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greenberetTFS
05-19-2009, 10:22
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Better call your representatives guys- This is not good..........

THE NATIONAL LAW JOURNAL
Wednesday, January 28,2009

Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution (Michele Chang)
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with
orders that the White House is contemplating. According to
sources at the Pentagon,including all branches of the armed forces, the
Obama Administration may Break with a centuries-old tradition..:mad:

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have
soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the
President,and no longer to the Constitution.
"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the
spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil
War,did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always
been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department
was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has
already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops
from Iraq But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.
"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official
policy."the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."................

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular
distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale
for the change was made more clear. "The President feels that the military
has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism,
racism,and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."
"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues."But
those that would be most against it are those looking either for
attention or control.".............

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely
that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to
dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight.
The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the
oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.

WHAT'S NEXT...IS HE GOING TO ASK THE ALLEGIANCE OF ALL AMERICAN
CITIZENS & SET HIMSELF UP AS GOD TO BE WORSHIPPED??? :rolleyes:

IF YOU'RE AS OUTRAGED BY THIS AS I AM...PASS IT ON SO OTHERS AND CALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. THIS SNEAKY FRAUD BEHIND CLOSED DOORS DESERVES TO EXPOSED! :mad:

GB TFS :munchin

SF0
05-19-2009, 10:36
"We expect a lot of flak over this," - Ya think? :rolleyes:

"......do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the President the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic......"

The Reaper
05-19-2009, 10:45
Not true.

A political satire commentary.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/oath.asp

You tinfoil hat guys really should learn to check Snopes first. There is enough shady dealing being done, we don't need to get excited and write our Congresscritters over some satire piece.

TR

SF_BHT
05-19-2009, 10:50
Hold your horses ALL

This article is, in fact, a satire piece. Not a work in progress.....
Do a little GOFO on "military to pledge oath to obama not constitution"

You will find Snopes and many other things that deny this......:munchin

Puertoland
05-19-2009, 10:51
Reaper beat me to it, this was something passed through a lot of chain emails about a month or so after Obama was inaugurated, and also proven to be false.

greenberetTFS
05-19-2009, 10:57
Not true.

A political satire commentary.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/oath.asp

You tinfoil hat guys really should learn to check Snopes first. There is enough shady dealing being done, we don't need to get excited and write our Congresscritters over some satire piece.

TR

TR,

I did check snopes,but I didn't believe them......:confused: Since when are they the final word? :( Remove it if you think it's not true.........:mad: Apparently you have more faith in BHO not doing something like this than I do......:mad:

GB TFS

The Reaper
05-19-2009, 11:09
Tell you what, if it happens here on Ft. Bragg, you will be the first one I call to report it to.

In the meanwhile, please look up "The National Law Review" and show me where they ever published such an article.

Reread the Snopes piece. All of it. Then click on the link to jumpinginpools, and look at the original article, as well as some others you might find serious.

This is probably a good way to wind up on your Congressman's list of people to ignore. Then, when a serious issue arises, your comments are disregarded.

Believe whatever you want to. I cannot change that. But we do not want to let this site, and our members, become a source of bad info.

Please do your homework before posting info from elsewhere.

TR

Pete
05-19-2009, 11:15
And also search is our friend here

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21599&highlight=Military+Oath

greenberetTFS
05-19-2009, 11:15
Tell you what, if it happens here on Ft. Bragg, you will be the first one I call to report it to.

In the meanwhile, please look up "The National Law Review" and show me where they ever published such an article.

Reread the Snopes piece. All of it. Then click on the link to jumpinginpools, and look at the original article, as well as some others you might find serious.

This is probably a good way to wind up on your Congressman's list of people to ignore. Then, when a serious issue arises, your comments are disregarded.

Believe whatever you want to. I cannot change that. But we do not want to let this site, and our members, become a source of bad info.

Please do your homework before posting info from elsewhere.

TR

"Fine" TR, Message is loud and clear................:mad:

Tin-foil hat guy.

6.8SPC_DUMP
05-19-2009, 11:23
I signed up to "jumping in to pools" and Joseph Farrah on worldnetdaily.com was the source. Could very well be part of the spoof to source him....

But here's the article Farrah wrote:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84807

greenberetTFS
05-19-2009, 11:32
And also search is our friend here

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21599&highlight=Military+Oath

Pete,

My disgust for BHO did have a factor in my post. :( I should have checked the search button you've shown........:rolleyes: I was so PO when I read it........:mad: My mistake,I screwed up.......TR is right........

GB TFS :munchin

ZonieDiver
05-19-2009, 15:49
Glad to hear it is a tin hat theory. Now, about those space ships in area 51 from 1947............ ;)

They were moved to Wright-Patterson AFB in '50. Paperwork got lost in transit and they were declared "surplus" in '53. Sold as scrap to a metals dealer in Japan in '54. Lost track of it after that... paper trail went cold. I suspect foul play...:D

doctom54
05-19-2009, 17:13
They were moved to Wright-Patterson AFB in '50. Paperwork got lost in transit and they were declared "surplus" in '53. Sold as scrap to a metals dealer in Japan in '54. Lost track of it after that... paper trail went cold. I suspect foul play...:D

Pretty good :)

AngelsSix
05-19-2009, 18:14
They were moved to Wright-Patterson AFB in '50. Paperwork got lost in transit and they were declared "surplus" in '53. Sold as scrap to a metals dealer in Japan in '54. Lost track of it after that... paper trail went cold. I suspect foul play...:D

That's right, and all of us Zoomies are stickin' to that story!! :p:D