman pointed out physical security vulnerabilities, he was banned from the facility, rather than having the vulnerability dealt with (which actually would have been quite easy and was - as events later proved - necessary).

Richard's $.02 :munchin

7624U

06-02-2009, 13:18

“I would say he was looking for any and all targets of opportunity that happened to be military,” the chief said in a telephone interview. “That may have well been the first place he found.”

Another good reason to have a CCW permit. You know more are on the prowl.

Smokin Joe

06-02-2009, 14:43

Another good reason to have a CCW permit. You know more are on the prowl.

What I think is ridiculous is that H.R. 218 (cop carry law) allows all LEO's no matter their level of training or experience to carry nation wide. Where as a soldier with a combat MOS (not to mention a Special Forces Soldier) who in a lot cases has received a shit ton more weapons training then your typical back woods LEO is not extended the same courtesy.

I understand our soldiers do not have the same legal training as any LEO but DOD needs to come up with a 2 day curriculum on ccw and authorize ALL soldiers to carry concealed! This should not have happened ever, yet I know this isn't the first time a recruitment station has been the victim of a shooting.

~An armed society is a polite society!

RIP

greenberetTFS

06-02-2009, 15:22

[QUOTE=Richard;267701]From today's Pravda on the Hudson:

In a lengthy interview with the police, Mr. Muhammad said he was angry about the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Chief Thomas said. Previously known as Carlos Bledsoe, Mr. Muhammad told investigators that he had converted to Islam as a teenager, Chief Thomas said.

Chief Thomas said investigators believe that Mr. Muhammad acted alone. He seemed to be familiar with the Army recruiting office because it was not far from his home, the chief said, but might have been on the prowl for anyone in uniform.

“I would say he was looking for any and all targets of opportunity that happened to be military,” the chief said in a telephone interview. “That may have well been the first place he found.”

[COLOR="Orange"]CBS News reports he's recently returned from a trip to Yemen and the FBI are investigating for any possibility of home-grown terrorism connections.

Richard's $.02 [/COLOR/]

Richard,

Michelle Malkin - Syndicated Columnist - 5/22/2009 8:15:00 AMBookmark and Share

President Obama's speech on homeland security was 6,072 words long. Curiously, he chose not to spare an "a," "and" or "uh" on the New York City terror bust that dominated headlines the morning of his Thursday address. Did the teleprompter run out of room?:rolleyes:

After a yearlong investigation launched by the Bush administration, the feds cracked down on a ring of murder-minded black Muslim jailhouse converts preparing to bomb two Bronx synagogues and "eager to bring death to Jews." They also planned to attack a New York National Guard air base in Newburgh, NY, where the suspects lived and worshiped at a local mosque. :eek:

Not one word from the president on the jihadists' intended victims, motives or means.

No comfort for the reported targets in the Big Apple, still raw from the Scare Force One rattling that so vainly and recklessly simulated 9/11.

No condemnation for the accused plotters.

Why? Because doing so would force Obama to abandon his cottony "extremist ideology" euphemisms and confront the concrete truth. To borrow one of our obtuse president's favorite cliches, "let me be perfectly clear" about the reality Obama won't touch: America faces an ongoing Islamic jihad at home and abroad. Not merely "man-caused." But Koran-inspired. Yet, Obama refuses to spell out the centuries-old roots of the war that he claims he'll win faster, better and cleaner than any of his predecessors.

related article buttonMoreover, his push to transfer violent Muslim warmongers into our civilian prisons -- where they have proselytized and plotted with impunity -- will only make the problem worse. A brief refresher course for the left's amnesiacs about the festering jihadi virus in our jails and overseas:

In 2005, Bush administration officials busted a terrorist plot to attack infidels at military and Jewish sites in Los Angeles on the fourth anniversary of 9/11 or the Jewish holy days. It was devised by militant Muslim converts of Jam'iyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh (Arabic for "Assembly of Authentic Islam") who had sworn allegiance to violent jihad at California's New Folsom State Prison.

Convicted terror conspirator Jose Padilla converted to Islam during a stint at a Broward County, FL, jail and reportedly fell in with terrorist recruiters after his release. Convicted "shoe bomber" Richard Reid converted to Islam with the help of an extremist imam in a British prison.

Aqil Collins, a self-confessed jihadist turned FBI informant, converted to Islam while doing time in a California juvenile detention center. At a terrorist camp in Afghanistan, he went on to train with one of the men accused of kidnapping and beheading Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

In East Texas, inmates were recruited with a half-hour videotape featuring the anti-Semitic rants of California-based Imam Muhammad Abdullah, who claims that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were actually carried out by the Israeli and U.S. governments.

Federal corrections officials told congressional investigators during the Bush years "that convicted terrorists from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing were put into their prisons' general population, where they radicalized inmates and told them that terrorism was part of Islam."

