View Full Version : Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign
BMT (RIP)
05-30-2009, 18:53
http://www.sj-r.com:80/opinions/x124603932/Ted-Rall-It-s-increasingly-evident-that-Obama-should-resign
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http://www.sj-r.com:80/opinions/x124603932/Ted-Rall-It-s-increasingly-evident-that-Obama-should-resign
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No joy! :confused:
Pat
rubberneck
05-31-2009, 12:49
As much as I can't stand him Obama shouldn't resign and Ted Rall is still a mouth breathing moron.
I don't like him either, but that's the $100 question: "Who takes his place?" The demise of this country is well under way, and is all falling into place, just like ALL the intelligent and seasoned experts have predicted. GM is on the brink of going bankrupt and all the financial intstitutions are being FORCED to accept the G's assistance financially, (even those who are still independent and financially stable). It has been said that the banks will be owned federally, (almost there), and that 30% of the auto industry will be federally controlled to start. This is all happening right in front of OUR eyes, and what are we doing to stop it?!
I fear that anyone in the POTUS' power position will have the same agenda. We are WAY beyond Rep. Dem. wars here. The stage has been set and it's US against THEM, or we will be enslaved citizens and soon.
Its not gonna happen, it is happening right now! Just like the guns....:mad:
This is all happening right in front of OUR eyes, and what are we doing to stop it?!
I appreciate the sentiment, but I am most tired of the rhetoric. Just exactly what would you suggest we do?
I have:
1. Gone to a tea party to vocalize my disatisfaction and been mocked by the POTUS and everyone beneath him.
2. Been labelled a friggin' right wing extremist by the DHS because I'm a vet, support the Second Amendment, supported Ron Paul, and believe the Book of Revelation is authentic prophecy.
3. Had my intelligence insulted by each of my elected representatives with their form letters that essentially tell me I have no clue what's good for me or this nation.
4. Voted, only to have my vote negated by organizations like ACORN through voter fraud.
So, if you've got some reasonable and viable solution to the fact half this nation would rather be red than suffer a bit of hardship, then I'm all eyes and ears. Otherwise, I'll just continue to view that half of this nation as my sworn enemy and continue to prepare accordingly.
IMO - with all that has been going on, what we have here is another of the historically on-going opportunities for us Americans to excel. ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Puertoland
06-01-2009, 15:25
IMO - with all that has been going on, what we have here is another of the historically on-going opportunities for us Americans to excel. ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Love reading those posts, Sir. I like to think that, like in the past, true American heroes will rise from what people said was our downfall. This is just our opportunity :lifter.
So, if you've got some reasonable and viable solution to the fact half this nation would rather be red than suffer a bit of hardship, then I'm all eyes and ears. Otherwise, I'll just continue to view that half of this nation as my sworn enemy and continue to prepare accordingly.
It can be done, actually. Take a hard, critical look at ACORN. Notice how they, and others like them, have accomplished a shift of American culture and values over the course of (roughly) 50 years.
The first problem, perhaps, is that most of us are not taught anything about how policy is actually made. We vote, maybe write a letter to a congress-critter, or something along that line. Notice that is all we are ever taught to do. But (rhetorical question) - how does a legislative action start? What sparks it and moves it along? Who pulls the strings to make such things happen - and how do they pull them?
Some years ago, I read a most interesting introduction to the problem. Really, it's more of a how-to manual than anything else. It's easy to read, clear - and also considered a worthwhile text in the policy arena.
Start with: Policy Studies for Educational Leaders: An Introduction (2nd Edition) (Hardcover) by Frances C. Fowler. The book is expensive, although used copies can be had for a reasonable price (See Amazon). Or, there is the library.
Keep in mind what ACORN and others did. It did not involve tea parties, letters, or merely voting. To change the outcome, we may need to learn their tactics and adapt them to our needs.
To change the outcome, we may need to learn their tactics and adapt them to our needs.
And remember - there's alway's Article .303. ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
incarcerated
06-01-2009, 23:50
It can be done, actually. Take a hard, critical look at ACORN. Notice how they, and others like them, have accomplished a shift of American culture and values over the course of (roughly) 50 years....