Despite the insistence of Obama and the Jihadi Welcome Wagon that our civilian prisons are perfectly secure, convicted terrorist aid Lynne Stewart helped jailed 1993 World Trade Center bombing/NY landmark bombing plot mastermind Omar Abdel-Rahman smuggle coded messages of Islamic violence to outside followers in violation of an explicit pledge to abide by her client's court-ordered isolation.

As I've reported previously, U.S. Bureau of Prison reports have warned for years that our civilian detention facilities are major breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists. There are still not enough legitimately trained and screened Muslim religious leaders to counsel an estimated 9,000 U.S. prison inmates who demand Islamic services. Under the Bush administration, the federal prison bureaucracy had no policy in place to screen out extremist, violence-advocating Islamic chaplains; failed to properly screen the many contractors and volunteers who help provide religious services to Islamic inmates; and shied away from religious profiling.

What's Obama's plan to prevent the jihadi virus from spreading? Washing hands and covering mouths won't work for this disease.........:mad:

Michelle Malkin (malkinblog@gmail.com) is author of the forthcoming "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2009).

GB TFS :munchin
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greenberetTFS

06-02-2009, 15:52

That is a dramatic, unfortunate understatement TrapLine.

C2,

I concur completely,TL's living in a different world.......:confused:

Eric Gorski and Rachel Zoll - Associated Press Writers - 5/23/2009 4:40:00 AMBookmark and Share

NEW YORK - The arrest of four Muslim ex-convicts in an alleged homegrown terror plot in the Bronx is renewing fears about the spread of Islamic extremism in the nation's prisons...........:rolleyes:

At least two of the four men suspected of plotting to bomb synagogues and shoot down military airplanes converted to Islam behind bars. The alleged mastermind is also a convert, and the fourth man identified himself as a Muslim when he entered prison...........:mad:

But this week's foiled plot is not the first terror scheme implicating Muslim convicts, and it comes despite reports of progress in screening chaplains and materials on Islam in the prison system.

"Basically, the threat is real," said Paul Rogers, past president of the American Correctional Chaplains Association. "Prisons have unstable people and people who are on the edge of a lot of different things. The radical elements of any religion can be emphasized."

Those fears were heightened this week as lawmakers debated the fate of detainees if President Barack Obama shutters the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

FBI Director Robert Mueller said terror suspects brought to the U.S. could end up "radicalizing others" or plan attacks on the country. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Obama would do nothing to endanger the public and decried "fear-mongering about this."

The four defendants in the New York terror case had been in and out of prison.

Laguerre Payen said he converted to Islam in prison, but a Muslim prayer leader who counseled him when he got out said he had a poor understanding of the faith. Onta Williams had registered as a Baptist in prison, but his uncle said he converted to Islam inside. David Williams and James Cromitie had registered as Muslim in
prison, according to correction officials.

Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the three others are Americans. The Williamses are not related.

Mitch Silber, a top New York Police Department intelligence analyst, said inmates converting to Islam are so common that he and his colleagues call it "Prislam." Though many drop the faith once they are out, for some "the conversion sticks" and can fuel anger toward the United States, said Silber, co-author of the 2007 NYPD report "Radicalization in the West: The Homegrown Threat."

Just as young people can be radicalized by "cut-and-paste" readings of the Quran on the Internet, new inmates may get a distorted view of Islam from gang leaders or other influential inmates, according to "Out of the Shadows: Getting Ahead of Prison Radicalization," a 2006 report by the George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute and the University of Virginia Critical Incident Analysis Group.

Several imams used the term "Jailhouse Islam" to describe a form of Islam in prison that incorporates gang loyalty and violence, the report said.

Many states are doing a better job of screening the reading material that comes into prisons, Rogers said. But other problems arise when there are no qualified chaplains or volunteers.

"Sometimes inmates rely on other inmates, and it's sort of the prison way," Rogers said. "They turn to someone they trust, their 'celly' or someone in their cellblock, and put them on a pedestal as someone who has more knowledge about the religion. He could be spreading knowledge, or could be spreading ignorance."

Inmates who were radicalized in prison include:

- Jose Padilla, a former Chicago gang member, who converted to Islam behind bars and was recruited at a mosque to become a mujahedeen fighter, authorities said. Prosecutors accused him of plotting to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb," but he was convicted of unrelated terror support charges.

- Richard Reid, a British citizen and follower of Osama bin Laden, who was a prison convert in England and became involved with militants after he was freed. He pleaded guilty in 2002 to trying to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives hidden in his shoes. He is now serving a life sentence at a maximum-security prison in Florence, Colo.

- A group of prisoners in California who converted to Islam and were arrested in 2005 on charges of plotting behind bars to attack military sites, synagogues and other targets.

Islam took hold in U.S. prisons in the 1940s, when members of the Nation of Islam were held for refusing to fight in World War II. Malcolm X was one of their most famous prison recruits.

The religion spread when Muslim inmates successfully sued for more freedom to practice their faith. Get-tough sentencing laws enacted in the 1980s filled prisons with large numbers of blacks and led to another spike in conversion. By this time, many blacks who once were in the Nation of Islam embraced mainstream Islam instead................

Associated Press Writers Michael Hill in Newburgh, N.Y., and Tom Hays in New York contributed to this story. Gorski reported from Denver and Zoll from New York.

GB TFS :munchin

Team Sergeant

06-02-2009, 17:48

Patriot007

06-02-2009, 22:27

I was glued to the TV for two weeks after 9-11, and during that time I could barely think beyond the task of grasping the concept that in fact we have an enemy and they can reach us at our most vulnerable times and locations. I feel that at least half of this country skipped that part and went straight from shock back to ignorant foolishness. I can not even begin to contemplate how it is possible for the majority of the country to so easily forget.

Along the lines that TS has stated, I have been amazed that there there have not been more suicide assaults on unarmed (read disarmed) civilians at schools, sporting events ect... I have always chalked that up to those that have thwarted the plans and those that have brought the fight to the enemy. With the attitude of the current administration and the sheep of this country in general it seems that it is open season.

Smokin Joe

06-02-2009, 22:52

And so it begins, on our soil, in our back yards...

You LEO's better pick up the pace on your individual weapons training.

Soon enough the islamic cowards will team up and hit a mall or baseball game.

islam, the religion of peace.

This needs to move to the terrorism thread.

Or a school and they won't give up if there is more than one of them. So, if your a cop and you aren't ready for this kind of threat pack it in and enjoy life in another career... There is no shame in knowing your limitations... there is shame in knowing your limitations and ignoring them to save face today only to fail when someone needs you most.

Guy

06-02-2009, 23:04

For real jailhouse Islam google and south Philly Islamic masjid...some real sweet Muslims in them parts....almost a simple fron for gang/criminal activity disquised as religion...I'd run into them on a daily basis while working in Oakland, CA...I didn't like'em then and they damn sure didn't like me.:D

"Brother can I speak with you?"

"Get a fucking real JOB!"

Stay safe.

greenberetTFS

06-03-2009, 11:59

I'd run into them on a daily basis while working in Oakland, CA...I didn't like'em then and they damn sure didn't like me.:D

"Brother can I speak with you?"

"Get a fucking real JOB!"

Stay safe.

Amen.................:mad:

GB TFS :munchin

Richard

06-03-2009, 12:15

Today's update.

More Targets Found on Arkansas Shooting Suspect's Computer
Fox News, 3 Jun 2009

A senior U.S. official tells FOX News that more targets were found on the computer of a man charged in the fatal shooting at a military recruiting center in Arkansas — suggesting the accused gunman may have been part of a larger plot to attack military targets and may not have been acting alone.

Officers found maps to Jewish organizations, a Baptist church, a child care center, a post office and military recruiting centers in the southeastern U.S., New York and Philadelphia, according to a joint FBI-Homeland Security intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press.

After Monday's attack outside the Army-Navy Career Center in Little Rock, detectives searched a computer linked to suspect Abdulhakim Muhammad, and discovered research into multiple sites in different states, according to the memo.

Muhammad, 23, a Muslim convert who previously was known as Carlos Bledsoe, pleaded not guilty to capital murder in the deadly suburban shopping complex shooting.

Authorities said he targeted soldiers "because of what they had done to Muslims in the past."

Private William Long, 23, was killed and Private Quinton I. Ezeagwula, 18, was wounded. Both completed basic training within the past two weeks and had never seen combat. Ezeagwula was in stable condition at a hospital.

The latest information seemed to contradict a local police official's denial earlier Tuesday that the shooting was part of a larger conspiracy, though details of possible accomplices and their involvement weren't immediately disclosed.
Muhammad is being held without bond and is due to make his first court appearance Wednesday.

Muhammad, a U.S. citizen, is accused of carrying out a targeted attack against U.S. forces because of "political and religious motives" and already had been under investigation by the FBI at the time of the shootings.

An FBI joint terrorism task force based in the southern U.S. reportedly had been tracking Muhammad after he traveled to Yemen and was arrested and jailed there for using a Somali passport, an official told The Associated Press. The probe had been in its early stages and based on Muhammad's trip to Yemen, ABC News reported.

While there, Muhammad, who was born and raised in Tennessee, studied jihad with an Islamic scholar, according to Jihadwatch.org. He moved to Little Rock in April.

At Tuesday's court hearing, Deputy Prosecutor Scott Duncan said Muhammad told investigators that "he would have killed more soldiers had they been in the parking lot."

Long and Ezeagwula were targeted as they stood outside the recruiting center smoking cigarettes.

Muhammad, wearing a dark blue jail uniform with brown plastic sandals, sat with his hands in his lap before Little Rock District Judge Alice Lightle. He did not say anything during the brief hearing.

Investigators described the killing as one motivated by politics and religion: A Muslim convert upset with the U.S. military drove to a recruiting center and opened fire.

Muhammad was not part of any organized terrorist group, nor was his attack part of a larger conspiracy, Little Rock Police Chief Stuart Thomas said on Tuesday.

Interviews with police show that the suspect "probably had political and religious motives for the attack," Thomas said. "We believe that it's associated with his disagreement over the military operations."

Muhammad told authorities that he approached the recruiting center in Little Rock by car on Monday and started shooting at two soldiers in uniform, according to a police report.

"He saw them standing there and drove up and shot them," Lt. Terry Hastings told the AP. "That's what he said."

The two victims had completed basic training within the past two weeks and were not regular recruiters, said Lt. Col. Thomas F. Artis of the Oklahoma City Recruiting Battalion, which oversees the Little Rock office.

Witnesses told police that a man inside a black vehicle pulled up outside the recruiting center and opened fire about 10:30 a.m. Long fell onto the sidewalk outside the center, while Ezeagwula was able to crawl toward its door.

Muhammad was arrested along an interstate highway moments after the shootings, authorities said.

Police said an assault rifle and other weapons were found in Muhammad's car when he was arrested.

The accused shooter's father, Melvin Bledsoe, hung up on a reporter who called about his son's arrest Monday night.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524833,00.html?test=latestnews

Sigaba

06-03-2009, 12:46

If I had my druthers, criminals who targeted members of the armed services would be charged with treason in addition to the offenses themselves.

The Reaper

06-03-2009, 13:11

How can he explain his crime and motivation to the police, then plead "not guilty"?

Burn in hell, terrorist scum.

TR

Surf n Turf

06-03-2009, 13:41

Farrakhan and the NOI are not even considered Muslim by shia/sunni regardless of sect.
The majority of jailhouse rads are trained in a Saudi Arabian financed form of strict Wahabbi Islam. SA has donated millions of dollars/qurans/teachers to our jail system and we just basically said '''ok'''.

PRB,
I stand corrected.:o This is a concerted effort of Saudi Arabia, not NOI (although, I suspect they are willing accomplices).
Thank you for the clarification :D
SnT

Radical Islam Behind Bars
Islamist prison chaplains face renewed challenge.

"The latest commentary appeared here on September 16, 2007--federal, state, county, and city prison officials have wrestled since the horror of 9/11 with the presence of radical Muslim chaplains in our country's correctional systems. To the shock of most Americans, when they hear about it, missionaries of the ultrafundamentalist Wahhabi sect, financed by Saudi Arabia and supporting terrorism, have a monopoly on Muslim chaplaincies behind bars. Similar patterns of "authorized" prison infiltration by Islamists are visible in Britain, Russia, and other countries.
As thoroughly established in the public record, Saudi-subsidized and Wahhabi-trained chaplains preach extremism, including contempt for Western law, to convicts
The real issue is the power of radical Muslim chaplains and the discrimination against non-Wahhabis they exercise with impunity. Unfortunately, the state of New York has established Wahhabism as "official Islam" for convicts."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Radical%20Islam%20Behind%20Bars.html

Richard

06-03-2009, 13:41

How can he explain his crime and motivation to the police, then plead "not guilty"?

On the advice of his attorney, of course. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

csquare

06-03-2009, 14:12

Why hasn't BH0 or any of his underlings made a comment or say something about this nonsense?
OOOOOHHHHH that's right! He was prepping and is currently touring the Middle East. Wouldn't want to say anything that would offend the host before arriving.
**Making sneezing sound effect of "Bullsh!t"**

Surf n Turf

06-03-2009, 18:00

From STRATFOR– Were FBI /LE told to back off Convert investigations.

However, politics have proved obstructive to all facets of counterterrorism policy. And politics may have been at play in the Muhammad case as well as in other cases involving Black Muslim converts. Several weeks ago, STRATFOR heard from sources that the FBI and other law enforcement organizations had been ordered to “back off” of counterterrorism investigations into the activities of Black Muslim converts. At this point, it is unclear to us if that guidance was given by the White House or the Department of Justice, or if it was promulgated by the agencies themselves, anticipating the wishes of President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder.
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20090603_lone_wolf_lessons

Did White House order FBI to "back off" anti-terror investigations of radicalized Muslim converts?
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/06/red-alert-did-white-house-order-fbi-to.html

SnT

BigJimCalhoun

06-04-2009, 18:33

The O'Rielly Factor mentioned the Stratfor report this evening (6/4/2009). It was just a small blurb related to above and that Stratfor is has been very good in the past. A call from the show's producers to the Justice Dept was answered and the Justice Department denied backing off.

SF-TX

06-05-2009, 07:41

It's the FBI's fault.:rolleyes:

CONWAY, Ark. — The man accused of killing a soldier outside a recruiting center begged for FBI agents to free him from a Yemeni jail where he was "tortured" and "radicalized" by Islamic terrorists, his lawyer told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Lawyer Jim Hensley described Abdulhakim Muhammad as an impressionable youth driven to public service in an impoverished Middle Eastern country. But teachings by "hardened" terrorists in Yemen and experiences with Afghan child refugees missing limbs drove him to become someone his parents didn't recognize, Hensley said.

"Here comes the FBI, who may be able to help this guy or save his life, and then they leave and then he's got to go back in with these hardened terrorists. He's got to survive, how do you live with that?" Hensley said. "He absolutely feels that the FBI and anyone else associated with the United States government left him to the wolves, that's for certain."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525152,00.html

Richard

06-05-2009, 07:59

"He absolutely feels that the FBI and anyone else associated with the United States government left him to the wolves, that's for certain."

Reminds me of the following fables:

One winter a Farmer found a Snake stiff and frozen with cold. He had compassion on it, and taking it up, placed it in his bosom. The Snake was quickly revived by the warmth, and resuming its
natural instincts, bit its benefactor, inflicting on him a mortal wound. "Oh," cried the Farmer with his last breath, "I am rightly served for pitying a scoundrel."

Moral - The greatest kindness will not bind the ungrateful.

A snake, having made his hole close to the porch of a cottage, inflicted a mortal bite on the owner's infant son. Grieving over his loss, the father resolved to kill the Snake. The next day, when it came out of its hole for food, he took up his axe, but by swinging too hastily, missed its head and cut off only the end of its tail. After some time the father, afraid that the snake would bite him also, endeavored to make peace, and placed some bread and salt in the hole. The snake, slightly hissing, said: "There can henceforth be no peace between us; for whenever I see you I shall remember the loss of my tail, and whenever you see me you will be thinking of the death of your son."

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pete

06-06-2009, 15:07

echoes

06-06-2009, 15:23

They had a rally for the murdered Soldier and look who showed up.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/rememberance-rally-for-us-soldier-murdered-by-jihadi-in-arkansas-crashed-by-fanatical-muslim.html

Once again nothing in the MSM.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...al-muslim.html

"Secure Arkansas organized a rally in remembrance of the first terrorist attack since 9/11. Pvt. William Long was killed and Pvt. Quinton I. Ezeagwula was wounded by Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad).

Channel 11 was the only TV crew out there with a camera, and the AR Dem Gazette sent a reporter and a photographer. The event had several speakers who did a wonderful job. Video footage of them will be uploaded soon. However, the most shocking part of the event was when a muslim fanatic crashed the event.

The fanatic drove by and yelled at us, then parked in the parking lot and stood out with a homemade sign yelling anti-American and later anti-Semetic comments. Had this been a ceremony for Tiller, this would have been the top story for both local and national media."

:mad:

Holly

Richard

06-06-2009, 16:32

The squirrels won't be going hungry any time soon because there are plenty of nuts to go around out there. She reminds me - somewhat - of the Christian group out of Kansas who pickets funerals of servicemembers killed in the GWOT.

I haven't heard the pathetic 9-11 was an inside job arguments for quite a while now, but there they are. You should read this piece I posted the other day to kinda understand how this keeps resurfacing - especially in the Muslim world.

Obama Versus Muslim Conspiracy Theories

Conspiracy theories threaten American diplomacy because when Mr. Obama promises X Thursday, a great percentage of Muslims will believe he really intends Y or that some shadowy organization will ensure Z. Every culture exhibits some interest in conspiracy theories (see "The Da Vinci Code"), but they are especially resonant in Muslim contexts, and Western leaders need to find a way to mitigate this problem. The first step is to understand its origins.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23604&highlight=muslims+conspiracy+theories

And so it goes...and I'm headed to a high school graduation to enjoy an evening of success and celebration and the future...and then home for a grilled rib-eye, a ceasar salad, and a nice glass or two of an old vine zinfandel. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pete

06-06-2009, 17:21

.... She reminds me - somewhat - of the Christian group out of Kansas who pickets funerals of servicemembers killed in the GWOT.....

That is not fair to Christians or Muslims.

That whacked out group has nothing to do with Christianity. It's a family operation with an ample supply of lawyers. They happen to make their money by getting people to take a swing at them - then they sue.

There will always be punks looking to take the easy way through life with crime in the US. There will always be the nut cases who hear voices in the wall and then do terrible things. Put all that aside and focus on people who do evil things in the US because of their religion (or because we do evil things to other people) and it's funny how many times lately that Islam pops up.

At what number per given time period will it take for people in the US to say "We have a problem"? Right now the MSM is able to "disconnect the dots" at about once every 6 weeks or so. Will it be when we hit once a month? Once a week? Think anybody will connect the dots when it's once a day or will it then just be "old news, just another shooting"?

Richard

06-06-2009, 19:23

My point - nuts are nuts - no matter what label they choose to wrap their nuttiness in or how we choose to categorize them and their unpredictably predictable behavior.

In a nutshell - IMO - the situation is...complicated...no matter how hard anyone tries to fit it into simplistically neat little niche categories. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pete

06-09-2009, 07:18

"The Masjid Omar Ibn El Khattab."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=32192

".......Muhammad’s lawyer claims that his client was “radicalized” in Yemen, but it is possible, at the very least, that the radicalization came at the Masjid Omar in Columbus, which, Poole notes, has in recent years featured speakers such as Sheikh Khalid Yasin, who has won notoriety for statements such as this one: “There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend” -- which is, of course, a fairly straight rendering of a statement found twice in the Koran. Yasin is an unabashed hardliner, saying: “The Koran gives a very clear position regarding homosexuality, lesbianism and bestiality -- that these are aberrations, they are immoralities and if they are tried, convicted, they are punishable by death.” Yasin has also claimed that Osama bin Laden is a “bogey man,” a “creation ... in order to justify a war they call on terror but is really a terror they have put inside the people. It is a war against Islam.”

Meanwhile, last Tuesday a 20-year-old female student at Ohio State University was waiting for a bus when she was suddenly stabbed in the abdomen with a kitchen knife. According to another young woman at Ohio State, the attacker, Wael W. Kalash, had been yelling at female students in the area for some time, calling them “American sluts.” After he stabbed the student, Kalash fled into a nearby building, where police soon caught up with him.

The building? The Masjid Omar Ibn El Khattab......."

Pete

06-09-2009, 16:26

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525584,00.html

....."Yes, I did tell the police upon my arrest that this was an act of retaliation, and not a reaction on the soldiers personally," Muhammad said. He called it "a act, for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world, and also a retaliation on U.S. military."

In the interview, Muhammad also disputed his lawyer's claim that he had been "radicalized" in a Yemeni prison and said fellow prisoners that some call terrorists were actually "very good Muslim brothers.".....

Remember folks, it's just a law enforcement problem.

echoes

06-09-2009, 16:50

]....."Yes, I did tell the police upon my arrest that this was an act of retaliation, and not a reaction on the soldiers personally," Muhammad said. He called it "a act, for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world, and also a retaliation on U.S. military[/B]."

Can only hope, with all vengence possible, that this scum-scuking oxagen theif is FOUND while behind bars! At this point I hope he is made to repeat night after night, his appologies to the U.S. Armed Forces, and the family members of his victims....:mad:

What a waste of tax-payer dollars to even incarcerate such swine!

Holly

greenberetTFS

06-09-2009, 17:01

Motherfucker just pleaded NOT guilty in court

Also reported that the Soldier killed had just completed Basic training

I whole heartily concur koz.......:mad: I only wish that the first LEO's on the scene didn't take his a*s out....:rolleyes: They are flying the flags at half mast today in all of Ark........:(

GB TFS :munchin

Richard

06-10-2009, 05:42

NPR weighs in on this one - now even the liberals must be aware of the dangers involved with some of these zealots. Will they listen? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

FBI Encountered Accused Ark. Shooter In Yemen
Dina Temple-Raston, NPR, 8 Jun 2009

The suspect in the deadly shooting at a military recruiting center in Arkansas last week, Abdulhakim Muhammad, is the latest in a series of Muslim converts who stand accused of planning or launching violent attacks in the U.S.

His given name was Carlos Bledsoe. He was 23, grew up in Tennessee and converted to Islam in high school. He traveled to Yemen in 2007, and FBI agents first encountered him in a Yemeni prison about a year later. Officials close to the investigation say what they learned about him alarmed them.

Fake Somali Passport

The young American claimed to be in Yemen to study religion, but he was linked to a school there that was well-known for its terrorist ties. He had a fake Somali passport, though he was carrying a perfectly valid American one.

Agents were concerned the Somali passport was a way for Muhammad to travel to places he didn't want U.S. authorities to know about — so when he returned to the U.S. his American passport wouldn't have stamps and visas from countries that bring suspicion.

Muhammad's lawyer in Little Rock, Ark., Jim Hensley, says the second passport wasn't so sinister.

"That Somali passport came into being because, I think he said, they are laying on park benches around Yemen," Hensley told NPR. "Somali passports were easy to get, and the whole reason he needed one was because he had overstayed his visa, he was married and did not want to leave."

Hensley said Muhammad wanted to stay in Yemen with his new wife.

Radicalized In Yemen

The prison interview with Muhammad in Yemen rattled FBI officials enough that they opened a preliminary investigation. It never got much further than that. After he was deported back to the U.S., agents visited him on several occasions, but aside from his suspicious affiliations in Yemen, officials had nothing on him. So there is no indication that last week's events could have been prevented.

That said, FBI officials do think Muhammad was radicalized in Yemen, and conversations Muhammad had with his lawyer seem to bear that out. Hensley says his client saw things in Yemen that upset him — things that changed him. And while Hensley stopped short of providing a motive for the shooting, he did say that Muhammad came back from Yemen very angry at the U.S. military.

Hensley says Muhammad told him he was working with children in Yemen and many of them were refugees from Afghanistan.

"Some of them are missing arms and some of them are terribly disfigured," Hensley says.

Muhammad told his lawyer that he blamed the U.S. military for the children's suffering. Muhammad also said he met Afghan women who claimed to have been raped by U.S. soldiers. This also clearly rankled him, Hensley says.

There is some debate over why, exactly, Muhammad ended up behind bars in Yemen. His parents say he told them that he was in for visa violations. Law enforcement officials said it was more than that but declined to be specific. What is certain is that prison added to the disillusionment Muhammad was already feeling toward the U.S.

"For whatever reason, he winds up in a prison in Yemen around people who certainly don't appreciate America," Hensley says. "And they start telling him, 'Look what you have seen; look what's going on.' And all this stuff weighs heavy on a young man, and he wants to do something."

Acting Alone

Authorities say that something was the shooting outside the recruiting center in Little Rock. Last week, the chief of the Little Rock police department, Stuart Thomas, tried to tamp down speculation that Muhammad was part of something bigger.

"Mr. Muhammad appears to have acted alone," he told reporters. "There doesn't appear to be a wider plot at this point in time."

Hensley says that his client assured him there were no other attacks planned. FBI agents are still combing through Muhammad's past to make sure that is true. Hensley says there are lessons to be taken from the incident.

"If this young man, grown up in middle America, can be turned against his own country, if it happened to this young man, it can happen to any young man," Hensley says. "It can happen to anybody."

This, of course, worries the FBI and is why the investigation is continuing. Agents have questioned elders at a Tennessee mosque Muhammad attended. Agents in Yemen are trying to make sure that Muhammad's radicalization didn't include anyone else who might one day turn up in the U.S. in some violent way.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105128523

Pete

06-16-2009, 12:00

Kristol: Democrats, Republicans, and Jews

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/democrats_republicans_and_jews.asp

The money quote: "......In any case, just to restate: In a survey administered by (apparently) liberal academics, looking at attitudes not towards Israel or Likud but towards Jews per se--Democrats are almost twice as likely to be hostile to Jews than Republicans."

State of the Nation
Anti-Semitism and the economic crisis

http://bostonreview.net/BR34.3/malhotra_margalit.php

Pete

01-22-2010, 04:15

Man Claims Terror Ties in Little Rock Shooting

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/22littlerock.html

"MEMPHIS — A Tennessee man accused of killing a soldier outside a Little Rock, Ark., military recruiting station last year has asked a judge to change his plea to guilty, claiming for the first time that he is affiliated with a Yemen-based affiliate of Al Qaeda................"

Pete

04-16-2011, 07:37

Man Confesses To ‘Jihad Operation' Murder In Nashville

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14441819/man-confesses-to-jihad-operation-murder-in-nashville

"NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A former TSU student on trial for murder in Arkansas said he killed a man in East Nashville in 2006.

Abdulhakim Muhammad is accused of killing one Army soldier and wounding another outside a military recruiting station in 2009. He's now confessed to shooting a Nashville man as part of a "Jihad Operation."

The father of Carlos Bledsoe believes his son became an extremist Muslim during his time in Nashville.

Carlos, who changed his name to Abdulhakim Muhammad, is accused of murdering an army private and wounding another in Arkansas two years ago......"

&

"......While Muhammad did attend the Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Nashville, officials there said he was a normal person, and not a terrorist, as Muhammad's father Melvin Bledsoe claimed during a U.S. congressional hearing earlier this year......"

For some he was a normal person.

Pete

05-11-2011, 16:51

Suspect in recruiting station shooting wants to fire attorney

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/may/06/around-the-region/?partner=yahoo_feeds

LITTLE ROCK -- A former Memphian charged in the shooting death of one soldier and wounding of another outside a Little Rock recruiting station wants to fire one of his attorneys.

Abdulhakim Muhammad, who was once known as Carlos Bledsoe, says in a letter to Pulaski County Circuit Judge Herb Wright that he's firing lead attorney Claiborne Ferguson but wants to keep attorney Patrick Benca. He also says in the two-sentence letter that he'll plead guilty in connection with attacks and threats against jailers and inmates. The letter was filed Monday after his attorneys filed notice of an insanity defense.

Muhammad told The Associated Press the shooting was revenge for American killings of Muslims.

Muhammad told The Associated Press the shooting was revenge for American killings of Muslims.

Pete

06-12-2011, 03:14

Family of Suspect in Arkansas Military Center Shooting Says Gov't Knew He Was Dangerous

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/10/family-suspect-in-arkansas-military-center-shooting-says-government-knew-was/#ixzz1P3EziTfJ

"..............."This is unprecedented. If you have a terrorist in this country that commits a crime and a murder, every other case I can think of it always goes to a federal court. ... This is clearly terrorist activity,” Addicott told Fox News. “The Department of Justice and FBI knew that this guy was a suspected terrorist because he had gone to Yemen, and they had actually intervened to get him released and back into the United States. So it's not like they didn't know who he was and what his proclivity was towards radical jihad.”

As for getting the federal evidence into court, Addicott thinks it’s possible. "They [defense attorneys] are entitled to see all of the information that the government has associated with this person and his crimes. If the judge allowed it and said, ‘Yeah, I think it's relevant,’ then it would come into state court as it would come into a federal court.”

Melvin Bledsoe thinks a state court will treat the case as a drive-by shooting and not terrorism. “So much won’t be shown in this trial, what happened in Yemen or what happened in Nashville.”

Asked to explain why the case was being prosecuted in state court, a Justice Department spokesman issued this statement: "Given that the capital murder case against Carlos Bledsoe, aka Abdulhakim Muhammad, is a matter of pending litigation in Arkansas, we refer you to the prosecutors handing the case in Arkansas for any comments on this matter."

JJ_BPK

06-12-2011, 03:37

Is Holder trying to bury dirty laundry? :confused:

Did the FBI want to whack Carlos, but Holder stopped it?? :confused:

Is this another case of the DoJ bungling the job,, like the "gunwalker" deals at the Tex-Mex boarder?? :confused:

:munchin

Pete

06-22-2011, 05:18

Man accused of killing soldier in AR mocks court

http://www.kait8.com/story/14953919/copy-man-accused-of-killing-soldier-in-ark-mocks-court

"...............In a note from jail filed Monday, Abdulhakim Muhammad lobbed insults at his attorneys, both of whom he has attempted to fire in the past. He called the Pulaski County circuit court judge handling his case a "tyrant" and said that the court has no jurisdiction over him...................."

I guess he does not like our court system.

Pete

07-25-2011, 13:14

Muhammad sentenced to life in Ark. soldier killing

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/07/25/psychiatrists_testify_in_ark_soldier_death_case/

"....................Abdulhakim Muhammad pleaded guilty to capital murder in the middle of his trial Monday. Prosecutors took the death penalty off the table in return for Muhammad's plea.................................."

Wish his victims had the chance of a plea bargain.

rdret1

07-25-2011, 13:41

At least he won't see green grass again.

Dusty

07-25-2011, 14:04

Another recruiter for the religion of peace sent to the Big House.

The Reaper

07-25-2011, 16:45

Give him a cell in the Aryan Nation block.

A life sentence might not be all that long.

TR

rdret1

07-27-2011, 02:03

Give him a cell in the Aryan Nation block.

A life sentence might not be all that long.

TR

Just a life sentence may not be that long. What gets this numbskull is :

without parole for capital murder, with 11 more life sentences for the remaining charges against him plus an additional 180 years in prison.

That pretty much assures he expires behind bars.

Dusty

07-27-2011, 12:11

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/22/justice-to-probe-farrakhan-hate-sermons-available-in-prisons

Justice to Probe Farrakhan Hate Sermons Available in Prisons
By Paul Bedard

The Justice Department's Bureau of Prisons is probing so-called "hate sermons" from Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, available to most federal inmates, to see if they radicalize prisoners or even turn them into terrorists.

In a letter to Rep. Frank Wolf, who first raised the issue, Bureau of Prisons Acting Director Thomas Kane said he would review the most sensational sermons in the prison catalog such as "Bible, Truth or Altered by the White Man" and another suggesting that 9/11 was a cover to hide oil profits to former Vice President Dick Cheney.

What's more, Kane said in the letter, he has already added a class on chapel security to the training for prison chaplains. "Bureau staff will continue to review all chapel library materials to ensure that resources comply with current law and policy," he said.

Wolf and Rep. Peter King had raised red flags over the materials available to prisoners, even convicted terrorists, in prison chapels.

In a statement to Whispers, he said, "I appreciate the Bureau of Prisons's prompt response and willingness to review these extremist materials. Radical and anti-American texts have no place in American prisons. As chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that funds the Bureau of Prisons, I committed to ensuring that our nation's prisons are a place of rehabilitation not radicalization."

Whispers first reported Wolf's concerns.

In one of the sermon videos from Farrakhan, the radical minister states, "I hasten to tell you that the precious lives that were lost in the World Trade Center was a cover, a cover for a war that had been planned to bring a pipeline through Afghanistan to bring oil from that region, oil owned by Unocal, of which Dick Cheney is a stock holder."

Among the Nation of Islam video titles offered to inmates are "Conspiracy of the International Bankers," "Conspiracy of the U.S. Government," "Controversy with Jews," and "Which One Will You Choose, the Flag of Islam or the Flag of America?"Kane wrote Wolf, "We appreciate the great importance of controlling and preventing the recruitment of inmates into radical behavior and extremist ideologies."