Keep in mind what ACORN and others did. It did not involve tea parties, letters, or merely voting. To change the outcome, we may need to learn their tactics and adapt them to our needs.
Very well put.
These are now ours:
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20112
[QUOTE=KClapp;267589]I appreciate the sentiment, but I am most tired of the rhetoric. Just exactly what would you suggest we do?
My opinion also contains some level of frustration. I wish I had the answers, (and don't pretend to). I try to remain VERY aware of what is transpiring out there, and with my limited knowledge try to inform others, and promote thinking for ourselves and reading between lines.
I, like you have also followed the same path in trying to make a difference.
Start with: Policy Studies for Educational Leaders: An Introduction (2nd Edition) (Hardcover) by Frances C. Fowler. The book is expensive, although used copies can be had for a reasonable price (See Amazon). Or, there is the library.
I will look into that.
Keep in mind what ACORN and others did. It did not involve tea parties, letters, or merely voting. To change the outcome, we may need to learn their tactics and adapt them to our needs.
The enemy has no honor or integrity and they are not respectors of the law. It is not clear how I can adapt their tactics and maintain my honor, integrity, and respect for the law.
Evidence is mounting that ACORN may be more akin to organized crime than it is to community activism. If I've got to sacrifice what means most to me, just to keep this a bloodless war, then I prefer to gird my loins and let the blood flow.
ETA: ACORN and other such organizations have used Saul Alinsky's work as their guide. Good ol' Saul is a disciple of Marx. Adopting or adapting Marxist ideology to address the issues in this nation is not viable for me. I learned to detest Marxism. I was trained to shoot them in the face. There is no love lost between them and I. I do not see a clear way to reverse the indoctrination into the Marxist worldview, which has infected this nation, without just cutting out the cancer. But then, I'm a pretty simple fellow. Maybe I don't understand all the nuances.
KClapp, it is worthwhile (IMO) to study the other side's tactics even if one does not replicate them.
That said, please consider the following LINK (http://www.gregpalast.com/grand-theft-auto-how-stevie-the-rat-bankrupted-gm/). Notice the issues of law, and the alleged systemic violation of established laws.
The following is entirely rhetorical, and it is probably best to avoid public responses. Perhaps deep (and very private) reflection would be appropriate.
In deciding whether one wishes to let blood flow, one must consider the law, the implications of letting or causing blood to flow, the potential consequences, and the potential rewards. Notice that the left often uses "civil disobedience", which implies minor violations of the law. It appears these tactics have been successful. Therefore, anyone considering their actions might do well to consider whether minor violations of the law are justified, and if so, when. It might also be worthwhile to balance such behavior against more substantial violations.
Pointedly, I am not (and do not) advocate any illicit acts. I am merely suggesting contemplation of an ethical situation.
I would also add that (in my opinion) others should be cautious about what they say on the internet. Things tend to persist for a long time, and might show up in unexpected and undesired ways. Which is why I would never, ever advocate violating any laws. ;)
KClapp, it is worthwhile (IMO) to study the other side's tactics even if one does not replicate them.
Roger that!
That said, please consider the following LINK (http://www.gregpalast.com/grand-theft-auto-how-stevie-the-rat-bankrupted-gm/). Notice the issues of law, and the alleged systemic violation of established laws.
Proof positive that if there is no enforcement, a law is meaningless.
I would also add that (in my opinion) others should be cautious about what they say on the internet. Things tend to persist for a long time, and might show up in unexpected and undesired ways. Which is why I would never, ever advocate violating any laws.
Understood. I should be more careful with my use of metaphors. :D
IMO - with all that has been going on, what we have here is another of the historically on-going opportunities for us Americans to excel. ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchinIt didn't pertain to this topic however, I was just telling some folks....
"It sucks but keep at it! Use the weak to make you strong...":cool:
Stay safe.
It didn't pertain to this topic however, I was just telling some folks..."It sucks but keep at it! Use the weak to make you strong..."
Exactly. Yesterday was the last easy day - are you strong enough for tomorrow? ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin